Core i3? Is it up to the Skyrim/Rage task?

[teletran8]

You know, just in case he wants to pop in an IB in six months, or less, he won't have to buy new hardware.

You or He can pop in a BULLDOZER 8 Core in AM3+. And it AGAIN will cost far less than IB, and most likely outperform it in ALL DX11 First Person Shooters and media / encoding.

I'm sure IB will play DX 8 and 9 games on super-low settings like a beast tho. Have fun with that.

 

[Ruoh]

You or He can pop in a BULLDOZER 8 Core in AM3+. And it AGAIN will cost far less than IB, and most likely outperform it in ALL DX11 First Person Shooters and media / encoding.

I'm sure IB will play DX 8 and 9 games like a beast tho. Have fun with that.

Right. The only thing Bulldozer is pushing is bullshit. Have fun with that.

 

[mrbigshot]

that main concept bench is outdated, they have released an update that uses quicksinc. that knocks the i7 and i3 times to a third of what they were. if he has a cuda enabled nvidia card the amd time could be cut in half just by letting the video card do the work.

 

[illram]

On Newegg, the cheapest X4 970 AM3 mobo combo is $180, the cheapest AM3+ combo is $200.00. The cheapest i3 2100 mobo combo is $175, $168 if you get the chip at Superbiz. (add $5 if you want the mico-ATX rather than mini-ITX.)

I think you would be remiss if you went AMD without going AM3+ to leave open the option of upgrading to Bulldozer, so really it's ~$170 vs. ~$200. Find the benchmark you think is most applicable to your situation and do the price to performance math, then take the shot. Looking at the frames per second benchmarks, the differences look minimal (i.e., imperceptible!). Personally if you go quad-core I would take the plunge and spend the extra moola on something in the i5 line. You won't have to worry about upgrading that puppy for a while.

 

[mrbigshot]

You or He can pop in a BULLDOZER 8 Core in AM3+. And it AGAIN will cost far less than IB, and most likely outperform it in ALL DX11 First Person Shooters and media / encoding.

I'm sure IB will play DX 8 and 9 games on super-low settings like a beast tho. Have fun with that.

how is he going to buy an 8 core bulldozer chip (cheapest being about $100 over his budget)
when the i3 is the most he can spend? nothing will encode faster than a current gen sandy chip when quicksinc is used. im still doubtfull of the dx11 claims made for bulldozer chips.

i do think a quad would be a better choise, one if the less expensive i5's or even a used 1156 i5 would be an option, those hover pretty close to his price point.

 

[teletran8]

On Newegg, the cheapest X4 970 AM3 mobo combo is $180, the cheapest AM3+ combo is $200.00. The cheapest i3 2100 mobo combo is $175, $168 if you get the chip at Superbiz. (add $5 if you want the mico-ATX rather than mini-ITX.)

I think you would be remiss if you went AMD without going AM3+ to leave open the option of upgrading to Bulldozer, so really it's ~$170 vs. ~$200. Find the benchmark you think is most applicable to your situation and do the price to performance math, then take the shot. Looking at the frames per second benchmarks, the differences look minimal (i.e., imperceptible!). Personally if you go quad-core I would take the plunge and spend the extra moola on something in the i5 line. You won't have to worry about upgrading that puppy for a while.

I NEVER SAID to buy the 970BE chip! Please don't put your words in my mouth again.

I said get a 955 or 965 BE chip, and raise the MULTIPLIER in the bios by 1 or 2 degrees so you can get EVEN BETTER performance than a 970 BE stock on a 955 / 965 BE chip that will have a 200-400 MHz OC by raising the multiplier 1-2 points in bios. That is all

how is he going to buy an 8 core bulldozer chip (cheapest being about $100 over his budget)
when the i3 is the most he can spend? nothing will encode faster than a current gen sandy chip when quicksinc is used. im still doubtfull of the dx11 claims made for bulldozer chips.

i do think a quad would be a better choise, one if the less expensive i5's or even a used 1156 i5 would be an option, those hover pretty close to his price point.

I was responding to Ruoh not A_Belmont on that post. IB will cost more than Bulldozer.

IB is the replacement to the 1366 platform which is hella expensive. (I'm pretty sure I'm right on that, correct me if I'm wrong about IB)

 

[illram]

I NEVER SAID to buy the 970BE chip! Please don't put your words in my mouth again.

I said get a 955 or 965 BE chip, and raise the MULTIPLIER in the bios by 1 or 2 degrees so you can get EVEN BETTER performance than a 970 BE stock on a 955 / 965 BE chip that will have a 200-400 MHz OC by raising the multiplier 1-2 points in bios. That is all

I didn't say you did. Does the OP want to OC? I am not sure this was discussed.

@ the OP:

OC'ing will require an aftermarket cooler so add that cost to your build if you want to buy a 955 and OC it.

 

[Ruoh]

IB is the replacement to the 1366 platform which is hella expensive. (I'm pretty sure I'm right on that, correct me if I'm wrong about IB)

Intel will have an 1155 version of the IB cpu (From what I've read thusfar) and I'll bet they come out around $350-$400. The OP will be able to take out the i3, and pop in an IB processor (as long as the bios supports it, of course). He also mentioned that the current cost issues won't be a problem after graduating, so he's got a pretty decent upgrade path.

 

[needmorecarnitine]

IB is the replacement to the 1366 platform which is hella expensive. (I'm pretty sure I'm right on that, correct me if I'm wrong about IB)

IB is the Sandy Bridge replacement

S1366 replacements will SB-E and work on a new S2011 chipset. There will likely be an IB derivative of it later on but Intel has not announced it yet.

Intel will have an 1155 version of the IB cpu (From what I've read thusfar) and I'll bet they come out around $350-$400.

The ONLY socket choice for IB cpus will S1155 unless Intel comes out with a S2011 version. Since it is a SB replacement it will have a wide variety of price points. I'm thinking from $60 to $350.

 

[Ruoh]

IB is the Sandy Bridge replacement

S1366 replacements will SB-E and work on a new S2011 chipset. There will likely be an IB derivative of it later on but Intel has not announced it yet.

The ONLY socket choice for IB cpus will S1155 unless Intel comes out with a S2011 version. Since it is a SB replacement it will have a wide variety of price points. I'm thinking from $60 to $350.

Lets assume that they will have IB-E. It's only logical at this point. As for the cost, I'm sure there will be quite the spread, but at first, I'm sure it'll be an upper end cpu. I, myself, look forward to swapping my i3 (Like what the OP is looking at getting) for a quad core IB. It works great in games, the only time I start seeing lag is during end game Civ 5 with 5-6 opponents.

 

[needmorecarnitine]

well if you were thinking of IB-E than the costs would be a lot different. Probably something along the lines of the speculated SB-E costs. ~$350 for a locked quad, ~$600 unlocked hex and a $1000 EE version are good guesses.

 

[teletran8]

Just saw this.

 

[butterfliesrpretty]

Just saw this.

you can't do an accurate fps test in a game that only has multiplayer available, plus those numbers don't make any sense at all

 

[Ruoh]

Just saw this.

So, your precious AMD cpus, with 2-4X as many cores, manages to do 5fps more?

/thread

 

[/dev/null]

So, your precious AMD cpus, with 2-4X as many cores, manages to do 5fps more?

/thread

I think you are looking at it wrong....the AMD 1100T is what $169? What price is the 2600/2600k?

 

[tangoseal]

I think you are looking at it wrong....the AMD 1100T is what $169? What price is the 2600/2600k?

True and why do people have to blatantly spit on AMD chips? They are designed with the best bang/buck in mind. Not everyone can afford 2600K's etc.... and some other people are right. This is an unpolished game and unfinished undeliverable game right now.

For all we know the code might currently sit better optimized for AMD procesors while they may still be working on smoothing out the coding for Intel processors.

Traditionally AMD doesnt beat Intel in IPC so this leads me to believe that they are still smoothing out stuff for Intel and hell probably AMD as well.

 

[mzs_biteme]

I think you are looking at it wrong....the AMD 1100T is what $169? What price is the 2600/2600k?

$169/$279 respectively......

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EDIT: read to quick and was thinking you asked a price on 2500k/2600k.... But, in all fairness, 2500k (for $169 if available to you) is hell of a better deal than anything AMD's got now...

 

[butterfliesrpretty]

again why the hell is anyone giving that test any credibility it's a multiplayer beta. Gameplay is dynamic every single test is different and its not consistant at all.

 

[needmorecarnitine]

EDIT: read to quick and was thinking you asked a price on 2500k/2600k.... But, in all fairness, 2500k (for $169 if available to you) is hell of a better deal than anything AMD's got now...

You still got it wrong. Its $180. and too not "to"

 

[wtourist]

Anandtech website has a CPU comparison function under "BENCH" on the home page, with some game and productivity results.
Personally an I3 2100 with a Biostar TH67B would serve very well, and would be upgradeable to an I5 chip at need, which are better performers than any of the AMD available.
The Phenom II X4 955 BE is the "BEST" AMD choice if you insist, it overclocks as much as the 965 and costs less.
Otherwise I see nothing worth changing. You should do very well with listed choices.

 

[mzs_biteme]

You still got it wrong. Its $180. and too not "to"

Funny thing I was just at MC on Sunday and they had PLENTY of 2500/2500k/2600/2600k's in stock... One CPU that was cleaned out (nothing but a price sticker left) was i5-760...

 

[Ruoh]

You or He can pop in a BULLDOZER 8 Core in AM3+. And it AGAIN will cost far less than IB, and most likely outperform it in ALL DX11 First Person Shooters and media / encoding.

I'm sure IB will play DX 8 and 9 games on super-low settings like a beast tho. Have fun with that.

I just had to find, and bump this for posterity sake.