Danger Den going to BSPP?

Top Nurse said:
Post # 1 AC thread and Google it.
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gosh, that dont tell me much. how do i search google when the only threading i know of is the one from this topic. bspp. i know the diff between bspp and npt, i checked that outt early on in this thread. im talkin about all the diff ways people connect their watercooling tubes to their pumps and waterblocks. jsut general info i dont have and would like to know bu of course it aint required so if no one answers it wont be a big deal.

reason why im asking. i only know what a barb is and i found out what it was when my maze 4 gpu block arrived in the mail.
 
Well, my Danger Den order came in, and as I'd feared, I recieved an acetal top with the new barbs (thus making my spare 9/16" fittings unusable, if the need arises). I wish Danger Den had given me the option of getting the bspp fittings or the (until recently) standard fittings.

I guess I've got some options on this:

1: get the block re-threaded with the 9/16" threading

2: get rid of (sell) my stuff that still has the 9/16" threading, change out my TDX's top with one threaded for the bspp fittings, change out my fillport with a bspp threaded one, and buy spare bspp fittings for 1/2" tubing

3: don't change anything, and run a mix of the 9/16" threads and bspp threads


The lazy in me (and my wallet) says option 3 is the way to go, but the perfectionist in me says option 1 or 2 would be better.


:(
 
there is no reason for you to do anything other than option 3 until you absolutely need to change your barbs
 
I was at Sharka today and was looking at a whole pile of Danger Den (HWL) G 1/4 (1/4 BSPP) radiators. There may be problems getting a typical AC or Legris BSPP fitting to seal on these radiators.

Normally a BSPP radiator does not have a deep countersink or chamfer on the threads and all the DD ones I saw do. If you use one of these new DD BSPP rads you will probably have to add a lot of pipe tape to get it to seal with the BSPP fittings currently made or use the ones provided by Danger Den. The problem is that DD is still using that straight thread with the O-ring so they have to put the chamfer in the mating part or it won't seal. :(

However, Sharka said that the ones they got were specially modified for them by Danger Den so perhaps when they actually come from HWL they will be correct. So in the mean time it would be advisable to either use DD barbs or get a real BSPP radiator from Asetek, Alphacool, or perhaps Thermochill.

IMHO the preferred BSPP rads would be the ones sold by Asetek, Thermochill, or other European distributors and manufacturer's.
 
ISn't BSPP a straight thread with an o-ring though? the pictures I see on McMasters catalog make me think exactly that. If that be the case, then the chamfer just hides the o-rings, so long as the o-rings are thick enough. If the o-rings arent thick enough, get new o-rings. Doesn't seem to be that big of a deal really.
 
Punx_Clever said:
ISn't BSPP a straight thread with an o-ring though? the pictures I see on McMasters catalog make me think exactly that. If that be the case, then the chamfer just hides the o-rings, so long as the o-rings are thick enough. If the o-rings arent thick enough, get new o-rings. Doesn't seem to be that big of a deal really.
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qft
 
^^^

Have you ever seen a BSPP fitting made by any of the major fitting manufacturer's in the world? Obviously not or you wouldn't have made such a silly statement...
 
The problem I see about BSPP over NPT is that now, ALL barbs will have to be ordered on the net. Home Depot, Lowe's, Ace Hardware, and any small mom-and-pop store in the US will only stock NPT-threaded items. I know, I work at HD, and the plumber I was talking to earlier today had never even HEARD of BSPP. After I told him what it stood for, he said they referred to it as "metric" and that any pieces he had found were either retapped for NPT, or parts were imported.
 
NPT is great for water pipe as it keeps plumbers in business fixing the leaks that go on forever. ;)
 
Kil4Thril said:
The problem I see about BSPP over NPT is that now, ALL barbs will have to be ordered on the net. Home Depot, Lowe's, Ace Hardware, and any small mom-and-pop store in the US will only stock NPT-threaded items. I know, I work at HD, and the plumber I was talking to earlier today had never even HEARD of BSPP. After I told him what it stood for, he said they referred to it as "metric" and that any pieces he had found were either retapped for NPT, or parts were imported.
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Well since you aren't buying your other watercooling stuff at HD who cares?
 
Top Nurse said:
NPT is great for water pipe as it keeps plumbers in business fixing the leaks that go on forever. ;)
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My paintball markers also use NPT fittings, and with a little teflon tape, they hold upwards of 800 psi without leaking. The tapered thread is designed to seal, as long as it's screwed down enough.
 
Timmee said:
My paintball markers also use NPT fittings, and with a little teflon tape, they hold upwards of 800 psi without leaking. The tapered thread is designed to seal, as long as it's screwed down enough.
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That is exactly the problem in a watercooling system. You screw then down tight enough and other things tend to crack or break.

When I get home tomorrow from work I will shoot some pics of BSPP and straight DD fittings so you guys can see the difference.
 
Top Nurse said:
NPT is great for water pipe as it keeps plumbers in business fixing the leaks that go on forever. ;)
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Only if your a crappy plumber... Honestly TN, your constant dismissal of proven technology is getting old. I've yet to have the NPT fittings in my system leak, but thats because I know how to use them I guess. Cause, I've yet to have alot of NPT fittings that I've worked on leak.

More often than not people tighten things down to hard. It's all about knowing how something works before you go gung ho on it.
 
Punx_Clever More often than not people tighten things down to hard. It's all about knowing how something works before you go gung ho on it.[/QUOTE said:
//gives Punx a cookie- and his favorite beer for that answer.//

Also, TN, I purchase a LOT of things at HD. Why not have fittings, tubing, Propylene Glycol, distilled water, sandpaper, wiring components, etc available under one roof? Especially since I'll be there anyway. Now, I don't have an issue with switching to "metric", but America as a whole, will. That means that parts will not be readily available. Do you want to be rig-less due to a bad fitting? Then, you have to wait while someone finally decides to import some on your behalf?
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I can see where all the confusion comes from. Danger Den themselves are confused. I ordered a new top for my TDX (going from intel to 939) and they sent me fittings and a top. The fittings they sent wouldn't even screw into the top they sent in the same bag. The new top had 1/4 npt fittings I think... I just went down to Home Depot and got some nylon fittings that worked until DD sent me the correct ones.
 
Top Nurse said:
NPT is great for water pipe as it keeps plumbers in business fixing the leaks that go on forever. ;)
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Get over this silly thread (no pun intended) British /National they are just standards like inch centimeter .... TN You think there is no need for plumbers pipe fitters in Europe? perhaps they have engineered a superior thread? -NOT- You only have a problem if you shove a round peg in a square hole. Its all about marketing to the needs of the people in a region like import cars having polution junk put on them to be sold to us here. This change is prob nothing more than another case of us bending over backwards to be able to sell a product over there. We should demand the same service from them if they want to sell over here.
 
jman1 said:
Get over this silly thread (no pun intended) British /National they are just standards like inch centimeter .... TN You think there is no need for plumbers pipe fitters in Europe? perhaps they have engineered a superior thread? -NOT- You only have a problem if you shove a round peg in a square hole. Its all about marketing to the needs of the people in a region like import cars having polution junk put on them to be sold to us here. This change is prob nothing more than another case of us bending over backwards to be able to sell a product over there. We should demand the same service from them if they want to sell over here.
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National standards have zip to do about this issue. The issue is simply what type of fitting works best in a given application. F.I. most oil exploration drilling takes place with USA oil thread standards just because it seems to work the best and USA manufaturer's ship the stuff all over the world. If someone else wants to play in the game they make pipe to the same standards. The BSPP fittings currently sold through out the world, by a great many manufacturer's including USA ones, seem to be best for watercooling and a great deal of other types of industrial applications. The reason is simply that it works better....
 
So, TN, where are those pics of a proper BSPP fitting? I really am curious to see the difference.
 
penguin said:
So, TN, where are those pics of a proper BSPP fitting? I really am curious to see the difference.
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Will try and get them up later today. Got company coming and I cleaned the house yesterday so now I can find things again. ;)
 
OK HERE is a link to another board with Pics of the various connectors used by various blocks perhaps this will help avoid some of the confusion or help folks get the right parts for what they are using.
 
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