DDR2 Price - Insane

Welcome Kirkov.

Yes, a lot of us know about the insane price of DDR2. This can be attributed to the fact that there is no demand for DDR2 modules since there are no motherboards with DDR2 support on the market yet. I'm sure that when Grantsdale chipsets come out and DDR2 support starts, the modules will fall in price when they're being mass produced.
 
Such is the price of exclusivity.

Is there a chipset to pair it with? Then don't worry. There WILL be a price premium, but $900? I hope you didn't think that will be the going rate.
 
I doubt that anyone will be able to buy DDR2 anywhere near the price that DDR is at this year. Thats part of the reason why i went ahead and built another high end P4 rig with DDR instead of waiting on the Grantsdale boards. Maybe by the end of the year or early next, prices will be down some and the kinks will be worked out of the newcoming hardware thats going to flood the market especially from Intel this year.
 
And apparently, even the new mobos that will support DDR2 will still have DDR1 DIMM slots.
 
DD2 will be great, but again more new hardware that no software will demand for awhile.
 
Originally posted by BillLeeLee
And apparently, even the new mobos that will support DDR2 will still have DDR1 DIMM slots.
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Grantsdale will come in both DDR and DDR2 flavors but Alderwood will be completely DDR2.
 
Originally posted by burningrave101
Grantsdale will come in both DDR and DDR2 flavors but Alderwood will be completely DDR2.
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And that is what will alienate Alderwood from the majority of us.
 
I can see people jumping all over DDR2 :rolleyes:

DDR2 isn't going to give huge performance unless its over 667 mhz other wise 566 ddr2 is like high performance pc4400 ram.
On top of that ddr 566 isn't even gone be availbale most likely this year.
 
Originally posted by Wrench00
I can see people jumping all over DDR2 :rolleyes:

DDR2 isn't going to give huge performance unless its over 667 mhz other wise 566 ddr2 is like high performance pc4400 ram.
On top of that ddr 566 isn't even gone be availbale most likely this year.
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DDR2 is for the future when they raise the FSB again. Right now with 800MHz FSB Prescotts you dont need anything more then DDR400. When they raise it to 1066MHz on the Teja's then that will change.
 
DDR2 will matter, oh say the end of the year or next year I think. Until then it will continue to be way overpriced. :eek:

But I guess i'm special, I have DDR 2 on my video card (and I'm sure some of you do too). :rolleyes:
 
i would not start to even think up upgrading until the 2nd or 3rd gen of DDR2 modules and boards start showing up....DDR itself has only really just come of age with the high FSB's and dual channel systems that we are now seeing....
 
i was just thinking my vid card is only place faster DDR is needed. and with $900 for a 512 stick the prices will have to fall ALOT in the coming year..... i too and looking at my next whole system upgrade to be next spring/summer
 
Originally posted by burningrave101
DDR2 is for the future when they raise the FSB again. Right now with 800MHz FSB Prescotts you dont need anything more then DDR400. When they raise it to 1066MHz on the Teja's then that will change.
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We already have 533 mhz DDR, it's called PC4200. I'd say until something can do 300 mhz reliably, most people won't be taking to DDR-II unless it completely forces DDR out of the market.
 
remember when the Athlon 1Ghz was $999...well we gotta start with "insane prices" before we get to "what a steal!"...right? ;)

...its funny how people still seem to get *shocked* that the latest and greatest demand premium prices.
 
yeah, upgrading won't be an issue for me until some *normal everyday* software can use it...i'm thinking at some point this will definitely be standard though.
 
Intel likes to jump the gun on memory, rdram comes to mind. Super fast but super expensive at the time. They eventually wisened up to ddr. I dont think we're going to need ddr2 for awhile. And if AMD isnt to excited, then neither am i, because im now an amd drone. Thank you.
 
dont rule out that intel is making a whole slew of changes this year... more premiums, no performance gains, and buggy early adopted technology...

stick to the mobile 2400+'s and the 2.4c's :p
 
Intel changes sockets and chipsets and cores more frequently than anyone else.
Not that tech moving forward is a bad thing, but you can go to fast.
 
Originally posted by Wixard
Intel likes to jump the gun on memory, rdram comes to mind. Super fast but super expensive at the time. They eventually wisened up to ddr. I dont think we're going to need ddr2 for awhile. And if AMD isnt to excited, then neither am i, because im now an amd drone. Thank you.
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We will have to have it towards the end of the year and the start of 2005 when Intel releases their Teja cores on the desktop. They have a 1066MHz FSB and normal DDR wont be fast enough. Sure we have DDR533 out now but most memory cannot run at those speeds error free. Plus the fact if you have a processor that needs those speeds by default, you might as well forget overclocking the processor in any 1:1 configuration. Also the timings are horrible on DDR533. DDR2 is suppost to have bad timings also but i think they will adjust that as time goes on. DDR was the same way when it first released.

Intel changes sockets and chipsets and cores more frequently than anyone else.
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And AMD doesn't? Lets take a quick overview of 2003 for example. Intel is on socket 478. Celerons are on socket 478. Pentium 4 Northwoods are on socket 478. Pentium 4 Extreme Edition is on socket 478. And the first releases of Prescott were on socket 478.

Now lets look at AMD. Athlon XP's were on socket A (462). Athlon A64's are on socket 754. Athlon FX-51 is on socket 940. AMD is moving the A64's and FX processors to socket 939. AMD is continueing with their socket 754 line also and using it for non-64 bit Athlon XP's.

Intel is making one full move to LGA 775 in order to supply the power needed to these new processors coming out. LGA 775 will most likely open the door to 64-bit desktop processors from Intel after its release because socket 478 was more then likely unable to provide the power needed to unlock the extensions if they are in Prescott already.
 
A Corsair XMS2 4300 DDR2, 512MB PC4300 stick costs what would be equal to like $354 or some such over here, don't see what you guys are yapping about. Though 1gig no-name ddr2 costs $1000.:rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by burningrave101
Sure we have DDR533 out now but most memory cannot run at those speeds error free. Plus the fact if you have a processor that needs those speeds by default, you might as well forget overclocking the processor in any 1:1 configuration. Also the timings are horrible on DDR533. DDR2 is suppost to have bad timings also but i think they will adjust that as time goes on. DDR was the same way when it first released.
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And how do you come to that conclusion? Define error, and define how you came to the conclusion of "most," thank you.

"You might as well forget overclocking the processor in any 1:1 configuration." I do seem to remember Overclockers.com making that same claim prior to the release of Northwood 'C'. How wrong they were...

Bad timings on DDR533? The average appears to be 3-4-4-8, according to this article:

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=934

According to AnandTech, the average timings for the first DDR-II will be 4-4-4:

http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1977

So I think most people will take the DDR533 RIGHT NOW, since that's what matters NOW. If DDR533 is cheaper and more readily available, it's the better option, until you demonstrate that it's error-prone or whatever.
And AMD doesn't? ...
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It always goes back to Intel vs. AMD, doesn't it? Couldn't you just let that statement go, for the sake of the thread and thread starter?
 
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