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Core i-70 950 Worth Wait?

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I was planning to get a new computer this May, with the Core i-7 940, But if the price point will be the same I might as well wait for the 950. Also is there any news on the new ATI Video cards, or just get the 4870x2

Q2 launch, higher OC potential

According to sources in the Taiwan motherboard industry, Intel plans to update its Core i7 processor lineup next quarter with two new models, the Core i7 950 and Core i7 Extreme 975. These models will essentially replace the Core i7 940 and Core i7 Extreme 965 at higher clock speeds, a new stepping revision, and the same respective price points.

The recently announced Core i7 950 will run at 3.06GHz, roughly 130MHz faster than its 940 predecessor, and will be priced again at $562 in quantities of 1000. Likewise, the Core i7 Extreme 975 will run at 3.33GHz, roughly 133MHz faster than its 965 Extreme predecessor, and will be priced again at $999 in quantities of 1000.


Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_3
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11906&Itemid=1
 
I still don't think it's worth the price premium. Seriously, the 920, with the right board (P6T, among others) and the right air cooling solution, should easily get you 4.0 Ghz. At the current prices on the 920 ($229 @ microcenter), really it is a no brainer.

I've had mine running for 3 weeks now, 4.0ghz took virtually no effort to achieve, and the i7 platform with P6T has been the easiest overclocking experience I've ever had (I've been OCing chips for well over a decade...)

If I were buying in May, I'd be hoping the 950s drop the price of the 920s... :)

That's my take.
 
920 is by far the best value per money.... I have seen reports of people getting higher OC's with the 920 over the 965 that costs $800 more...
 
My 920 has been nothing but fun for me. I wouldn't wait for a higher priced cpu that may overclock higher. A 920 at 4GHz is awfully fast.
 
Bang for the buck for i7 rests solely with 920. Newer D0 revision will OC even further is the ongoing rumor. New rev and price drop? Can you say Q6600 G0 all over again?
 
I'd wait a few months.. Hopefully there will be decent price drops on everything
 
I wanna see i7 hit 6.0Ghz+ under l2n. :(

Anyways like already said, It will be a while until the new i7 be priced like the 920 is being priced now through MC/Frys deals. I say just go 920 and call it a day.
 
Its relevant in the meaning that i meant it, that i was hoping the new chips overclock a bit more under l2n.

They do, and its not worthless, Its called benching for those extreme users. Maybe to you, but hey i dont judge. :p
 
Casper312 said:
Its relevant in the meaning that i meant it, that i was hoping the new chips overclock a bit more under l2n.

They do, and its not worthless, Its called benching for those extreme users. Maybe to you, but hey i dont judge. :p
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There is no usage for a suicide run..other than if you don't actually use you PC for anything besides outdated benches...xtremesys is the parking ground for those people...us other people (+99.9%) don't really care for L2N, Prime...or suicide runs.
 
I hope you mean Pi, and not prime95. :p

Anyways lets drop it, since its not gonna go anywhere. :cool:
 
Atech said:
There is no usage for a suicide run..other than if you don't actually use you PC for anything besides outdated benches...xtremesys is the parking ground for those people...us other people (+99.9%) don't really care for L2N, Prime...or suicide runs.
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Then the things they learn that trickle down to the regular overclocking community must take even longer to reach you. Yes, what they are doing seems irrelevant to normal computing use, but is highly relevant to lower end overclockers who benefit from the tricks they come up with to push one component or another further. LN2 is just the beginning. That's only the cooling method used, they use many other tricks to actually push the components that far including many bios settings that they push further then anybody else. Everything is relative.
 
Also its pretty cool when a record is broken. I don't participate in the extreme oc'ing, but I do enjoy reading and watching others chase those numbers.
 
Atech said:
There is no usage for a suicide run..other than if you don't actually use you PC for anything besides outdated benches...xtremesys is the parking ground for those people...us other people (+99.9%) don't really care for L2N, Prime...or suicide runs.
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What do you use your computer for, looking at cute bunny photos and putting captions under them? If so, my fiance thanks you. Cuteoverload is the parking ground for those people... us other people don't really care for bunnies, cats, or stupid captions. (See what I did there?)
 
Atech said:
There is no usage for a suicide run..other than if you don't actually use you PC for anything besides outdated benches...xtremesys is the parking ground for those people...us other people (+99.9%) don't really care for L2N, Prime...or suicide runs.
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Don't group us with the whatever group you belong to. Probably the same percentage of people who bought KillerNICs.
 
Cause Nic don't really care for L2N, Prime...or suicide runs.

Get with the program guys.
 
Go with the 920. You can always OC and you have more headroom to than the 950 probably will.
 
Casper312 said:
I hope you mean Pi, and not prime95. :p

Anyways lets drop it, since its not gonna go anywhere. :cool:
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My point still stands...no matter the diversions...

moshpit said:
Then the things they learn that trickle down to the regular overclocking community must take even longer to reach you. Yes, what they are doing seems irrelevant to normal computing use, but is highly relevant to lower end overclockers who benefit from the tricks they come up with to push one component or another further. LN2 is just the beginning. That's only the cooling method used, they use many other tricks to actually push the components that far including many bios settings that they push further then anybody else. Everything is relative.
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What a dud.
Before anything has "trickled down from L2N" we have moved on to a new architechture.
Funny part is, that when you ask for PROLONGED benchmarks at eg. xtremesys.org it gets ignored...only suicide runs matters.
Funny part is, that when you ask for REALWORLD benchmarks at eg. xtremesys.org it gets ignored...only suicide runs matters.


bacon said:
Also its pretty cool when a record is broken. I don't participate in the extreme oc'ing, but I do enjoy reading and watching others chase those numbers.
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I prefeer prolonged OC's, not useless suicide runs.

Astral Abyss said:
What do you use your computer for, looking at cute bunny photos and putting captions under them? If so, my fiance thanks you. Cuteoverload is the parking ground for those people... us other people don't really care for bunnies, cats, or stupid captions. (See what I did there?)
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Nice pile of fallacies.
My Q6600 @ 3.2GHz does a /facepalm at you.
Come back when you have more than ad hominem.

KENNYB said:
Don't group us with the whatever group you belong to. Probably the same percentage of people who bought KillerNICs.
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Don't start a fallacy feast...and don't compare onboard crap to a dedicated NiC...especially when you don't know what my work is ;)
 
The 920 is the best bang-for-buck, but that doesn't mean the 950 has no value. Some people want to reach a high clock speed with low voltages and temperatures. For some people, there's certainly less fear when you can run at a high speed without pushing everything to its limit.

If the 950 can reach 4 Ghz with 1.3V, then it would be worth waiting for. But then again, we don't know if that'll be the case, plus we'll have to see how the D0 920 does.

You will probably be perfectly happy with the 920, but it doesn't hurt to wait and see what the 950 can do.
 
heh I didn't know theres gonna be replacements for 940 and 965. But no '930'replacement for the popular 920? :(
Still if they're priced the same as 940 and 965 I doubt they're gonna sell much compared to the 920 where the bag 4 buk is.
 
Only reason to buy the 950 would be because it's 100% sure that it have the new D0 stepping.
Trying to get a 920 D0 will be a lottery (when you buy from a internet store. You can see if it's D0 on the box.)
 
ihira said:
heh I didn't know theres gonna be replacements for 940 and 965. But no '930'replacement for the popular 920? :(
Still if they're priced the same as 940 and 965 I doubt they're gonna sell much compared to the 920 where the bag 4 buk is.
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Intel wants more people to buy the $550 i7, thus they increase performance at $550 compared to the $266 price point. Probably because yields are fine and they like the extra $200 profit per chip.

If they upgrade the $266 price point it just gives people a better reason to avoid the $550 price point.
 
Atech said:
My point still stands...no matter the diversions...



What a dud.
Before anything has "trickled down from L2N" we have moved on to a new architechture.
Funny part is, that when you ask for PROLONGED benchmarks at eg. xtremesys.org it gets ignored...only suicide runs matters.
Funny part is, that when you ask for REALWORLD benchmarks at eg. xtremesys.org it gets ignored...only suicide runs matters.




I prefeer prolonged OC's, not useless suicide runs.



Nice pile of fallacies.
My Q6600 @ 3.2GHz does a /facepalm at you.
Come back when you have more than ad hominem.



Don't start a fallacy feast...and don't compare onboard crap to a dedicated NiC...especially when you don't know what my work is ;)
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Such a facepalm post, but hey everyone has their opinions.
 
moshpit said:
Bang for the buck for i7 rests solely with 920. Newer D0 revision will OC even further is the ongoing rumor. New rev and price drop? Can you say Q6600 G0 all over again?
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Everyone seems to be praising the 920, but doesn't the E8600 still beat it in a lot of games? Why do people always forget about the E8600, and suddenly remember it again when it shows up in benchmarks?

This is why I'm either going to get an E8600, or wait for the 940 to come down in price.
 
Hiyruu said:
Everyone seems to be praising the 920, but doesn't the E8600 still beat it in a lot of games? Why do people always forget about the E8600, and suddenly remember it again when it shows up in benchmarks?

This is why I'm either going to get an E8600, or wait for the 940 to come down in price.
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No, the E8600 doesn't beat it in a lot of games. It wins in a couple. And the i7 920 wins in more, even with a clock disadvantage. Most major RTS games will lean towards the i7. Flight sims as well. FPS games will go one way or the other. So no, the E8600 wins in a minority of games if looked at by genres. And of course, the fact that more and more games are starting to show quad core optimizations.

Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
 
A highly overclocked, say 4Ghz, quad is the best of both world. Wide and deep both.
 
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