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bond9229

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Now I bought a Dell Inspiron 5150, ya I know big mistake, but I complained enough and they are exchanging it to a Inspiron 6000 after almost 2 years, haha with another 2 years of complete care warranty. haha

anyways my question is, on the old hunk of junk, i had a 3.2ghz P4 w/HT and on the new comp i am getting a Intel Pentium M Processor 740 (1.73GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB)

Now is this a fair trade, and honestly i do not care about it being more mobile and more battery efficient, is it a better cpu, plain and simple.

Thanks
 
The CPU is a lot cooler, and yes, it is better.

Would be amazing if you could overclock it and get some excellent performance, but Dell motherboards don't allow o/c.
 
The P4 with HT @ 3.2 is probably a bit faster.... Yes the Pentium M is a lot cooler, and gets better battery life, but if you don't care about those things...

The big thing you are losing is HT. Multitasking suffers on Pentium Ms, I have a Pentium M laptop myself @ 1.6. While it is nice for battery life, and has plenty of power to get most stuff done, my P4 system at home does feel a lot snappier.
 
NulloModo said:
The P4 with HT @ 3.2 is probably a bit faster.... Yes the Pentium M is a lot cooler, and gets better battery life, but if you don't care about those things...

The big thing you are losing is HT. Multitasking suffers on Pentium Ms, I have a Pentium M laptop myself @ 1.6. While it is nice for battery life, and has plenty of power to get most stuff done, my P4 system at home does feel a lot snappier.
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Maybe, maybe not. I have the same Pentium-M chip in my 9300. I sold my P4 2.4Ghz 800FSB w/ HT and stayed with this and didn't notice a difference between the two. The only time I do see a difference is in HD access. That's my own fault though for going with a 5400RPM drive instead of a 7200RPM drive but I couldn't justify $300 more on the price for a few more RPM.
 
I have a 3.2E and a 2.8C and never notice a difference between HT or not. It's not as beneficial as they make you believe.

If you overclock that CPU, wou will kill almost any Intel CPU out today.
 
NulloModo said:
The P4 with HT @ 3.2 is probably a bit faster.... Yes the Pentium M is a lot cooler, and gets better battery life, but if you don't care about those things...

The big thing you are losing is HT. Multitasking suffers on Pentium Ms, I have a Pentium M laptop myself @ 1.6. While it is nice for battery life, and has plenty of power to get most stuff done, my P4 system at home does feel a lot snappier.
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How much of that is the processor and how much is Dell's bloatware? That and your desktop rig has HT, of course a single core lappy is going to feel intangibly slower coming from quasi-SMP goodness. Doesn't mean the raw speed isn't there.
 
LstOfTheBrunnenG said:
How much of that is the processor and how much is Dell's bloatware? That and your desktop rig has HT, of course a single core lappy is going to feel intangibly slower coming from quasi-SMP goodness. Doesn't mean the raw speed isn't there.
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Well, its a Latitude line notebook, so minimal bloatware. Also, I guess I said it confusingly, my desktop rig doesn't have HT either, it's an original run northwood 2.4, however, it's still faster than the 1.6 Banias in my laptop. I have used HT enabled rigs, and those seem very very smooth, not quite dual core smooth once things get hot and heavy, but still very nice.
 
what i have heard is that the pm cpus add aprrox 1-1.2ghz to be measured alongside with the p4s ht. so a 3.2ghz p4 with ht would be equal to a 2-2.2ghz pm??

is that a fair assesment, or I totally out to left field on this one.

thanks
 
mohammedtaha said:
I have a 3.2E and a 2.8C and never notice a difference between HT or not. It's not as beneficial as they make you believe.
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Um, they both have Hyperthreading.

OP, they've already said it. The M is just as fast except for HT.
 
mavalpha said:
Um, they both have Hyperthreading.

OP, they've already said it. The M is just as fast except for HT.
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And you can disable Hyperthreading in the bios. I don't notice any difference when it's enabled or disabled.

There's a difference between M processors and normal S478 processors. They're a lot faster when overclocked and their power usage is amazing.

Especially in a laptop, I'd go with the M processors because those laptops are a lot thinner than the S478 Northwood/Prescott laptops.

The Inspiron laptops are nice, just get 1 Gig of ram and you'll be more than happy.
 
because I have a friend who has the 6000 and it's really nice. I would get one too but I would go high end not 6000. Don't get me wrong though, I like the 6000, it has a nice sleek look to it and it performs really well. I would recommend you upgrade to 1gb since 512 doesn't seem to cut it nowadays. Other than that, they're definitely worth the money. :D
 
man i got the new cpu today and it is a lot slower then the old one. new one being 1.73 pentium M compared to the old one being a pentium 4 mobile 3.4 with ht.

Whenever I play a game the cpu runs at 100% the entire time. oh dell....
 
bond9229 said:
Whenever I play a game the cpu runs at 100% the entire time. oh dell....
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Um... ya... Ive never been on any computer that doenst use the processor when playing games, unless of course you are talking about solitaire.
 
bond9229 said:
man i got the new cpu today and it is a lot slower then the old one. new one being 1.73 pentium M compared to the old one being a pentium 4 mobile 3.4 with ht.

Whenever I play a game the cpu runs at 100% the entire time. oh dell....
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The P4 with HT was the reason it wouldn't appear to be running at "100%" because it imitates two processor cores - and since most games aren't multithreaded, they only make use of one theoretical core. This means that when the CPU isn't Hyper-Threaded, it will run at 100% CPU usage for that game - it's a dedicated program and a game needs the processor in its entirety. (For a HT CPU, it will run at 50% - or one theoretical processor maxed)

You'll definitely notice at times that it'll feel slower - but the performance is there. It also runs a lot cooler while using a lot less energy - it's a very efficient processor, so don't feel discouraged. You've got a good processor in your hands.
 
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