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I pirate movies but also go to theaters at least twice a week and buy a lot of Blu-rays. What now.
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I don't care what any of your opinions are. I am going to pirate whatever I want whenever I want until there is a legal way to get it that is nearly just as convenient. End of story.
Ahhhh, nothing like watching a successful troll for piracy apologists.
There's no good excuse for it. Every excuse comes down to "I want."
That's pretty amusing after your excuses.Welcome to the real world.
That's pretty amusing after your excuses.
"Grrrr. Bankers are rich and mean, so I'm gonna download a movie to stick it to them!"
Hilarious.
Wrong again! I don't give two shits if people illegally download content for free. The only time I find you and your ilk irritating is when you attempt to ascribe some noble motivation or reasonable excuse to the activity. Isn't "I want something and I don't want to pay for it" all the justification pirates need?Not sure why as the whole damn system is corrupted.. and yet you want to cry about people downloading shitty movies. Laugh at yourself.
Wrong again! I don't give two shits if people illegally download content for free. The only time I find you and your ilk irritating is when you attempt to ascribe some noble motivation or reasonable excuse to the activity. Isn't "I want something and I don't want to pay for it" all the justification pirates need?
Wrong again! I don't give two shits if people illegally download content for free.
There's no good excuse for it. Every excuse comes down to "I want."
Of course, I know why you and yours make excuses. It's the same reason people come up with lame excuses for anything they do: Because you know you're wrong.
So you've decided that the way to address the problems you see in the world is to act like everyone else on top in the world?
Well, I'm sure it's fun but I don't think Gandhi would approve.
Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony.
Mahatma Gandhi
There is a higher court than courts of justice and that is the court of conscience. It supercedes all other courts.
Mahatma Gandhi
Well the rich and the politicians do whatever the hell they want and the only people told to bind themselves to moral codes are the middle class and the poor.So you've decided that the way to address the problems you see in the world is to act like a petulant child? Well, I'm sure it's fun but I don't think Gandhi would approve.
No it wouldn't, economic inequality is getting higher and people like watching movies, the end.No, wrong again. If they actually listened and cared about what the consumer thought piracy would go away as fast as it came.
No it wouldn't, economic inequality is getting higher and people like watching movies, the end.
Someone needs to look up the definition of pedantry and semantics.Someone needs to look up the definition of steal.
Actually, what's silly is when people confuse pedantically fixating on semantics for a decent argument.It is NOT stealing, it is copyright infringement. Whether someone thinks copyright infringement is wrong or not is a different argument, but at least use the correct term. Otherwise your argument looks silly.
Yes, they are "depriving someone of their things."Most important distinction is that people who "pirate" aren't actually depriving someone of their things.
Hey. There are rich people in the world, so it makes sense that people violate copyright law.But again, certain types of people don't want to hear or believe that. Lest they feel compelled to stop getting things they want right now, and for free.
Yes, they are "depriving someone of their things."
The ability to derive benefit from the fruits of one's labor is a fundamental right. A pirate is not only depriving the artists/creators/communities of the fruits of their labor but also undermining the very system that allows those artists/creators/communities to create their art/products in the first place.
But again, certain types of people don't want to hear or believe that. Lest they feel compelled to stop getting things they want right now, and for free.
Hey. There are rich people in the world, so it makes sense that people violate copyright law.
Yes, they are "depriving someone of their things."
A pirate is not only depriving the artists/creators/communities of the fruits of their labor but alsoundermining the very system that allows those artists/creators/communities to create their art/products in the first place.
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1. Again, can't stress this enough, I'm only arguing with people who make lame excuses to justify their thievery. I don't care if pirates ever get punished in any way (and BTW, there are still some things I pirate myself - *shock*).Corporations: Lets dump toxic waste that would cost billions to dispose of properly into the ocean and just pay the fifty million dollar fine for doing it.
People: All the good jobs are leaving the country. I work at a minimum wage job, let me download 'Frozen" so my kids can see it as we can't aford the theater prices.
You: Kill the movie pirates.
lol
While this is arguably true, it's also entirely irrelevant to the topic. Government confiscation of your money is done at the point of a gun (in the end). Last time I checked, consuming popular media and culture created by ever-despised corporations wasn't compulsory.I'm being deprived of the fruits of my labors too and so are most poor and middle class Americans. By paying upwards of half my income in some form of taxes, and, it just goes to a government that wastes it on bombing the rest of the world and giving their other rich friends no bid contracts (corporate welfare).
I'm pretty sure people are also out there somewhere talking about Star Wars. Better go put a stop to that as well.Again, lets all sit around a campfire crying about piracy when the WHOLE fucking system is corrupted.
There are cost-effective ways of consuming that media. Netflix, a $3 rental on iTunes, Amazon or even Amazon Prime. Oh, but by all means, while launching your revolution, let's pretend that we all have a constitutionally protected right to cheap movie theater seats while going all Tea Party (with whom I have no problem) on the System.Yes, take and take and take from the middle class and poor and then when they can't afford to take the entire family to the theaters and buy their children $9-$10 tickets, $10 bags of popcorn, and $8 sodas... then sue them for stealing a shitty movie that still made tens/hundreds of millions at the box office. Can't win for losing with you people.
Excuses run the world. You don't have to accept them. It's not illegal to lie either.I have a feeling that a certain type of person will justify pretty much everything they do because they're just so very angry at the system.
It's like that classic Forrest Gump moment right after Jenny's boyfriend strikes her: "I'm sorry babe. You know I'd never hurt you. It's just this war and that lying sunnuvabitch Johnson!"
Your politics, however noble you might consider them, doesn't make your illegal/immoral/questionable actions any less illegal/immoral/questionable. It just allows you to sleep at night by giving you a convenient rationale for your actions . . . so long as it is never put under any amount of real scrutiny.
"You know I'd never take anything that didn't belong to me. I'm honest! It's just this damn income inequality and those lying bankers and CEOs
That reminds me of something else that makes this particular piracy rationale so dumb. At least Robin Hood was stealing directly from the aristocrats - specifically, whatever fancy stuff and cash they had on them as they traveled the countryside.But, that would make Robin Hood the bad guy
"You know I'd never steal. It's just this damn income inequality!"
That reminds me of something else that makes this particular piracy rationale so dumb. At least Robin Hood was stealing directly from the aristocrats - specifically, whatever fancy stuff and cash they had on them as they traveled the countryside.
Copyright violations like this, when they happen in lieu of paying for them legally (yes, I know it's not a 1:1 relationship, but we're talking about the moronic notion that it's some sort of protest....snip garbage
But, that would make Robin Hood the bad guy
"You know I'd never steal. It's just this damn income inequality!"
Which made me start thinking religion is a tool the powerful use to keep the masses in check and prevent them from rising up against the tyrants that run our lives.
Then Jesus said to them, "Give back to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." - Mark 12:17