Core 2 Duo - Redundant? Stupid?

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What the hell? I'm sure this has been posted a number of times, yet isn't 2 Duo redundant? And to copyright the name Core? As though not every processor has one. I just don't get the naming scheme. Does duo stand for the number of cores, and 2 the number of duos? So is it 4 cores? Dumb, dumb...
 
maenos said:
What the hell? I'm sure this has been posted a number of times, yet isn't 2 Duo redundant? And to copyright the name Core? As though not every processor has one. I just don't get the naming scheme. Does duo stand for the number of cores, and 2 the number of duos? So is it 4 cores? Dumb, dumb...
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I think it would have been more clear if they called it Core Duo 2, or Core Duo Desktop Edition, but not, it is not four cores. It is the second generation of the Core architecture (Conroe core) while the first was Yonah, but that was only designed for laptops. The laptop variant of Conroe will be Merom and should come out at the end of august, and I'm not really sure what they are planning on calling that...
 
There is also a Core Solo processor, mind you (not Core 2 Solo, afaik). I also find the naming a bit clumsy, especially when you think of what the quad core chips will be named. Core 2 Quadro? :confused:
 
Core Duo was based off yohan , so this is the 2nd generation of it.

so it is part 2, 2nd generation..... makes sense to me fine.

Core 2 Duo.
 
It has made sense to me. Say they keep the same naming method, it would progress pretty logically down the road:

New core, 2 cores: Core 3 Duo
New core, 4 cores: Core 3 Quattuor
Newer core, 4 cores: Core 4 Quattuor
Newer core, 8 cores: Core 4 Octo

Though they would probably make it "Quad" instead of "Quattuor" for simplicity. Latin geeks may be upset, but I'm not even close to one.
 
MrGuvernment said:
Core Duo was based off yohan , so this is the 2nd generation of it.

so it is part 2, 2nd generation..... makes sense to me fine.

Core 2 Duo.
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Yet how many in the general public are going to know about yohan, etc.? Pentium II, III, IV, etc. - fairly straightforward, yet this 2 Duo, and w/out a clock rating to boot, is, to me, nonsense. Everyday consumers aren't going to have a clue which processor is better/faster than another...
 
maenos said:
Yet how many in the general public are going to know about yohan, etc.? Pentium II, III, IV, etc. - fairly straightforward, yet this 2 Duo, and w/out a clock rating to boot, is, to me, nonsense. Everyday consumers aren't going to have a clue which processor is better/faster than another...
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E6700 > E6400

Makes sense to me.
 
maenos said:
Yet how many in the general public are going to know about yohan, etc.? Pentium II, III, IV, etc. - fairly straightforward, yet this 2 Duo, and w/out a clock rating to boot, is, to me, nonsense. Everyday consumers aren't going to have a clue which processor is better/faster than another...
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They are probably relying on that fact to help them get rid of the rest of their Pentium IV's and D's .That and the price cuts. The old chips have to go somewhere and they didn't mind selling the earlier versions of Pentium IVs back when AMD 64's really kicked $*@.
 
They're practically forced to use these names because of consumer ignorance. Just be thankful intel isn't at 4ghz with a 40 stage pipeline right now. I'll take a shitty name over a ghz number war.
 
Er...it's yonah not yohan.
I agree naming is confusing, but I find both AMD's and Intel's naming conventions
confusing. I run an Athlon XP 2800+ but the clock speed is 2Ghz...well I did until I
fried it recently.
 
Wait a minute. I posted a thread a while back asking whether or not Core Duo/Solo uses the Core architecture. I was told no it was still based on the Pentium M which is in turn a tweaked Pentium III. It's kinda like how the Pentium/Pentium MMX and the Pentium Pro/Pentium II were two different beasts but had the same basic name.

Also I think there wil be Core 2 Solo, like the E4200 or something.
 
maenos said:
What the hell? I'm sure this has been posted a number of times, yet isn't 2 Duo redundant? And to copyright the name Core? As though not every processor has one. I just don't get the naming scheme. Does duo stand for the number of cores, and 2 the number of duos? So is it 4 cores? Dumb, dumb...
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They copyrighted Intel Core.

So It's Intel Core 2 Duo.

Core is the brand name, 2 means the 2nd generation of it, as well the word Duo, means it is a Dual Core processor simple no?
 
maenos said:
Yet how many in the general public are going to know about yohan, etc.? Pentium II, III, IV, etc. - fairly straightforward, yet this 2 Duo, and w/out a clock rating to boot, is, to me, nonsense. Everyday consumers aren't going to have a clue which processor is better/faster than another...
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and they do now? someone must be buying those celerons or they wouldnt make them.
 
coldpower27 said:
Core is the brand name, 2 means the 2nd generation of it, as well the word Duo, means it is a Dual Core processor simple no?
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yup, but i don't see any core 2 solos yet

i guess the quadro will come with core 3 :p
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
yup, but i don't see any core 2 solos yet
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I'm sure we'll see Core 2 Solo just as we have Core Solo offerings, but probably not until Intel transistions production over to predominately the NGMA chips.

I'd hate to call Conroe just Core 2, and then the bugdet single core lineup end up being 'Half Core 2' or something... :)
 
Lomic seems to have gotten it. It'll allow them to build a new brand legacy, similar to "Pentium".

"Core 2" solo
"Core 2" duo
"Core 2" quadro

But it does sound silly with just 1 model right now.
 
core replaced pentium

pentium 1, 2, 3, 4
core 1, 2, 3, 4 etc

the duo is dual core, solo is single core
 
takuma said:
I wish it was just Pentium 5.
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They dropped pentium due to the bad name the P4 got.

As long as people see "Intel" they dont care if ti says Pentium / paper weight / Core Duo
 
PC Surgeon said:
Anyone else agree they should just keep codenames? "Conroe" "Yonah" ect.?
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but the single core/dual/quad core + 2mb/4mb L2 cache all have different codenames...if you just call them conroe/allendale/kentsfield/whatever, 99% of the world would have no idea whether or not the processors were related in architecture without a decent naming scheme. Not that Im defending core as a decent naming scheme, but its going to make alot more sense to more people.
 
I say they start giving processor names Porn names. For example if I made a processor it would be called "Coco Magnolia".
 
[BB] Rick James said:
I say they start giving processor names Porn names. For example if I made a processor it would be called "Coco Magnolia".
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Coco magnolias are only powerful as workstations. If you want a hardcore processor you should go for the peter northwood or its competitor, the 64bit Lexington Steele 9 giga" model. They both need to be inserted in a motherboard with a VAG- 1N4 socket and sometimes an A55H0 -LE(LINUX Edition) socket for the BI models. You should also be aware that you will not need thermal pastes for these cpus. When either of these cpus are inserted into the socket, they produce their own thermal paste called Artic Silver cemenique.

Pentium 4s shouldn't have taken up a bad name. It's just that many enthusiasts convinced everyone that athlon 64s outperformed pentium 4s by huge margins in gaming. In actuality, if you have a pentium 4 3.4ghz and an athlon 64 clocked at 2.2 on a 7900gt, you would see a marginal difference in frames if any. The things that p4s don't have on their side are heat, power consumption, and motherboard prices. However, IMO, those weakness don't offset its advantages of a generally lower price than their amd counterparts, better workstation performance, overclockability (3ghz netburst 630 prescotts can reach 4ghz w/ the right tools and decent air cooling, they aren't horrible overclockers like many believe),and gaming performance similar to a64s in real world scenarios.
 
Monkey_feces said:
Coco magnolias are only powerful as workstations. If you want a hardcore processor you should go for the peter northwood or its competitor, the 64bit Lexington Steele 9 giga" model. They both need to be inserted in a motherboard with a VAG- 1N4 socket and sometimes an A55H0 -LE(LINUX Edition) socket for the BI models. You should also be aware that you will not need thermal pastes for these cpus. When either of these cpus are inserted into the socket, they produce their own thermal paste called Artic Silver cemenique.

Pentium 4s shouldn't have taken up a bad name. It's just many enthusiasts convinced everyone that athlon 64s outperformed pentium 4s in gaming. In actuality, if you have a pentium 4 3.4ghz and an athlon 64 clocked at 2.2 on a 7900gt, you would see an marginal difference in frames if any.
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lol
 
Monkey_feces said:
Coco magnolias are only powerful as workstations. If you want a hardcore processor you should go for the peter northwood or its competitor, the 64bit Lexington Steele 9 giga" model. They both need to be inserted in a motherboard with a VAG- 1N4 socket and sometimes an A55H0 -LE(LINUX Edition) socket for the BI models. You should also be aware that you will not need thermal pastes for these cpus. When either of these cpus are inserted into the socket, they produce their own thermal paste called Artic Silver cemenique.

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Hardcored cpu and socket!
 
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