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Converting quicktime files
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Nazo
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lastrites, you got the wrong forum by a mile. This is about video hardware, not video software. Lol. You have no idea how luck you are you got any answer at all.
Well, luckily enough, I'm an anime fan who's into too much gaming, so I happened by. ^_^ What you'll have to do is not "edit the FPS" but, reencode to a new file with a lower framerate. However, it makes more sense to lower the bitrate, not the framerate. Either way you are lowering quality, but, bitrate at least is more controllable quality and, done right, you won't even see a noticable difference if you aren't looking. I'm sorry, it's just not super-easy to do this, but, it can be done easily enough if you have a bit of patience. Are you SURE you have to go with quicktime though? I'd personally strongly recommend a proper MPEG4 codec like XviD, or, if you must, DivX.
Anyway, go to http://www.doom9.org/ and look in their download section. They have several tools that could help you out. Assuming Quicktime is properly installed, you should be able to decode it via directshow (get the quicktime alternative codecs if you can't. Google will point you to them quickly enough.) There are a ton of tools for encoding stuff, but, I think you'll find VirtualDub ( http://virtualdub.sourceforge.net ) or the VirtualDubMod ( http://virtualdubmod.sourceforge.net/ ) to be the best out there for AVI encoding. Most prefer TMPGEnc for MPEG encoding, but, I presume you want to go with AVI. If you aren't going to encode to XviD or DivX, but, must go to QuickTime, then you'll want to get the Huffyuv codec to reencode to first. You'll probably want to get a PROPER MP3 codec while you are here if you plan to encode to XviD/DivX. Don't forget to get whichever one of those codecs you need if you need one, and don't forget to reboot your computer after installing any codecs so windows will make them properly take effect.
Open up VirtualDub(Mod) and open the video file in it. Select the compressor you want to use in the video processing and set configuration stuff (if you are going with Xvid or DivX you'll want to set a bitrate here based on whatever size you want the file to be.) If you are going to reencode to quicktime, select Huffyuv and just be sure you don't use the setting to covert RGB to YUV since it lowers the quality (ok, not much, but, hey, it defeats the purpose of Huffyuv!) Set the audio to full processing mode. If you are going to recompress to quicktime, choose the uncompressed PCM codec. If you are going to reencode to DivX/XviD, you'll want to choose a MP3 compression (OGG is better, but, I'll not give you all the details of getting THAT to work...) Since file size is an issue, you might want to go low quality. Stereo at 128Kbps is pretty crappy, but, about as small as you get before it starts to make artifacts that non-audiophiles can hear. If it's mono, then the equivalent is 96Kbps. Before you finish, you might want to add some video filters such as a resize to make the video smaller so it compresses better to give you a smaller sized file. Don't overdo it though or you'll end up with a really crappy looking video even in full screen. You might want to play with some of the other filters, such as cropping and letterboxing (to keep the aspect ratio the same.) You might want to add some sort of denoise filter to get rid of some of the noise from the original compression. Any image processing filters should go before the resize for maximum quality (you can select them and choose move up/down.)
Once all these things are set, click file, choose save as and give it a filename, then save to begin the processing. If you are staying with XviD/DivX, then the avi file it creates is the final and you're done. If you are going with QuickTime, you'll have to open that video file in a quicktime encoder. I'm sorry, I don't know any free alternatives to this because I avoid quicktime like the proprietary system plague that it is. I'm guessing there can't be a legal free alternative anyway due to licensing and such. Of course, Quicktime themselves probably make a free or at least 30-days legally free encoder, so you'll have to pay them a little visit and see if you can find it. Whatever you find, just open up that AVI file and tell it to encode to a quicktime file. Be sure to configure it to use a lower bitrate than what you started with obviously.
Sound complicated? Well, once you know what you are doing, it's all a snap and can be done in seconds excluding the actual time required for compressing. Essentially, QuickTime Pro is doing this type of thing, it just doesn't save to an AVI file before recompressing and it makes things more user friendly.
Well, luckily enough, I'm an anime fan who's into too much gaming, so I happened by. ^_^ What you'll have to do is not "edit the FPS" but, reencode to a new file with a lower framerate. However, it makes more sense to lower the bitrate, not the framerate. Either way you are lowering quality, but, bitrate at least is more controllable quality and, done right, you won't even see a noticable difference if you aren't looking. I'm sorry, it's just not super-easy to do this, but, it can be done easily enough if you have a bit of patience. Are you SURE you have to go with quicktime though? I'd personally strongly recommend a proper MPEG4 codec like XviD, or, if you must, DivX.
Anyway, go to http://www.doom9.org/ and look in their download section. They have several tools that could help you out. Assuming Quicktime is properly installed, you should be able to decode it via directshow (get the quicktime alternative codecs if you can't. Google will point you to them quickly enough.) There are a ton of tools for encoding stuff, but, I think you'll find VirtualDub ( http://virtualdub.sourceforge.net ) or the VirtualDubMod ( http://virtualdubmod.sourceforge.net/ ) to be the best out there for AVI encoding. Most prefer TMPGEnc for MPEG encoding, but, I presume you want to go with AVI. If you aren't going to encode to XviD or DivX, but, must go to QuickTime, then you'll want to get the Huffyuv codec to reencode to first. You'll probably want to get a PROPER MP3 codec while you are here if you plan to encode to XviD/DivX. Don't forget to get whichever one of those codecs you need if you need one, and don't forget to reboot your computer after installing any codecs so windows will make them properly take effect.
Open up VirtualDub(Mod) and open the video file in it. Select the compressor you want to use in the video processing and set configuration stuff (if you are going with Xvid or DivX you'll want to set a bitrate here based on whatever size you want the file to be.) If you are going to reencode to quicktime, select Huffyuv and just be sure you don't use the setting to covert RGB to YUV since it lowers the quality (ok, not much, but, hey, it defeats the purpose of Huffyuv!) Set the audio to full processing mode. If you are going to recompress to quicktime, choose the uncompressed PCM codec. If you are going to reencode to DivX/XviD, you'll want to choose a MP3 compression (OGG is better, but, I'll not give you all the details of getting THAT to work...) Since file size is an issue, you might want to go low quality. Stereo at 128Kbps is pretty crappy, but, about as small as you get before it starts to make artifacts that non-audiophiles can hear. If it's mono, then the equivalent is 96Kbps. Before you finish, you might want to add some video filters such as a resize to make the video smaller so it compresses better to give you a smaller sized file. Don't overdo it though or you'll end up with a really crappy looking video even in full screen. You might want to play with some of the other filters, such as cropping and letterboxing (to keep the aspect ratio the same.) You might want to add some sort of denoise filter to get rid of some of the noise from the original compression. Any image processing filters should go before the resize for maximum quality (you can select them and choose move up/down.)
Once all these things are set, click file, choose save as and give it a filename, then save to begin the processing. If you are staying with XviD/DivX, then the avi file it creates is the final and you're done. If you are going with QuickTime, you'll have to open that video file in a quicktime encoder. I'm sorry, I don't know any free alternatives to this because I avoid quicktime like the proprietary system plague that it is. I'm guessing there can't be a legal free alternative anyway due to licensing and such. Of course, Quicktime themselves probably make a free or at least 30-days legally free encoder, so you'll have to pay them a little visit and see if you can find it. Whatever you find, just open up that AVI file and tell it to encode to a quicktime file. Be sure to configure it to use a lower bitrate than what you started with obviously.
Sound complicated? Well, once you know what you are doing, it's all a snap and can be done in seconds excluding the actual time required for compressing. Essentially, QuickTime Pro is doing this type of thing, it just doesn't save to an AVI file before recompressing and it makes things more user friendly.
I wanted to encode all of my Anime DVDs into AVI files and tried the doom9.org route and installed the Gordian Knot package. I was able to extract the files but had a hard time picking the japanese soundtrack. It all went to complete crap when I tried to add in subtitles. Why is it so complicated? Sheesh. I think I need someone to hold my hand through this hehe.
Nazo
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If it's one video file with multiple audio streams, use VirtualDubMod instead of VirtualDub and you can select from multiple audio streams.
Beyond that, I can't say without knowing just what it is you are using. DVD2AVI? Something else?
Beyond that, I can't say without knowing just what it is you are using. DVD2AVI? Something else?
Yeah, I'm not sure. I just downloaded the Gordian Knot package or something like that that is supposed to walk you through everything. Well, it walks you through which programs to use in which order, but not how to use those programs per se. I do remember VirtualDubMod and DVD2AVI. I also remember the file sizes being pretty big. I think I was able to extract the VOB files but not necessarily convert them. It is just too complicated for me I guess.
All I really want is to turn all of my Rurouni Kenshin episodes into manageable avi files so that I can burn numerous episodes onto DVD and watch them from my PC. I know I can just put the original DVD in, but that is only 4 episodes per DVD - I'd rather have 10-20 episodes per DVD with japanese audio and english subtitles.
All I really want is to turn all of my Rurouni Kenshin episodes into manageable avi files so that I can burn numerous episodes onto DVD and watch them from my PC. I know I can just put the original DVD in, but that is only 4 episodes per DVD - I'd rather have 10-20 episodes per DVD with japanese audio and english subtitles.
Nazo
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No, I fully understand. I like to do this with my videos as well. It's just pitiful how they encode the videos so that they fit 3 or 4 eps (in some cases only 2!!!) to one single DVD. What ticks me off most about it though is the cost, but, we're stuck there. *sigh* something like 4.3GiB on an el cheapo single layer disc, even more on a dual layer disc and somehow they manage to fit only that number of episodes? It's inconceivable...
What you need is a proper step by step. If it's any help, here's a tutorial: http://web.archive.org/web/20030421161922/http://svcdguide.animeaddiction.net/ The original site appears to be down, so that link points to the internet archive. As you can see by the URL, http://svcdguide.animeaddiction.net/ is the real address, should it work again any time soon.
If you want further help beyond that, I'll try to post something in the appropriate forum for everyone to use, just not right now since it's a lot to type up and I'm working on several things that require my attention atm.
What you need is a proper step by step. If it's any help, here's a tutorial: http://web.archive.org/web/20030421161922/http://svcdguide.animeaddiction.net/ The original site appears to be down, so that link points to the internet archive. As you can see by the URL, http://svcdguide.animeaddiction.net/ is the real address, should it work again any time soon.
If you want further help beyond that, I'll try to post something in the appropriate forum for everyone to use, just not right now since it's a lot to type up and I'm working on several things that require my attention atm.