D9 memory for C2D

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agibby5

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I'm trying to get a nicely OCable 2gb kit to run on my C2D system I have the system in my wish list ready to purchase.... Its complete except the ram.

I will be using E6300 on a ASUS P5B Deluxe Mobo with the Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler...

I want to get over 3ghz with potential to go marginally higher... I'd like some nice D9s on a budget, but then again, i guess everyone would.

How do I know if these sticks are D9 or not? Here are my preliminary thoughts. I appreciate any suggestions:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231098

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820220095


Also, I've been trying to find RAM that I want to purchase on this site, but it is clearly an incomplete list: http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/
 
It's getting increasing difficult to find D9 stuff reliably, nevermind cheaply.

I've heard this Wintec is D9GMH:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820161063

But no one seems to have tried it, so you may want to email Wintec for verification.

Right now, there's nothing really cheap out there using D9s...prices continue to get worse.

Team Xtreem or Crucial Ballistix are always Micron D9s, but they are not cheap.

You should try looking for some generic Micron at local shops where you can check the ICs.
You will likely find some to be D9s...
 
GAHHHH!

STOP CALLING IT "D9"

there is soooo much more to it. hell, i know of some chips who's label starts with D9 that is really mobile SDRAM ;)

what you're really looking for is micron's revD chips, in the 'B6' form, which is either D9DCN, D9GMH or D9GKX, depending on what speed and timings it's rated at :p

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on a more positive and helpful note.. ram is so expensive cause everyone only wants micron. they effectively have a monopoly in the enthusiast market because of how well the stuff performs.. thus no competition, so prices are kinda stagnant
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(cf)Eclipse said:
GAHHHH!

STOP CALLING IT "D9"

there is soooo much more to it. hell, i know of some chips who's label starts with D9 that is really mobile SDRAM

what you're really looking for is micron's revD chips, in the 'B6' form, which is either D9DCN, D9GMH or D9GKX, depending on what speed and timings it's rated at :p

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on a more positive and helpful note.. ram is so expensive cause everyone only wants micron. they effectively have a monopoly in the enthusiast market because of how well the stuff performs.. thus no competition, so prices are kinda stagnant
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I apologize that I, along with everyone else, have generalized the longer name of the memory sticks to D9 which quite concisely categorizes them based on the commonality of the first two characters of the model number...

HAHA< i was also trying to be funny :)

Anyway, thanks for your reply... I figured it had to do with supply and demand, as mostly all prices to in a competitive environment. I just didn't know if some factory blew up due to a volcano eruption in some Asian country which produces the majority of the chips for the memory sticks we all love to buy :)
 
hahaha, i hear ya.. it's too easy to make a quick abbreviation, since everyone knows what you're talking about, even if it's not technically correct :D don't take it personally, since you're right, everyone does it :p


and just an fyi, micron is an american company. fabs are here in the states :cool: (idaho iirc)
 
I just said that because when I started first building PCs that was the reason memory prices were so high... that was about 7 years ago!
 
jchen012 said:
If I recall correctly, the D9s have a HZ at the end of the model number.
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for g.skill, this is true, unless they do something sneaky and underhanded :p
 
pretty sure both are using promos now. not 100%, let's wait for word from one of the corsair reps :p
 
yikes i was going to recommend buffalo 2x1gb 800ddr2 sticks which are d9gmh but when i went to find the link found out it's sold out :(
 
ziddey said:
yikes i was going to recommend buffalo 2x1gb 800ddr2 sticks which are d9gmh but when i went to find the link found out it's sold out :(
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do you have a link for future reference? thanks!
 
agibby5 said:
do you have a link for future reference? thanks!
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820150054


http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/
PC6400 Firestix 5.0-5-5-X @ 2.1V

FSX800D2C-K2G


Micron D9GMH (B6-3)
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I got a pair of these myself and while I haven't cracked open the heatspreaders (don't think I have the tools to pop up the clips and don't want to jeopardize anything), I have no reason to believe they're not d9gmh's. I'm running them at 1000mhz 4-4-4-12 2.3v at the moment. Might even be able to do it with 2.2v, but I've had them at 2.3v ever since I put them in my ds3 and haven't looked back yet (running a few vmwares on the box that are going 24/7 doing my mail and other things and since I don't have a backup mx setup yet, going for uptime at the moment :))
 
these will do right?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146563

I'd rather get the above crucials than the G.skills previously mentioned

newls1 said:
You want these for 2GB's http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231065
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for about the same price (~$300)...

EDIT:
however, these pc6400s are cheaper at $289: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820146565


My question now is: will I be able to get to >450mhz with the pc6400's? or would i be better off going with the pc8000's and running them at a lower clock speed?
 
WesM63 said:
Crucial 10th aniverary is D9xx, OCZ DDR2-1000+ is D9xx
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Yeah I was going to purchase the 10th anniversary modules, but they are OOS now... not even listed on Newegg anymore...
 
I'm really teeter-tottering on these two:

these pc8000's for $309
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146563

however, these pc6400s are cheaper at $289: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820146565

I also upgraded my choice of CPUs from a e6300 to a e6400 due to the higher multiplier and greater likelihood of reaching a higher overclock. With the e6300 it would have been beneficial to get the pc8000's to avoid a RAM bottleneck from my understanding. However, with the e6400 and the pc6400 ram, I would only need to get to about 900mhz (450mhz) to get a my target speed (about 3.2ghz). I figured that the pc6400 Ballistix ram should be able to reach 450mhz although I would like someone to reinforce this with their results or experience. Would anyone recommend running the pc8000 ram at 450 (50mhz less than its rated)? I figured I could reuse the RAM later when faster systems are more affordable. But with the pc6400 ram, I'd have to upgrade sooner than the pc8000.

sorry for rambling in the end there....
 
i have pc6400 ballistix that does 600mhz relatively easily on my AM2 system... ;)
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
i have pc6400 ballistix that does 600mhz relatively easily on my AM2 system... ;)
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so you're saying that the pc8000's are overkill at this time and for my situation? do you have to add alot of voltage?
 
dang gibbyzone. where did yuo got all that kinda money from?

i'm getting a 1gb (for now, until prices come down a tad) set of ballistix, with the hope that i can relax the timings and up to volts to the ddr1000 settings... and then increase the clocks as well, lol. long shot, but it's a nice set for a (relatively) good price. it will hold me over better than this shit ass stuff i got at bestbuy on the "must assemble conroe at all costs today" day
 
Falls Included said:
dang gibbyzone. where did yuo got all that kinda money from?

i'm getting a 1gb (for now, until prices come down a tad) set of ballistix, with the hope that i can relax the timings and up to volts to the ddr1000 settings... and then increase the clocks as well, lol. long shot, but it's a nice set for a (relatively) good price. it will hold me over better than this shit ass stuff i got at bestbuy on the "must assemble conroe at all costs today" day
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haha good to converse with you on here!!! yeah, i'm trying to do the research and buy the right thing first rather than get into a situation of buying something to hold me over until prices come down... and i dont think i can pray hard enough for prices to actually drop... :)

i just graduated college on saturday and i told myself that for a combination graduation and Christmas gift i'd splurge on the top of the line stuff... so i'm keeping true to my statement. anyway, i'd rather just get the 2gb set right away because i know i really like to run alot of programs. also i dont want to have to worry about selling the 1gb set for enough money to spark the upgrade to the 2gb in the future.

what do you think i should get, fallsinc?
 
agibby5 said:
so you're saying that the pc8000's are overkill at this time and for my situation? do you have to add alot of voltage?
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yes and no... i forget the exact voltage, but it was around 2.35v at 5-5-4 that got 600mhz stable.. or 2.75v (that's a lot. way more than i would use for 24/7) at 4-4-3. keep in mind that no two kits are the same, and i'm running an AM2 system.. well all know how amd's IMC helps ram clocking :D

and congrats on graduating btw. i've still got 2 more years to go :p
 
I am sure you will be happy with those but at that price why not have paid 20 dollars more and got the PC 8000 Ballistix?
 
Exar Jun said:
I am sure you will be happy with those but at that price why not have paid 20 dollars more and got the PC 8000 Ballistix?
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i could have better used your opinion before my purchase rather than after... thanks for adding a level of post-purchase dissonance
 
Exar Jun said:
I am sure you will be happy with those but at that price why not have paid 20 dollars more and got the PC 8000 Ballistix?
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because the pc8000 clocks about the same, maybe a little higher with loose timings, but the optimal spot for these guys is usually around 4-4-3 ;)
 
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