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Funky_Junk

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Im about to build my first rig and I've gotten a list of all of the parts but I want to hear what you think before I order them.

Thermaltake Tsunami
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133132

DFI Lanparty SLI-DR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136157

AMD X2 3800+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103562

NEC MD-3550A
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152047

Western Digital Caviar 250GB with 16MB Cache
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144701
Maximum PC said it was the best hard drive of the year.

Zalman CNPS9500
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118223

2GB OCZ 184-Pin Platinum Series PC3200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227210

Amtec TruePowerII 550w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103931

2x EVGA 7800GT CO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130256

Dell 2005FPW

Logitech G7

Saitek Eclipse

Theres all the parts, let me know what do you think. One more question: which kind of hdd cables should I get? Thanks.
 
looks sexy to me, use the ones that come with your motherboard they work fine and should be easy enough to hide.

what is the total cost for the rig without the extra stuff (keyboard, mouse, monitor etc)?
 
Since your going SLI, may want to wait until the Expert motherboards come into stock and get the DFI SLI-DR Expert for ~$200
 
The total is a little under $2000. Whats the difference between this SLI-DR and the expert one? Whatever it is its going to be way different from my current computer:

AMD XP 2400+
512MB RAM
ATI Radeon 9200
 
Funky_Junk said:
The total is a little under $2000. Whats the difference between this SLI-DR and the expert one? Whatever it is its going to be way different from my current computer:

AMD XP 2400+
512MB RAM
ATI Radeon 9200
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I had the same question:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=985489
but i decided to go with the Ultra-D only because i do not really need SLI, if i get it work with the Ultra-D, fine, if i don't, fine also...
But IF your going SLI, then I think the Expert (Costing about $40 more than your current selected motherboard) would benefit you
http://anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2620
 
Can someone tell me in a nushell what the difference is and if its really worth it? Some other people have been saying that 1 7800GTX 512MB would be faster than 2 7800GT's. Is this correct?
 
Funky_Junk said:
Can someone tell me in a nushell what the difference is and if its really worth it? Some other people have been saying that 1 7800GTX 512MB would be faster than 2 7800GT's. Is this correct?
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nope. 2 x 7800gts outperform 1 512 meg GTX is nearly every benchmark, by a few fps, plus the 512 meg GTX is about 150 dollars more than 2 gts.
 
I'll only get the expert if someone can tell me the difference and give me a reason to get the expert.
 
Funky_Junk said:
I'll only get the expert if someone can tell me the difference and give me a reason to get the expert.
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Are you OCing? If not, there's not point.
 
Leright said:
Are you OCing? If not, there's not point.
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Thats a really good question. Honestly, if he isn't overclocking, there is alot of pointless cost in that rig that could be reallocated for more functionality.

OP, are you planning on overclocking? And if you want to know about the Expert board, read the anandtech article that one of the posters linked to, thats what it is about.
 
Funky_Junk said:
Yes, im am overclocking.
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Alrighty then, I would look into the DFI expert board.

Its amazing the number of people that buy the super heavy super expensive heatsinks,... and lanparty boards, and really expensive ram,... etc etc and then never overclock.
 
Funky_Junk said:
Yes, im am overclocking.
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if you're OCing, then I would look into getting the Opteron 165, which is the opteron equivalent to the X2 you're getting, but with double the cache. The opterons CO much better, since they must pass much more stringent testing.
 
Funky_Junk said:
Im about to build my first rig and I've gotten a list of all of the parts but I want to hear what you think before I order them.

Thermaltake Tsunami

DFI Lanparty SLI-DR

AMD X2 3800+

NEC MD-3550A

Western Digital Caviar 250GB with 16MB Cache

Maximum PC said it was the best hard drive of the year.

Zalman CNPS9500

2GB OCZ 184-Pin Platinum Series PC3200

Amtec TruePowerII 550w

2x EVGA 7800GT CO

Dell 2005FPW

Logitech G7

Saitek Eclipse

Theres all the parts, let me know what do you think. One more question: which kind of hdd cables should I get? Thanks.
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I would go with the Expert mobo, 1 EVGA 7800GTX 512, a larger power supply, and the Logitech G5. Also, If you are overclocking, I would look at the some OCZ PC-4000 instead of the PC-3200.


Just my 2 cents.

Good Luck :)
 
reddhaus said:
I would go with the Expert mobo, 1 EVGA 7800GTX 512, a larger power supply, and the Logitech G5. Also, If you are overclocking, I would look at the some OCZ PC-4000 instead of the PC-3200.


Just my 2 cents.

Good Luck :)
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well, considering 1 GTX 512 performs worse than SLI GTs, is around 200 bucks more than 2 GTs, and won't be available until january, I'd say he should stick with SLI GTs. Also, his PSU is fine.

However, the GTX 512 will allow for some expandability later on down the road, I suppose.
 
Leright said:
well, considering 1 GTX 512 performs worse than SLI GTs, is around 200 bucks more than 2 GTs, and won't be available until january, I'd say he should stick with SLI GTs. Also, his PSU is fine.
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Well, I said it was just my 2 cents.

I have two KO's and my brother has a single 512 so I know how both setups will perform.

The difference between 2 7800gt's and 1 7800gtx 512 is pretty minimal depending on what game you are playing. I would say anywhere between 1 and 12 frames per second.

You can see for yourself:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2607

Actually I am going to have to take back my advice and tell him to go with the 2 gt's. When I wrote my first post, I forgot about EVGA's "step-up" program. He should get the gt's now, save his pennies for 3 months and then upgrade to 2 512's with this program. In 3 months the 512's will be easier to get and there may be a very slight price drop.

About the PSU..........

550 watts is acceptable for now but when/if he decides to upgrade to dual 512's he will be pushing the limits. The above link also gives figures on power usage. My reasoning for a larger PSU now is for more flexability in the future.

In the end it is all about his budget.
 
Quite better since it has 1 MB Cache it allows more headroom. The 3800 and 165 are figuratively similar in terms of performance but with overclocking, it'll wipe the competition. Someone has overclocked the 165 from 1.8 GHz to 2.6 GHz with just a Zalman 7700Cu. However, be aware of the steppings on the CPU. Usually the newest ones aren't that great compared to the first released ones. So you may want to rush out and get it.

-J.
 
Well, the Opteron 165's are more expensive. So you're saying I could overclock the 165 better than the X2 3800+?
 
Theoretically yes but it would be more of gamble. What's reassuring though is the fact that Opterons are tested more thoroughly by AMD than the regular A64 platform since reliability and uptime is the biggest factor for servers (that's what Opties are for). It's up to you since money either means so much or not in this situation.

-J.
 
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