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crysis optimization

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antipunt1

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Sorry, this is probably a sore subject. But I was just wondering if there's any techie that can basically magically tell me what settings I should run Crysis under, just by listing my specs. I was also curious if anyone knew how to 'optimize' the settings. For example, just saying 'high' or 'medium' is obviously less helpful than telling me that, for example, settings shaders to low and textures to high would be my 'best bet', etc. Kind of a long shot here :p


Specs:

Intel Core 2 Duo 3.0 ghz (best selling one)
4 gigs of RAM (but 32 bit Vista reads a portion of it)
dual SLI 8800GT
 
Well as a vague guideline you should be fine running everything on High for sure...but what resolution are you running at?

With my Q6600 quadcore @ 3GHz (no real gain in crysis from quad so same performance as your E8400) 4GB of DDR2 and a single HD4870 i can run it @ 1680x1050 with everything on high and with 2xAA with no real noticeable slowdown...perfectly playable.
8800GT SLI should accomplish pretty close to the same.

Sorry for just throwing that generic "use high" answer at you, but in all fairness it should really be fine, you could play around from there seeing if you're willing to sacrifice certain eye candy for more performance.

Tough to say exactly what to set things to to customize it all because it's all about the trade off between image quality and performance...and other then starting with everything at high, you're the one that has to make the call if you want to sacrifice certain settings to gain more FPS.

EDIT: Kowan beat me to it in a way with that tweak guide...see what settings you think you can live with at lower settings based on the screenshots and go with it.
 
thx much you guys; i'll 'tweak' around and see wut i can go.

hmm thats strange, I swear i ran it on 'high' (after originally with very high) and lagged the heck outta me. Then I exited the program. Rewent back in with medium, and set it up to high. i'm running most things without much lag. ... eh o well, maybe i'm crazy

fyi i use 1280X800. I don't dare max it out to 1680X1050 (native)
 
You need to restart the game for many settings to take.
 
One issue with 1280*800 is that you'll see ~25% scaling with SLI at that resolution at best. You may want to try tweaking at your native resolution first.

Also, if you aren't going to go for the absolute maximum visual effects, force Crysis to run in DirectX 9 mode with the -DX9 command-line switch. You'll use about 50% more system memory, but you'll probably gain 5-10 fps.
 
There are some modified .cfg files floating around that claim to give you the quality of Very High with the performance hit of High or even lower. While that isn't quite the case, they do provide a nice image quality improvement over High, with no loss of performance. Worth checking out, IMO. You'll have to try a few before you find one that's optimal for your system.
 
I'd just like to point out that this is NOT optimisation, this is simply a trade off between visuals frame rate.

This usualy turns into a "Crysis is badly optimised" because someone else can produce a good image quality with faster frame rates, remember that they're sacraficing some visuals along the way, even if it's not obvious to you.

It's not like the float32 mod for STALKER which changes the way the game works and gives a increase in frame rate, you're just tweaking the settings which is always a trade off.
 
Frostex said:
I'd just like to point out that this is NOT optimisation, this is simply a trade off between visuals frame rate.

This usualy turns into a "Crysis is badly optimised" because someone else can produce a good image quality with faster frame rates, remember that they're sacraficing some visuals along the way, even if it's not obvious to you.

It's not like the float32 mod for STALKER which changes the way the game works and gives a increase in frame rate, you're just tweaking the settings which is always a trade off.
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We were never talking about physically modifiying the game to increase framerates. I don't mean to be rude, but read the first post in the thread:

I was just wondering if there's any techie that can basically magically tell me what settings I should run Crysis under, just by listing my specs. I was also curious if anyone knew how to 'optimize' the settings. For example, just saying 'high' or 'medium' is obviously less helpful than telling me that, for example, settings shaders to low and textures to high would be my 'best bet', etc. Kind of a long shot here
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It was only originally intended to talk about how to best "tune" the setting in the game, not modify it.

There is more then one definition to the word optimize, officially the word optimization means:

The procedure or procedures used to make a system or design as effective or functional as possible, especially the mathematical techniques involved.

I'm pretty sure we're well within that definition. Sorry, I don't mean to seem like an a$$, just making sure that there's no misunderstandings so we can continue to help antipunt1 in whatever way possible.
 
You should be able to use 1680x1050 all high with some tweaks set to very high. Make sure you use dx9!!! This is incredibly important. There is 0 visual quality improvement between dx9 and dx10, and all the dx10 very high goodies can be added through autoexec tweaks.

My recommendation would be to use all high, then find a tweak guide for very high settings to see what you can boost up. Crysis is the only game I've ever played where 30 fps feels like butter, so i wouldn't worry about trying to get 50 or 60fps. I personally think that full motion blur adds a lot to the game, so i would recommend setting everything to high, then in an autoexec.cfg file placed in your crysis folder add "q_renderer 3" and "r_motionblur 5" it hardly impacts fps but really makes a world of difference in the action. You won't notice a difference in screen shots though.

I'm guessing, with those settings you should get about 45+fps average, so you could still tweak a bit higher than that. With those settings I get about 32fps using a stock q6700 with an 8800gts 512mb. Due to your SLI cards, your rig is far better than mine.



If that doesn't seem to be working right, I would recommend going with CUAATS

http://www.incrysis.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=23117

again, make sure you add the settings I listed above ^^^ for motion blur if the level you are using doesn't have it. You should be able to run level 4 or level 5 no problem.
 
I can run high settings at 1440x900 smooth as butter with a single 8800 gt and and e8400. If you can't run 1680x1050 with sli smoothly, there is something wrong with your system.
 
thx for the help guys, for sure.

So far, I'm running the game pretty nicely on high and 1280X800, but I buy what you guys said about me being able to run 1680x1050, so i'm gonna continue tweaking I guess.

And the dx9 recommendation seems really important. I'll try these things out; I mean, I WOULDNT mind it being 1680x1050 if I could get it without being choppy. ya know? =D
 
so I tried the native resolution and dx9. I can definetely run 1680x1050 much better with dx9, so this is pretty cool.

I do run into some nastier framerates (20-30) when I encounter enemies/tanks, but its not that bad.

The real question I have is, after switching to dx9 and the 1680 Res (from dx10 and 1280X800), I can feel an overall slight decrease in performance. And as for the increase in visuals, I...lets say, can't really tell.

So my question is does this make sense? Of course, I am saying this with skepticism towards what i'm believing. B/c I've heard that the higher the resolution, the better it looks naturally. So maybe it's just that b/c I'm running only one setting at a time, I can't really tell that 1680 with dx9 is actually better overall?
 
you should be able to play it at 1680*1050 easily with 8800gt sli, so turn up that resolution, I am thinking you would get around 40+ average on that resolution
 
Not really surprised at all by the 4870 performance.

I've read somewhere that Crysis doesn't at all take advantage of SLI. The frame rate increase is like 5-10 i think at best. Of course, i'm nowhere expert at this, so i can't rly say.

Yea, I turned up the resolution. I did, however, technically also reduce advanced video settings. Even though I now play everything on high and its fine, I switched to dx9. Still, I find the graphics impressive nonethless, but I seem to notice an overall decrease in graphics still. But it might just be my imagination (placebo effect of knowing i siwtched to dx9)
 
This config here is a good worked over crysis optimizer. Comes with an installer and you can choose 7 diff levels of graphics settings based on your hardware. I would recommend level 4 or 5 based on your setup.
 
antipunt1 said:
I've read somewhere that Crysis doesn't at all take advantage of SLI. The frame rate increase is like 5-10 i think at best. Of course, i'm nowhere expert at this, so i can't rly say.
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Earlier versions of Crysis may not have, but, aside from a few glitchy sections where changing AA resolved the issue, I've never seen less than ~50% scaling in two-way SLI with either 8800GT or GTX 280, at 1080p.
 
antipunt1 said:
Not really surprised at all by the 4870 performance.

I've read somewhere that Crysis doesn't at all take advantage of SLI. The frame rate increase is like 5-10 i think at best. Of course, i'm nowhere expert at this, so i can't rly say.

Yea, I turned up the resolution. I did, however, technically also reduce advanced video settings. Even though I now play everything on high and its fine, I switched to dx9. Still, I find the graphics impressive nonethless, but I seem to notice an overall decrease in graphics still. But it might just be my imagination (placebo effect of knowing i siwtched to dx9)
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crysis does work great with sli.
3x gtx 280's can play 1920x1200 on very high with AA.
the epitome of the term "maxed out"
 
thx for the help guys.
but as of now, i'm running 1680X1050, everything set on high, dx9.

I'm not sure if anyone is screaming while pulling their hair saying (after looking at my specs), no you fool! you can do better! but i'm sensing from tweaking, and also looking at my fps, that I have it at the 'best' it could possibly be.

I have no anti-aliasiing, because i'm afraid that that's REALLY gonna do me in. In addition, I'm not saying Crysis doesn't benefit from SLI, but i'm saying, especially with realistic parts/etc. (tri SLI. WHO DA HECK runs tri-sli lol), that Crysis should run better on Dual SLI 8800gt than it does. I think the difference between one 8800gt and 2 8800gt on SLI doesn't equate to the difference that it should; or at least that's what i've been reading. what's the benefit even after the patch, like 4-8 fps increase on 1680x1050? :rolleyes:
 
Cheffy said:
I can run high settings at 1440x900 smooth as butter with a single 8800 gt and and e8400. If you can't run 1680x1050 with sli smoothly, there is something wrong with your system.
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Then there must be something wrong with my system, as I can't nearly run it with everything on high.

Can you post more detailed specifications?
 
lol, i only have an BFG Nvidia Geforce 8800 Factory Overclocked 512MB. But it suits me well, still runs Crysis well :p
 
AVT said:
Then there must be something wrong with my system, as I can't nearly run it with everything on high.

Can you post more detailed specifications?
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If you're talking about your sig system then that 8800GS is going to be holding you back big time compared to use with 8800GT SLI and HD4870 systems running it on high.
 
antipunt1 said:
thx for the help guys.
but as of now, i'm running 1680X1050, everything set on high, dx9.

I'm not sure if anyone is screaming while pulling their hair saying (after looking at my specs), no you fool! you can do better! but i'm sensing from tweaking, and also looking at my fps, that I have it at the 'best' it could possibly be.

I have no anti-aliasiing, because i'm afraid that that's REALLY gonna do me in. In addition, I'm not saying Crysis doesn't benefit from SLI, but i'm saying, especially with realistic parts/etc. (tri SLI. WHO DA HECK runs tri-sli lol), that Crysis should run better on Dual SLI 8800gt than it does. I think the difference between one 8800gt and 2 8800gt on SLI doesn't equate to the difference that it should; or at least that's what i've been reading. what's the benefit even after the patch, like 4-8 fps increase on 1680x1050? :rolleyes:
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SLI (and a bunch of other things) were reportedly broken on Crysis before 1.2. If you haven't patched to 1.2.1, do so first. I would guess that you should expect something like 40-50% scaling in Crysis at 1680*1050 with SLI 8800GT over a single card.
 
I use this custom config with my single 4870 @1280x1024 (2xAA) and it runs well. It does require the horsepower of a 4870 or higher end Nvidia card(s) though. The lighting and shadows give Crysis a realism I hadn't seen before. Very nice!

Check out the screenshots at the end of the post.

Ultra High Quality Mod

http://www.crymod.com/filebase.php?fileid=491
 
Spartacus said:
I use this custom config with my single 4870 @1280x1024 (2xAA) and it runs well. It does require the horsepower of a 4870 or higher end Nvidia card(s) though. The lighting and shadows give Crysis a realism I hadn't seen before. Very nice!

Check out the screenshots at the end of the post.

Ultra High Quality Mod

http://www.crymod.com/filebase.php?fileid=491
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I'm DEFINITELY gonna have to give that a shot once my Shuttle is up and running, looks amazing...especially if the performance hit isn't huge.
 
cornelious0_0 said:
If you're talking about your sig system then that 8800GS is going to be holding you back big time compared to use with 8800GT SLI and HD4870 systems running it on high.
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I realize this, however, after reading, the lower memory shouldn't be holding me back as far back as it is.

FYI It's only playable @ 1024x768 with all on medium.

The performance difference can't be THAT big.

edit: Only reason I ever bought the 8800GS was because it had COD4 bundled.. and counting that, price was $40, can't go wrong with that.
 
AVT said:
I realize this, however, after reading, the lower memory shouldn't be holding me back as far back as it is.

FYI It's only playable @ 1024x768 with all on medium.

The performance difference can't be THAT big.

edit: Only reason I ever bought the 8800GS was because it had COD4 bundled.. and counting that, price was $40, can't go wrong with that.
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1024x768 and medium? I get 31 fps in the gpu benchmark at 1024x768 all medium with just a 8600gt. you should easily be able to play at 1280x1024 with medium settings.
 
Frostex said:
I'd just like to point out that this is NOT optimisation, this is simply a trade off between visuals frame rate.

This usualy turns into a "Crysis is badly optimised" because someone else can produce a good image quality with faster frame rates, remember that they're sacraficing some visuals along the way, even if it's not obvious to you.

It's not like the float32 mod for STALKER which changes the way the game works and gives a increase in frame rate, you're just tweaking the settings which is always a trade off.
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Optimizing a game is always about arriving at a compromise between visuals and framerate. No game engine does "everything" at full detail and full precision - they all do things like dynamic LOD, lower precision and detail where it's not needed etc. You'd be surprised by how much modern game engines "cheat".

Then there are optimizations that you don't "see", like not rendering stuff or computing shaders when they are hidden behind other objects and so on, finding the fastest method of doing things, optimizing for both ATI and Nvidia (since the cards and drivers have different strengths and weaknesses). Both the compromising bits and the "under the hood" optimizations that you don't see are valid ways of optimizing a game. After all, I don't need to see that rock on the adjacent mountain top in its full high-detail glory with all the bumpmaps, reflections, parallax maps and so on because it will only occupy a couple of pixels anyway.
 
AVT said:
I realize this, however, after reading, the lower memory shouldn't be holding me back as far back as it is.

FYI It's only playable @ 1024x768 with all on medium.

The performance difference can't be THAT big.

edit: Only reason I ever bought the 8800GS was because it had COD4 bundled.. and counting that, price was $40, can't go wrong with that.
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Nothing wrong with it at all...except when you try and run games like Crysis on "high". Doesn't surprise me at all to tell you the truth, not really what the card is designed for.
 
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