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Counter-Strike: Source Benchmarked!

The idea with CSS/CS is that you turn the res and details down to get the fastest play possible - but with these cards there's only a 1-2fps difference between them at lower settings. So in terms of fastest play maybe neither has won.

Higher setting are used when you play for fun - even then there's not much of a difference it seems.
 
so with some(2x maybe) AA & AF what kinda FPS are we lookin at w/a 9800pro?
 
Tigerblade said:
Nope, but at the higher res and with all eye candy on the difference between the 2 will be the same difference in D3 only opposite....I can only see the gap widening when there is a bigger more intense map and 3Dc is implemented. Shit there is already a gap of 7fps already @16x12....(Doom 3 anyone?) the difference now is that the shoe is on the other foot and with this being the forum it is, the toys are being thrown out of the pram :)

Funny that 7fps was the whole world when D3 benchies were released and that Nvidia had 'WON' the war.....now a mod of the bigger, better game has been benchied, 7fps is fuck all, it really is sad seeing the complete difference of reaction. So you've all shot yourselves in the foot by buying a 6800 series card for 1 game, big deal, you'll still be able to play HL2 just as good as we ATI owners play D3.

Bring on the full HL2 benchmark...WOOT


One more time for ppl that didn't read it ;) "The ATI Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition will be the fastest graphics card for games based on the Source Engine, particularly Half Life 2 and Counter-Strike: Source."

hahahahahaha...that's just funny dude...must be nice to see the world through rose colored glasses...

In order for ATi to do to Nv in HL2 what Nv did to ATi in D3, ATi would have to release a card below the Pro for $299 that could compete with the Ultra in HL2...because that's what happened in Doom3...but I guess you conveniently ignored that part...

I've said it a million times and you know it as well as everyone else...the Doom3 benchmarks were about the Pro getting outclassed by the GT...and the 6800NU giving the XTPE a run for its money...the 6800NU had higher min framerates over the XTPE in several resolutions...you know this...and you still quote that ignorant-ass 7fps number...

Not to mention, we already know that Nv will be getting a performance boost for AF in the next driver release...AND optimizations were most likely disabled when they ran these benchmarks...ATi is slightly ahead right now...but you know as well as I do how quickly that can change...
 
All I know is that in a 20 person server i get an average of 100fps at 1600x1200 4xAA and 16xAF.

I am happy with that.
 
Tigerblade said:
Nope, but at the higher res and with all eye candy on the difference between the 2 will be the same difference in D3 only opposite....I can only see the gap widening when there is a bigger more intense map and 3Dc is implemented. Shit there is already a gap of 7fps already @16x12....(Doom 3 anyone?) the difference now is that the shoe is on the other foot and with this being the forum it is, the toys are being thrown out of the pram :)

Funny that 7fps was the whole world when D3 benchies were released and that Nvidia had 'WON' the war.....now a mod of the bigger, better game has been benchied, 7fps is fuck all, it really is sad seeing the complete difference of reaction. So you've all shot yourselves in the foot by buying a 6800 series card for 1 game, big deal, you'll still be able to play HL2 just as good as we ATI owners play D3.

Bring on the full HL2 benchmark...WOOT


One more time for ppl that didn't read it ;) "The ATI Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition will be the fastest graphics card for games based on the Source Engine, particularly Half Life 2 and Counter-Strike: Source."


Before you assume that I'm on Nvidia's side maybe you should note the I just upgraded from a 9700Pro and I'm a bigger fan of HL then Doom. Both of high end cards are great but like The Batman, rancor, and ^eMpTy^ have stated, the X800Xt may lead but it's not by the same comparison in Doom 3. Especially when the real battle was between the GT and X800pro. Here is what I know for sure:

My 6800 Ultra will be able to play HL 2 and tomorrows games a lot faster then my old card. If the X800 has 7 frames so be it, if the Ultra has 7 frames so be it...I don't care. If I could get my hands on a X800XT for a decent price then I would have. It just happened that I found the 6800 Ultra first. Don't hate because I'm taking advantage of compitition.
 
I'm trying real hard to care about anything HL2 related now. :rolleyes:

Funny thing has to be this:
The R420 based cards that we saw were able to give the best performance at high resolutions with Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic Filtering enabled, and therefore I do have confidence in saying that the ATI Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition will be the fastest graphics card for games based on the Source Engine, particularly Half Life 2 and Counter-Strike: Source.
LOL, funny since you'll either have to wait til November for the chance to get an XTPE (for those lowly mortals without one already) or mod an X800 VIVO other then that your in NV land.
 
CrimandEvil said:
I'm trying real hard to care about anything HL2 related now. :rolleyes:

Funny thing has to be this:

LOL, funny since you'll either have to wait til November for the chance to get an XTPE (for those lowly mortals without one already) or mod an X800 VIVO other then that your in NV land.

what's even funnier is that AF and AA were specifically mentioned...once again...the only thing keeping the XTPE alive is AF optimizations...no wonder they won't let you disable them...the card is worthless without them...
 
Well now that it looks like HL 2 will be delayed until November maybe ATi will package some of they're cards with the actual game...next september :rolleyes:
 
Tigerblade said:
. So you've all shot yourselves in the foot by buying a 6800 series card for 1 game,


How about when you work my job to earn my paycheck you can speak about me shooting myself in the foot about a purchase I made because one company cant seem to get off its ass and gets its "super killer" out and about on shelves.... 7FPS is not a land slide in this case....however when you see an entry model card (6800nu) more or less spanking a high end card (x800 xtpe) that is significant...and yet for some reason you down play it now. Come on man drop your bias and open your eyes some that way you can see there is alot more at work than what you want to see.


Atrapine said:
^ Nvidia Group Hug sessions held here at 10PM sharp today dont missout :rolleyes: With everyones special guest Doom3?
I really hope HL2 Ends up being A hell of a lot better that Doom3.?As Doom3 was Seriously one of the worst letdowns i have played to date.
And i could'nt care less whether ATI or Nvidia is faster in HL2. As long as the bloody game finally comes out and i can buy the damed thing :p I will leave the Benchmarking and Fighting to The lunatics.


Weren't you banned? Last I checked a second account is a no no man..besides weren't you banned for similar shit to this?
A trend I keep seeing is those who are die hard on the red side of the fence hate doom3 for no reason...well no reason that makes sense. Seems you were excited about the game seeing as you bought it...and when you found out your card didn't perform up to snuff like NV's did you right off hate it...oh well once you two put down the red shades and see what the hell is going on then maybe you can have a serious conversation untill then its just gonna be a "my company is better than your company" bitchfest.....and it does get annoying
 
SuX0rz said:
Before you assume that I'm on Nvidia's side maybe you should note the I just upgraded from a 9700Pro and I'm a bigger fan of HL then Doom. Both of high end cards are great but like The Batman, rancor, and ^eMpTy^ have stated, the X800Xt may lead but it's not by the same comparison in Doom 3. Especially when the real battle was between the GT and X800pro. Here is what I know for sure:

My 6800 Ultra will be able to play HL 2 and tomorrows games a lot faster then my old card. If the X800 has 7 frames so be it, if the Ultra has 7 frames so be it...I don't care. If I could get my hands on a X800XT for a decent price then I would have. It just happened that I found the 6800 Ultra first. Don't hate because I'm taking advantage of compitition.


Exactly, in D3D games its going win some, loss some on both sides, not much of a difference either with the high end cards. nV is strong in Ogl, ATi is weak. ATi really needs to change thier pricing line up or add in a card to compete with the GT and all the other lower end cards nV is about to shove out. Unlike before nV is focusing on everything not just ther high end. For OEMs thats a good sign to switch back to nV, since most of thier systems will be build with the lower end cards. ATi has had many months for an answer and still nothing..........

nV is knocking on ATi's door and nobody is home.
 
rancor said:
Exactly, in D3D games its going win some, loss some on both sides, not much of a difference either with the high end cards. nV is strong in Ogl, ATi is weak. ATi really needs to change thier pricing line up or add in a card to compete with the GT and all the other lower end cards nV is about to shove out. Unlike before nV is focusing on everything not just ther high end. For OEMs thats a good sign to switch back to nV, since most of thier systems will be build with the lower end cards. ATi has had many months for an answer and still nothing..........

nV is knocking on ATi's door and nobody is home.

/me waits for tiger, elvis, or trapine to answer the door...
 
go away we dont want any...too bad the novices, hehe, just dont get it...

Dropping a 6800 in your mediocre system is not gonna do much for ya... and wont save you from me online either. ;)
 
SuX0rz said:
Well now that it looks like HL 2 will be delayed until November maybe ATi will package some of they're cards with the actual game...next september :rolleyes:

Are you intentionally spreading fud or do you actually believe the game will be delayed until November?
 
gordon151 said:
Are you intentionally spreading fud or do you actually believe the game will be delayed until November?
Haven't you seen the number of retailors that are saying that? :rolleyes:
 
theelviscerator said:
go away we dont want any...too bad the novices, hehe, just dont get it...

Dropping a 6800 in your mediocre system is not gonna do much for ya... and wont save you from me online either. ;)

you wouldn't happen to play halo pc?

not that I would be that lucky...
 
Retailers don't know anything, they post random release dates, you should know that by now.

In previous benchmarks of HL2, ATi and NV were on par with each other, with NV actually winning one of the two levels.

I don't expect to see such a curve between the two chipsets in HL2 as we did in Doom 3. NV has special features designed to work well with largely shadowed areas, ATi doesn't. That's the main reason Doom 3 performed so much better on the NV platform, let alone the fact that it's all OpenGL.

HL2 doesn't have that sort of things, and ATi has no architectural advantages, so I see them performing just like they do in every other game. ATi with AA/AF, NV without.
 
^eMpTy^ said:
you wouldn't happen to play halo pc?

not that I would be that lucky...

I tried the demo and thought this is a really lousy port...
how do you stand it?


how bout desert combat?

I have BFV but havent installed it..

Doom3 but its mp sucks right now...
 
^eMpTy^ said:
/me waits for tiger, elvis, or trapine to answer the door...

LMAO

I have better things to do all day then keep checking this thread every 5 mins ;)

I'm sure you'll enjoy HL2, or CS source or whatever, just please stop crying about the fps difference ;)
 
theelviscerator said:
I tried the demo and thought this is a really lousy port...
how do you stand it?


how bout desert combat?

I have BFV but havent installed it..

Doom3 but its mp sucks right now...

I hear good things about BFV...but I haven't played it...Halo is the most fun I've ever had playing multi-player...but the port of the engine was shit...even with a 6800GT I can't run it at 16x12 without getting a little choppy...looks good though...and tons of fun to play...once you get used to the lag...
 
Tigerblade said:
LMAO

I have better things to do all day then keep checking this thread every 5 mins ;)

I'm sure you'll enjoy HL2, or CS source or whatever, just please stop crying about the fps difference ;)

Nope, but at the higher res and with all eye candy on the difference between the 2 will be the same difference in D3 only opposite....I can only see the gap widening when there is a bigger more...

I think this quote speaks for itself...you guys are so desperate to make HL2 out to be the D3 avenger it's just sad...not even in your wildest imagination could miscontrue these benchmarks to believe that HL2 will be nvidia's D3...but here you are...desperately wanting...isn't that the name of a song?

If anyone's crying bud, it's you...but you have better things to do...so why not just leave the forums to us geeks who actually know what we're talking about...
 
^eMpTy^ said:
I hear good things about BFV...but I haven't played it...Halo is the most fun I've ever had playing multi-player...but the port of the engine was shit...even with a 6800GT I can't run it at 16x12 without getting a little choppy...looks good though...and tons of fun to play...once you get used to the lag...

Hm? I get silky smooth frames at 16x12 16xAF. There is SOME lag here and there but nothing that makes it unplayable. Actually....that was with last drivers. I haven't tried Halo with the 65.62s. Is your GT oced?
 
^eMpTy^ said:
I think this quote speaks for itself...you guys are so desperate to make HL2 out to be the D3 avenger it's just sad...not even in your wildest imagination could miscontrue these benchmarks to believe that HL2 will be nvidia's D3...but here you are...desperately wanting...isn't that the name of a song?

If anyone's crying bud, it's you...but you have better things to do...so why not just leave the forums to us geeks who actually know what we're talking about...

pwned :p

anywhay, seeing these screens i can look forward to running atleast 16*12 4xaa 8xaf, which is a good thing ;). now maby if i v-mod i canget 8xaa or 16xaf.. now that would be sweet
 
Lol @ Empty (even) I don't give a rats ass whether its faster or not, I just love to see you geeks get all het up over it :) At the end of the day, both Doom 3 and very most likely HL2 will run silky smooth and lightning fast on all top hardware.....just chill, they are only games ;)

Elvis, u wanna try ut2k4 Onslaught online....VERY addictive :)
 
Tigerblade said:
Lol @ Empty (even) I don't give a rats ass whether its faster or not, I just love to see you geeks get all het up over it :) At the end of the day, both Doom 3 and very most likely HL2 will run silky smooth and lightning fast on all top hardware.....just chill, they are only games ;)

Elvis, u wanna try ut2k4 Onslaught online....VERY addictive :)


Ok Tiger here is your own quote



Nope, but at the higher res and with all eye candy on the difference between the 2 will be the same difference in D3 only opposite....I can only see the gap widening when there is a bigger more intense map and 3Dc is implemented. Shit there is already a gap of 7fps already @16x12....(Doom 3 anyone?) the difference now is that the shoe is on the other foot and with this being the forum it is, the toys are being thrown out of the pram

Funny that 7fps was the whole world when D3 benchies were released and that Nvidia had 'WON' the war.....now a mod of the bigger, better game has been benchied, 7fps is fuck all, it really is sad seeing the complete difference of reaction. So you've all shot yourselves in the foot by buying a 6800 series card for 1 game, big deal, you'll still be able to play HL2 just as good as we ATI owners play D3.

Bring on the full HL2 benchmark...WOOT


One more time for ppl that didn't read it "The ATI Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition will be the fastest graphics card for games based on the Source Engine, particularly Half Life 2 and Counter-Strike: Source."


Whos the one caring?

You have been proclaiming before that ATi will pummel nV in HL2 and preaching what Gabe Newell and other have been saying that nV won't be able to keep up with ATi in HL2. We have been saying its going to very close.......
 
rancor said:
Ok Tiger here are your own quote






Whos the one caring?

LOL, u ever heard of the phrase 'read between the lines'?

I suggest you go look it up....what I posted did it's job perfectly ;)

I don't give a shit lol, all games run smooth as silk on my rig, so why would I care? It's not like I'm ever gonna bring u from the dark side anyway is it......

At the end of the day, it's a free world, just stop trying to convert ppl that don't want to be converted :) O and b4 u say 'blah blah u said this blah blah', like I said, read between the lines ;) I don't wanna convert anyone.......enjoy the games you play ppl, have fun, and remember it ain't about which large graphics card companys pockets u line, it's about the games :)
 
Tigerblade said:
LOL, u ever heard of the phrase 'read between the lines'?

I suggest you go look it up....what I posted did it's job perfectly ;)

I don't give a shit lol, all games run smooth as silk on my rig, so why would I care? It's not like I'm ever gonna bring u from the dark side anyway is it......

At the end of the day, it's a free world, just stop trying to convert ppl that don't want to be converted :) O and b4 u say 'blah blah u said this blah blah', like I said, read between the lines ;) I don't wanna convert anyone.......enjoy the games you play ppl, have fun, and remember it ain't about which large graphics card companys pockets u line, it's about the games :)


Now you say that because everything that you have stated before, just got flushed down the crapper.

I'm not trying to covert you, thats a hopeless cause anyways. Just saying don't spew out crap you don't know about.
 
rancor said:
You have been proclaiming before that ATi will pummel nV in HL2 and preaching what Gabe Newell and other have been saying that nV won't be able to keep up with ATi in HL2. We have been saying its going to very close.......

I don't doubt it'll be close, but I don't actually care.......

bring on HL2, I'll just have to kick all ur asses in MP ;)
 
rancor said:
Now you say that because everything that you have stated before, just got flushed down the crapper.

I'm not trying to covert you, thats a hopeless cause anyways. Just saying don't spew out crap you don't know about.

Oh dear, u sound so bitter.....dont be like that rancor me old mucka, for it was you that helped me win the bet ;) ta.....

I stand by everything I said.....but now the bet is won, there is no need to carry on :)

Enjoy HL2 ppl......We all know ATI users will get a better experience ;)

Thank You and good night...

Oh Oh erm, I'd like to thank my friends and my family for giving me the will to carry on in the difficult times etc......or and The_Batman, that slanging match was fun too, well played :)
 
how did this thread start into a slugging match? i mean, i thought the benches were a decent overview of cs:s performance, but i think we are taking them too seriously,
 
avatar_of_might said:
how did this thread start into a slugging match? i mean, i thought the benches were a decent overview of cs:s performance, but i think we are taking them too seriously,
Don't 90% of the threads in the Video Card forum turn into a slugging match?
 
At least you guys can play games - my card I just got isn't even workign proplerly - random 5-10 second freezes in all games :S (see my thread.)
 
Blad3 said:
At least you guys can play games - my card I just got isn't even workign proplerly - random 5-10 second freezes in all games :S (see my thread.)

You tried disabling fast writes?
 
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