December Steam Hardware Survey

4800s at 7.09% and GTX 260/280 at 3.17%, wow ATI really did manage to steal some share this round. Good for them.

8800s being on top makes sense but wtf @ so many 8600s.
 
ihira said:
4800s at 7.09% and GTX 260/280 at 3.17%, wow ATI really did manage to steal some share this round. Good for them.

8800s being on top makes sense but wtf @ so many 8600s.
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The total numbers is actually 1.55% for the GTX 260/280 and 3.46% for the ATI 4800's. I'd say the low price point of the 4850 helped ATI's numbers a lot for the 4800 series.
 
Actually to be equal, since the "4800 series" includes the 4850, 4870, and 4870x2, you'd need to include the 9800, GTX260, and GTX280. Counting only the GTX 2xx cards is not really right because you're comparing the two high end cards to ATI's two high and 1 mainstream cards. So it's 2 vs. 3, and it just so happens that the one card left out for NVIDIA by your count is the largest bulk of sales.

Now even with the 9800 added in, this is still not quite right because the 9800 will include both 9800GTX's and 9800GT's. But if you look at it with the 9800's, NVIDIA is still in the lead:

4800 series = 3.46% of total GPUs
9800, GTX260, GTX280 = 4.51% of total GPUs

Some of those are 9800GT's which don't count, so it's probably much closer to about equal.
 
BlueStorm said:
Actually to be equal, since the "4800 series" includes the 4850, 4870, and 4870x2, you'd need to include the 9800, GTX260, and GTX280. Counting only the GTX 2xx cards is not really right because you're comparing the two high end cards to ATI's two high and 1 mainstream cards. So it's 2 vs. 3, and it just so happens that the one card left out for NVIDIA by your count is the largest bulk of sales.

Now even with the 9800 added in, this is still not quite right because the 9800 will include both 9800GTX's and 9800GT's. But if you look at it with the 9800's, NVIDIA is still in the lead:

4800 series = 3.46% of total GPUs
9800, GTX260, GTX280 = 4.51% of total GPUs

Some of those are 9800GT's which don't count, so it's probably much closer to about equal.
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I think you count cards that are in the same generation. The 9800 GTXs are from the previous generation based on the G92, and not the GTX200 series.
 
Pantalaimon said:
I think you count cards that are in the same generation. The 9800 GTXs are from the previous generation based on the G92, and not the GTX200 series.
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No, because the GTX260 and 280 don't sell against the 4850 and 4870. Comparing generations is a bit of a false comparison, since they don't sell at the same price points (because 280 is unchallenged at it's price/performance point).

The higher something is priced the fewer they sell of them, and as a result GTX280 sales pale in comparison to 9800GTX sales the same way 4870 and x2 sales pale in comparison to 4850 sales.

In the ATI number they are including the card in the largest selling price point, the 4850

In the NV number they are not including that at all, hence the seemingly very low percentages for GTX 2xx cards. You'd see the same thing on 4870 and x2 if they broke it down individually.

Generation doesn't matter if it's still a competitive part that is still selling.
 
What does the 260 sell against if not the 4870?

I get what you are saying and you are right, but it goes roughly 4850/9800, 4870/260, 4870x2/280.
 
necrophile said:
What does the 260 sell against if not the 4870?

I get what you are saying and you are right, but it goes roughly 4850/9800, 4870/260, 4870x2/280.
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Yes it does sell against 4870.. I don't think I ever said otherwise. I just meant that the GTX260 and GTX280 don't sell against the 4850 and 4870, respectively in that order (I'm effectively ignoring the 4870x2 because it's probably so few of the 4800 series numbers that it's insignificant).

The 4870x2 and GTX280 aren't really comparable either because they offer different performance and different price points. (very different prices).

So the bottom line is Valve needs to do a better job of making the results more granular instead of lumping shit together :)
 
BlueStorm said:
Yes it does sell against 4870.. I don't think I ever said otherwise. I just meant that the GTX260 and GTX280 don't sell against the 4850 and 4870, respectively in that order (I'm effectively ignoring the 4870x2 because it's probably so few of the 4800 series numbers that it's insignificant).

The 4870x2 and GTX280 aren't really comparable either because they offer different performance and different price points. (very different prices).

So the bottom line is Valve needs to do a better job of making the results more granular instead of lumping shit together :)
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You'd do that if you want to see the sales per price / performance point for each company. Most are on the other hand might be more interested in looking at how the new generations from AMD and NVIDIA are selling.
 
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