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Data backup w/ drobo?

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ea216363

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Any happy/not so happy drobo users here on the forums?
ok im thinking a little out loud but would it be possible that in a drobo 4 bay that 4 drives inside could all fail and ur SOL?
at 3+ bills the drobo isnt exactly the cheapest option but it seems like a more safe one that just a quad bay imitation...

ive been having a paranoid feeling about my data lately since my HDD has been slowly but surely filling up fast with all the DSLR pics and random things getting saved... im trying to find a way to have peace of mind that my stuff backed up will be just exactly that: BACKED UP...

an external hard drive to me seems kind of 50/50 bc at anytime it could die and thats the end of that... the drobo from afar looks like it makes it to where that wouldnt happen considering if you have multiple drives loaded up into there...

im not into the whole online or NAS thing (although i am a bit intrigued by the likes of the tonidoplug/pogoplug options)

idk guys just enlighten me bc like they all say, hard drives can and will fail at any time...
 
The drobo looks cool, but why are you opposed to online? Kills two birds with one stone - backed up and offsite. I love carbonite.com.
 
idk there something with privacy for having things posted online..hackers this and that... i mean obviously if a hacker wanted to they could make their way through one's wireless router and into a computer but realistically to me it feels safer to have it safeguarded offline...

although i wouldnt be opposed to a drobo + pogoplug/tonidoplug setup if i have the inclination to do so (tonidoplugs are sold out for the time being on their site)...
 
To address security concerns, I use TrueCrypt to create an encrypted disk (as a file) that I store secure information in. Then I backup the TrueCrypt file with carbonite.

drobo looks cool, but $300 is 5 years of carbonite.
 
Not only that, but Drobo uses a proprietary format that prevents you from just popping the drives into another system if something goes wrong. Once the warranty runs out (1 year, i believe), your only option in the event of a system failure is to buy a new Drobo. That sort of lock in is a dealbreaker for most people that frequent this forum.

I've never owned one, but there are countless first hand accounts all over the web, so do a little research and see for yourself. Here's one I found that goes into pretty good detail:
http://www.ianaleksanderadams.com/blog/dont-get-a-drobo-build-a-server/

You should take a closer look at the two things you seem to be scared of--nas and online backup--because they are perfect for what you want to do. All of the well known online backup services encrypt your data before it is uploaded to their servers. Even the service providers can't access it. If the evil hackerz broke into their servers and stole your data, they wouldn't be able to unencrypt it because the key is on your computer. If you are still paranoid, look into Crashplan (I use it). Crashplan lets you backup your encrypted data to your friends' computers instead of to their central servers (although, that is an option, too).

One last thing. You said that you aren't interested in a nas solution, but that you are willing to try a pogoplug with a hard drive attached. You should understand that a pogoplug is just a small computer and that when you attach a hard drive and make it available over your network, what you have is a nas. They are one in the same. Maybe you have a misconception about what network attached storage that we should clear up first.

an external hard drive to me seems kind of 50/50 bc at anytime it could die and thats the end of that... the drobo from afar looks like it makes it to where that wouldnt happen considering if you have multiple drives loaded up into there...
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If your backup drive dies, your data is still safe on your system. If you are worried about having your main drive and your backup drive die at the same time (house fire, etc), then you need to add another external to the mix and move it off site. Drobo would provide you with some drive redundancy, but the Drobo itself can still fail just like any other storage option.
 
i understand about NAS i was simply saying that i wouldnt mind using it in combination with a Drobo if i wanted to go that route...carbonite is something ive heard a lot about...

maybe im just paranoid bc ive heard about ppl who had external HDD die randomly on them and GBs upon GBs of really important pictures and stuff gone...
 
NAS i was simply saying that i wouldnt mind using it in combination with a Drobo if i wanted to go that route
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I see no point to using a drobo and a nas as they both serve the same function. The drobo just uses a proprietary raid that makes you locked into buying a new drobo if your drobo dies. What am I missing?
 
schulzpm said:
To address security concerns, I use TrueCrypt to create an encrypted disk (as a file) that I store secure information in. Then I backup the TrueCrypt file with carbonite.

drobo looks cool, but $300 is 5 years of carbonite.
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This.
 
ea216363 said:
maybe im just paranoid bc ive heard about ppl who had external HDD die randomly on them and GBs upon GBs of really important pictures and stuff gone...
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If you are just using the external as additional storage, then it is NOT a backup. A backup is a separate copy of the data. Data that exists in only one location is, by definition, not backed up.
 
How much data do you have and how fast is it growing? How much REALLY important data do you have?
 
I use Mozy at home. No limit and no real issues as far as I can tell.

BackBlaze is also another option that we actually employ at work alongside tapes, and mirrors.
 
I use Mozy at home. No limit and no real issues as far as I can tell.
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Does it backup large media files (mpegs, ...) by default? From the thread I posted it looks like carbonite by default ignores video formats without clearly telling the user. This was a thread that began a long time ago so perhaps that policy has changed.
 
drescherjm said:
Does it backup large media files (mpegs, ...) by default? From the thread I posted it looks like carbonite by default ignores video formats without clearly telling the user. This was a thread that began a long time ago so perhaps that policy has changed.
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You have to set it at first because it doesn't cover every type of media file. Like it'll back up .wma, .avi, etc, but it doesn't backup .mkv I think so I just had to add it manually. I also just have it backup everything in a folder and just point it to the respective folder and it takes everything in that folder.
 
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