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Critique this CAD workstation...
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Why not an Intel Core2? Intels outperform AMDs, clock for clock. Check out the GA-P35-DS3L and an Intel Core2Duo E4500 or E6750.
Regardless of your CPU/Mobo, I'd definately ditch that PSU that comes with the case. Bundled PSUs aren't usually good quality, and you don't want a bad quality PSU hooked up to your new hardware since it could potentially fry everything. The only PSU/Case combo I'd recommend would be from Antec, and it would have to be an Earthwatts, Trio/Quatro, or Neo PSU.
You should seriously consider getting a better PSU and/or different case. I'd look into a Cooler Master Centurion 532 or 534 case. Another good case would be the Cooler Master RC-690. For the PSU, check out the XClio Goodpower or Stablepower units, as well as the Enhance 5150GH or the Corsair 450W. Here are some other PSU Suggestions:
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showpost.php?p=1590883&postcount=193
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1460
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103
PSU FAQ: http://www.jonnyguru.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1036
Regardless of your CPU/Mobo, I'd definately ditch that PSU that comes with the case. Bundled PSUs aren't usually good quality, and you don't want a bad quality PSU hooked up to your new hardware since it could potentially fry everything. The only PSU/Case combo I'd recommend would be from Antec, and it would have to be an Earthwatts, Trio/Quatro, or Neo PSU.
You should seriously consider getting a better PSU and/or different case. I'd look into a Cooler Master Centurion 532 or 534 case. Another good case would be the Cooler Master RC-690. For the PSU, check out the XClio Goodpower or Stablepower units, as well as the Enhance 5150GH or the Corsair 450W. Here are some other PSU Suggestions:
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showpost.php?p=1590883&postcount=193
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1460
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103
PSU FAQ: http://www.jonnyguru.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1036
How about this guy for the case/psu combo?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129032
I'm just trying to keep this quick and dirty and the less separate parts I have to order the better. This machine won't be seeing any overclocking or the like, so it just has to run stock. As long as it's stable that's all that matters.
If I go the Intel route, can you recommend a cpu/mobo combo -- best bang for the buck? (edit: somehow missed your recommendation in the previous post, thanks.)
Thanks for your help.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129032
I'm just trying to keep this quick and dirty and the less separate parts I have to order the better. This machine won't be seeing any overclocking or the like, so it just has to run stock. As long as it's stable that's all that matters.
If I go the Intel route, can you recommend a cpu/mobo combo -- best bang for the buck? (edit: somehow missed your recommendation in the previous post, thanks.)
Thanks for your help.
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Yah, that case/psu combo from Antec will do fine. It has 27A on the +12V rails, so you'll be good.
You also might want to look into softmodding a Radeon card instead of buying a FireGL. Many people were softmodding 2600 and 2900 cards into FireGLs that outperformed the Quadro FX5600, or so I've heard. Google for more info.
You also might want to look into softmodding a Radeon card instead of buying a FireGL. Many people were softmodding 2600 and 2900 cards into FireGLs that outperformed the Quadro FX5600, or so I've heard. Google for more info.
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I don't understand spending anything over $200 for a video card that's not a G92 core or 38x0
And, I don't understand spending more than $100 on a CPU that doesn't have 'core2' in the name
And, if you're going to be running any top CAD programs that has been released in the past 2 years, you're going to want more than 2GB of ram, but I don't think you'll need 1066s, 800s should be plenty, especially if they are ballistix
I do residential drafting as a hobby/side work, I use the stand alone version of VisionREZ
I recently built the machine in my sig with the focus of running visionrez on it, it just so happens to game very well also
cost me $525 shipped after MIRs, I reused my HDDs, optical drives, monitor, k/b & mouse
And, I don't understand spending more than $100 on a CPU that doesn't have 'core2' in the name
And, if you're going to be running any top CAD programs that has been released in the past 2 years, you're going to want more than 2GB of ram, but I don't think you'll need 1066s, 800s should be plenty, especially if they are ballistix
I do residential drafting as a hobby/side work, I use the stand alone version of VisionREZ
I recently built the machine in my sig with the focus of running visionrez on it, it just so happens to game very well also
cost me $525 shipped after MIRs, I reused my HDDs, optical drives, monitor, k/b & mouse
Thund3rb1rd
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no OC? even at stock volts? bah
your quadro for less
I don't do enough do justify getting a quadro, maybe in lieu of an upgraded card one day
I'm not sure about the ram (4x1 vs 2x2), since you won't be changing any BIOS settings, the timings are going to be set via SPD
In that case, I would look for the best deal on 4gb....like this
your quadro for less
I don't do enough do justify getting a quadro, maybe in lieu of an upgraded card one day
I'm not sure about the ram (4x1 vs 2x2), since you won't be changing any BIOS settings, the timings are going to be set via SPD
In that case, I would look for the best deal on 4gb....like this
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Find him a g92 quattro for under $200 then...
And why is that?
What diffrence does the manufacture of the ram make to the actual stock speed?
OP go with 4gb its cheap enough, also get 2x2gb sticks, the price diffrence is minimal and it allows room to expand later down the road.
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The mod I was speaking of earlier is a software mod. You do know that the only difference between the professional cards and the gaming cards are the software drivers, right? Well, its up to you. People are getting Quadro FX5600 performance out of their HD 2600/2900 Pro vidcards.
That Crucial 2x2GB kit is fine. If you want something with heatspreaders, the G.Skill 4GBPQ kit is good, too.
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Hes right, if your on a budget look at softmodding a diffrent card maybe with a bios flash. windows wont be able to tell the diffrence and it only takes 5 mins. Take a look.
Thund3rb1rd
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do you proof read?
also Architecture 2008 has D3D support, so
on your quadros...if geforce's aren't certified yet they will be, I don't see WTH they're waiting for. Who is using ADT who isn't running it on windows? I don't think they even have a mac version. strange.and if you really can't wait do this for a $300 quadro fx4600
*edit* checked to see what sketchup uses....OpenGL, makes sense for google to use the free stuff tho :\ ....looks like OP is forced to getting fires or quadros
because it's a CAD machine, you don't use budget CPUs on CAD machines, mine happens to be a personal machine that I also use to tinker with CAD.
because ballistix 800mhz isn't going to have a problem running at 1066 speeds, if they ever needed it, however this was said before I knew they weren't going to OC at all
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The amd cpus arnt 'budget' cpu's. Just because the intels are faster doesnt meen they are 'budget' cpus.
You cannot find a geforce g92 quattro for under $200...
also why would he want to overclock the ram, like you said:
you don't overclock on CAD machines