M76
[H]F Junkie
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I managed exactly 5 seconds before uninstalling Kingdom Come. That was no fun at all.Yeah, KCD is pretty darn good, easy to break with a mace though.
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I managed exactly 5 seconds before uninstalling Kingdom Come. That was no fun at all.Yeah, KCD is pretty darn good, easy to break with a mace though.
Why, what's stopping them?But you can't really expect that good of a system in any game that isn't 100% focused on melee combat. The Mordhau devs spent years working on just the melee system.
Why, what's stopping them?
You haven't played Mordhau then. Kingdom Come's system is absolute trash in comparison.
But you can't really expect that good of a system in any game that isn't 100% focused on melee combat. The Mordhau devs spent years working on just the melee system.
KCD takes time and patience to learn and master, so I'm not surprised.I managed exactly 5 seconds before uninstalling Kingdom Come. That was no fun at all.
Oh, the old mantra, of "spend X hours with it and then it will start to feel good" spiced with a hint of elitism, how quaint. I'd rather spend my time with games that are fun from the start.KCD takes time and patience to learn and master, so I'm not surprised.
Better Stealth FPS: Dishonored
KCD takes time and patience to learn and master, so I'm not surprised.
I like the melee combat from Dishonored a lot. I can't think of any FPS games that do it better. I always liked the melee combat from Oblivion and even Fallout 76, too.
Cyberpunk's melee wasn't bad, it just wasn't super fleshed-out. Outside of the boxing matches, I usually just spammed the normal swing attacks. I found that to be more effective in actual battles. I get it, though. It's tough to balance a game where you have a variety of guns that should be 100x better than swinging a bat or machete.
The combat sucks man and I love the game warts and all. Without a trainer it's all but hopeless at times.
Oh, the old mantra, of "spend X hours with it and then it will start to feel good" spiced with a hint of elitism, how quaint. I'd rather spend my time with games that are fun from the start.
I disagree, I mastered that combat system without any help. I understand why many found it frustrating and gave up or cheated.
To be fair I played the game back when it first came out before any patches or anything. Come to think of it.... hmmmm... I'm way overdue for that replay.
What, was the main menu not up to par?I managed exactly 5 seconds before uninstalling Kingdom Come. That was no fun at all.
loading screen if 5 seconds is accurate, even on an NVME it takes at least a minute to load the game up.What, was the main menu not up to par?
Oh, the old mantra, of "spend X hours with it and then it will start to feel good" spiced with a hint of elitism, how quaint. I'd rather spend my time with games that are fun from the start.
You accuse me of hating everything when discussing a game I like. LOL It's not me hating everything it's that people only get upset when I criticize things they like. I don't know why they demand that I must like the games too that they like.You hate almost everything and you make sure everyone knows it.
LOL, obviously I was exaggerating, but you knew that already and just took the opportunity for some trolling. And here I was expecting an honest discussion.What, was the main menu not up to par?
Oh, so your exaggerated "exactly 5 seconds" wasn't trolling. Gotcha.LOL, obviously I was exaggerating, but you knew that already and just took the opportunity for some trolling. And here I was expecting an honest discussion.
Don't give me that shit. You literally thought I played a game for 5 seconds? So you must think me stupid then, which is the crux of the problem isn't it? You think I'm stupid because I don't like the game you like.Oh, so your exaggerated "exactly 5 seconds" wasn't trolling. Gotcha.
Huh? Much like you, I never played KCD. Take the stick out and laugh a little bud.Don't give me that shit. You literally thought I played a game for 5 seconds? So you must think me stupid then, which is the crux of the problem isn't it? You think I'm stupid because I don't like the game you like.
You accuse me of hating everything when discussing a game I like. LOL It's not me hating everything it's that people only get upset when I criticize things they like. I don't know why they demand that I must like the games too that they like.
As for Dishonored I just re-installed it, because I didn't remember much about it and I don't like speaking out of my ass. So I just played an hour of it, and I'm honestly surprised that this game actually came out the same year as ME3? By looking at it I'd date it 5 years before ME1. And playing It, it feels very outdated. Whoever thinks this does stealth better than CP2077 has nostalgia clouding their judgement.
As for Dishonored I just re-installed it, because I didn't remember much about it and I don't like speaking out of my ass. So I just played an hour of it, and I'm honestly surprised that this game actually came out the same year as ME3? By looking at it I'd date it 5 years before ME1. And playing It, it feels very outdated. Whoever thinks this does stealth better than CP2077 has nostalgia clouding their judgement.
You accuse me of hating everything when discussing a game I like. LOL It's not me hating everything it's that people only get upset when I criticize things they like. I don't know why they demand that I must like the games too that they like.
Did you play it recently? Because I'm telling you it's not. I just started playing it again, and at the very best it's on par with CP2077, it has the same basic mechanics, nothing different. What makes it seem somewhat more engaging is the level design as it is mostly linear. In an open world game the patrol route of npcs can't be designed in a way like that, so you can use the wait and sneak past method in it. But in the end it also has the same basic annoyance as CP2077, you stealth through 90% of a level, but then somenoe notices you and all hell breaks loose. But stealth is definitely much easier in Dishonored, almost to the point of triviality. Which was also a problem in the new DeusEx games.Yes, Dishonored stealth was better, but it's basically a stealth game so that is expected.
Any element in a game can de done well even if it doesn't focus on it. Like the driving mechanics are done well in CP2077 (just as in Mafia, which people also frowned on due to it being "too difficult to control")In Cyberpunk you can play stealth, or action, or hacking, or a mix, so I don't think it's surprising none of those options are better than a game that focuses on one.
You got to be kidding. DeusEx Human revolution had one of the weakest level designs from recent memory. It is improved in Mankind Divided, but that's still not great at it. Dishonored's level design is leaps and bounds better, than those. But CP2077 is open world, so it is comparing apples to oranges. I don't find any fault with the level design of CP2077 unlike that of Human Revolution.But I agree Dishonored level design is better, as were the recent Deus Ex games.
Just because I'm honest about the issues games have doesn't mean I hate them. No game is perfect, but some like to ignore their faults, and when I point them out they go berserk. "HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE THAT BELOVED GAME" I don't deny my experiences, nothing is untouchable and nothing is perfect. If I finish a game that means I liked it well enough. Otherwise I'd have not spent the time on playing it to the end.seems like you enjoy being a contrarian for the sake of being different or edgy...you like games others don't like as much or have issues with and dislike games people praise..
I both criticized and praised CP2077 for various things, and in both cases I get vehement pushback, just from different people.So It seems to me I'm in the middle ground between fanboys who don't want to hear any criticism, and haters who think it's all bad and not worth playing..and for games you like you seem to dismiss all valid criticism based on your need to enjoy it..
Yet fanboys try to present their beloved games as 10s all the time, and when I say anything critical about it I'm persona non grata..a game can be an 8 and still be a great game...the internet mentality of everything either being the greatest thing ever or the worst game ever is silly...most games fall into the gap between a 10 and a zero
When did I say I dismissed Dishonored? I just stated that the stealth mechanics of it are no better than in CP2077. And that it seems much older than it is actually.dismissing games outright after only played an hour like Kingdom Come: Deliverance or Dishonored is foolish...
That's just gatekeeping. How do you dteremine "long enough"? Until I start liking it or bust? There is no rule that says you need to play any game for X hours to determine whether you like them or not. Some games I dismiss quickly, others I spend 3-4 hours on before tossing them to the kerb, it all depends on how interesting and fun they are, and how many things I encounter that I don't like. If I already played a game for a longer period it's very unlikely that I'd dismiss them, as they need to have some redeeming values for me to get that far, and that's not going to change for the rest of it.you didn't play it long enough to form a valid opinion...
Not seeing the greatness and not finding any redeeming values in it is not the same. You wouldn't play 50% of a game that you liked nothing about would you?I didn't understand the greatness of Dark Souls after the first few hours (it took me about halfway through the game for things to click) as there were a ton of mechanics and gameplay features that needed to be learned but after finishing the game I consider the Souls series my all time favorite...sometimes it takes time to learn the game before you can appreciate its greatness
Nailed it. That's why the "ignore" feature is such a beautiful thing.seems like you enjoy being a contrarian for the sake of being different or edgy...you like games others don't like as much or have issues with and dislike games people praise...
Yes, eventually you can clear the map. It seems like a lot at first, but you can complete them all if you focus on it.Do the "Assault in Progress" quests end or regenerate?
We should not be arguing, we should be discussing, but apparently that's impossible because some just take it too personally.I'm not even sure what were arguing about anymore. I loved Cyberpunk though, I spent 175 hours in it so far.
As someone who uses the arrow keys, I basically have to have the number pad for pile of functions.
I was going to post a link to this earlier, but then I just shrugged.. did anyone honestly expect different?Cyberpunk 2077 Patch 1.2 delayed
The studio cited the recent hacking as the culprit, which saw source code for multiple games and sensitive company documents stolen, as well as the company's servers being hit with an encryption attack...CDPR says: "the recent cyber attack on the studio’s IT infrastructure and extensive scope of the update mean this unfortunately will not happen — we’ll need some additional time."
"Our goal for Patch 1.2 goes beyond any of our previous updates. We’ve been working on numerous overall quality improvements and fixes, and we still have work to do to make sure that’s what you get. With that in mind, we’re now aiming for release in the second half of March"...
https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1364607741680115717