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wtburnette

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Since the PS3 vs Xbox360 thread was closed, I thought I'd open a new one to discuss console differences. Kind of a catch all thread comparing the differences / pros and cons of each of the current generation of consoles. Hopefully we can keep this thread on topic and open.

Yes, I realize if people search and go through the tons of threads on this topic they can find out all the info they need. For those of us with limited time, I was hoping this thread would offer one place to go for console information. Please do not use this as a place to flame others or bash one console over another. It's just a thread for informational purposes, in case anyone is looking to purchase a new console.

I'm not even a console gamer, but I enjoy knowing the capabilities of each. My son has an Xbox360 that he games on and I have a PS3 I use for media purposes (BluRay and streaming content from my PC). Please post info on the various consoles. What they can and can't do, what games rock and which ones suck and whatever else that's pertinent... ;)
 
There's no need for this thread. There's 3 types of gamers. You're either a 360 fanboi who thinks halo rox and ps3 is teh sux or you like both PS3 and 360, but prefer PS3. And there are some who don't care either way as long as the games are good.
 
bigdogchris said:
There's no need for this thread. There's 3 types of gamers. You're either a 360 fanboi who thinks halo rox and ps3 is teh sux or you like both PS3 and 360, but prefer PS3. And there are some who don't care either way as long as the games are good.
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o_O

There's a few more shades of grey than that.
 
wtburnette said:
My son has an Xbox360 that he games on and I have a PS3 I use for media purposes (BluRay and streaming content from my PC). Please post info on the various consoles.
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Well there you go. You get a PS3 if you want a media player and BD box that happens to also play the 360's table scraps, I mean games. You get the XB360 if you're a hardcore gamer or 12 years old, and you just want to trash talk people on Live all day. If you feel uncomfortable holding a controller and want to pretend to be one of the cool kids, you get a Wii. (Or, if you have money to spare and you really can't live without Mario/Metroid/Zelda.)

I'm surprised someone hasn't made a basic three-panel comic on this yet.
 
Okay folks, this isn't quite what I meant. I was hoping people would post some pros and cons of each instead of just being funny. Seriously, the PS3 vs Xbox360 thread had some great info and discussion until people came in bashing the thread and got it closed.
 
Always been a hardcore pc gamer, but bought a 360 during the holidays 6 months ago, pretty much haven't touched my PC for gaming since. Not that anything is wrong with the PC, but most my friends can't afford upgrading their PC all the time, so they all play consoles, and the only way to game with them was to buy a 360. I'm contemplating buying a PS3 just for the new Metal Gear Solid, and I'm sure there would be some other games down the road. I can't live without Solid Snake, and one thing that sold me on a 360 awhile back was the rumor of MGS coming to the 360, and also I wanted GTA4 :p

Really seems like a personal preference, so basically get the system your friends have to play with them, or get both :)
 
ps3

no rpg's fucking lame
everything is delayed fucking lame
little content fucking lame
sony fucking lame

xbox 360

30% failure rate fucking lame
hot and loud fucking lame
stupid fucking name fucking lame
FPS is about your only option fucking lame
Microsoft fucking lame

Wii

hardware fucking lame
too expensive for what you get fucking lame
wiimote doesn't come with numbchuck fucking lame
wii elbow fucking lame



They all suck balls and are competing with each other on who can suck the hardest nuttestikul.

3do>jaguar>32x>virtual boy>wii>ps3>xbox360

I think this is what OP is looking for
 
bigdogchris said:
There's no need for this thread. There's 3 types of gamers. You're either a 360 fanboi who thinks halo rox and ps3 is teh sux or you like both PS3 and 360, but prefer PS3. And there are some who don't care either way as long as the games are good.
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oh sigh
 
I was trying to be funny with my last post but ok, seriously.

1) PS3: I bought this originally as a BD player. The fact that I could, theoretically, play cool games later was the deal-sealer since they were expensive originally. The PS3 remains the most expensive game console I've ever bought (and I used to lust after NeoGeo gear, so I know expensive).

As a media player it's top class. Slick interface, easy-to-use wireless controllers and RF remote. Easy display adjustments. I actually love it's on-screen menu for movie playback. Games are OK, nothing I've been blown away by being a PC gamer. I've only seen maybe 5 games for PS3 I wanted to really play. There's nothing on the console I've seen that I've said I really must buy, until GTA4. Everything else has been rental fodder, and even then, nothing really seems to be deep and exciting about the PS3's library. I haven't tried Drake's Fortune yet. Games are far too expensive. $60 for 20 hours of play is not a good value. The BD disc format for games thus far seems to be a needless addition, though realistically it should add only a dollar or less to the production cost per unit.

Do I care about the marvelous cell processor? No. I just want good looking and great-playing games on my screen. Even though I dislike Sony greatly as a mega-corporation for their evil practices, I have to admit they scored a direct hit here. They created a console that is functional, slick, and offers usability above and beyond that of a mere games console, recognizing the fact that at this price point, it had better damn well do more than play "Sonic" for $600. Did they perhaps over-reach with their given price point? Most likely. But it still offers solid value for the money, if you can afford it. However other consoles are not necessarily that much cheaper.

The PS3 has spent most of it's gaming time playing PS2 games (20GB model). It's been great for that, though I guess new buyers won't have that advantage. As a unit, it's large, heavy, and runs very hot. Fan noise is moderate to low.

This is the console Dad would buy because he wants a BD player, and he justifies it by saying that it was really a console for the kids.

2) Wii: I admit I bought this because I was a lemming. I've always been a bit of a Nintendork at heart, and I can't live without Mario and Metroid and my favorite sword-swinging elf. It only took about a week for the shine to wear off the Wii. The graphics suck, the controller is straight out of the original NES. The range on the sensor bar stinks. The game selection, once you move out of the traditional first-party N staples, is atrocious. The games are slightly cheaper on the average, aside from the occasional joke where someone prices the Wii version at $59 to match the 360/PS3 ports.

Of all the consoles, I must admit the Wii spends the most time being turned on, because I still have a bunch of Gamecube games to play though as I missed that generation of console. The GC controller is light years ahead of the wiimote. This is a fun console to play once in a while with friends, but this is never going to satisfy someone who really wants to game on a regular, continual basis. Every part of it screams "hype" and fad, and it makes me feel like I did buying Pokemon gear back in the day. But you can't fault the big N for being marketing geniuses.

I have more games for this unit than any other, mostly because the GC games are $10 each, and the Wii games used are like $30.

This is the console mom buys because "the whole family" can play, and it looks nice.

3) XBox360: I am a lifetime gamer. I was gaming before there were controllers (well, kind of). I was a huge fan of the original XBox. But the RROD 'scandal' kept me cold on the 360. I only bought one a couple months ago. Even still, the only game I have for it is Halo 3, because it was on sale, and until recently I would always love to pick up a game of Halo2. I think the 360 is an example of how you can fail even when you do everything right. Gamer reception seems to be cold, based on console cost, reliability, and perceived value, doubly so when you factor in accessories that are clearly marked up, such as the hard drive. The 360 library seems to be a delight for preteens and teens, with bold, violent FPS games as a staple. There is very little you see advertised that connects with older and slower gamers, the way the PS2 did with RPGs and Japanese-style imports.

Live seems to be the Big Thing here, with achievements, trash talk, and competitive online play. Again, we're targeting you, 12-18yo market. I suppose MMOs and online team play should be my thing, but even in the days of doom deathmatching via direct modem connect, you had a certain limit of how many times you could do stupid things and tolerate jihad-style, immature players. Those who couldn't tolerate it moved to paintball.

As a media center, the 360 seems praised by everyone inside Microsoft, and scorned or ignored by everyone else. DVD playback is mediocre. The interface is slick, but to me serves as little more than one big interactive advertisement for MS's online services. Perhaps this is why the unit does so poorly in Asia... it's all about flash, cash, and promoting yourself over others via achievements and gaining some kind of Microsoft fan club badge with all your MS accessories and OS tie-ins.

The console itself is well rounded. The design looks nice on the shelf, even if it does take up a bit more space than the original xbox. The fan is loud, the drive is louder. The overall build quality on my Elite is disappointing, with cheap, off-colored plastic, fake trim, and a controller that doesn't even include a rechargeable battery pack (which MS offers for $12 extra, natch). The XB360 experience feels like going to the cinema. The tickets are high but acceptable, but when you get to the concessions stand you may as well have gotten mugged on the way there. Then, you get advertisements before you even get to see the show you paid for.

But that's beside the point. This is a games console, even though you'd almost miss it if you weren't looking for it. It has the largest stable of next-gen, interesting games, though most seem to be focused on FPS team shooters. Software cost is high, for no particular reason. Sony can at least pretend that the BD discs are expensive to make. MS has no such cover story.

To this date, about a month and a half later, I still have not played a single game on my 360. I was looking forward to Gears, Halo3, Lost Planet, and that zombie game, but at the moment I'm in the mood for slower, more adventuresome games, like Metroid Prime. The 360 fails at this, to me. Sure, I have to have one just to play some of these console-exclusive games, but aside from that kind of marketing trickery, the console offers little to make itself worth the money.

This is the console that little Johnny gets for christmas because he whined like hell for it, and he already has an iPod, a $300 phone, and a dresser full of designer t-shirts. It's also the console 20-something nerds bought because they thought, no foul on them, that MS was not full of marketing hype when the console was first released.

4) Summary.

Visually, both the PS3 and 360 fall noticeably behind even a $800 'value' gaming rig, though the cost of both consoles combined would be the same price. The Wii, being the weird cousin of the bunch, would be a massive failure to me were it not for it's perfect backwards compatibility with GC games. For $199, I can appreciate the Wii as a Mario games box only. For $250 and standing in line at midnight? No thanks.

The PS3 and 360 both are poor deals to a non-hardcore-gamer. The console costs multiplied by inflationary game cost, and the hidden gotcha costs of the 360 make me feel more used and manipulated than at any other time in gaming. Meanwhile, the graphics improvement, while noticeable, is far less than what we were promised before the goods were delivered. No console is a total win, unless you look at the PS3 as something besides a game console, oddly.

Thus far, with $20 PC games being commonplace on sale, even for titles like Company of Heroes, the PC is the true winner in this competition, if you can absorb the high step-in costs. I'm not truly satisfied with gaming on any "next-gen" console.

The only reason to buy any of the next gen games, to me, is because your last-gen consoles broke, or you have money to burn, or you're 12 years old and you MUST trash talk your friends on Live. Whenever I talk to younger gamers, that's pretty much all I hear, they just want to go on Live. The games are secondary. The impacts of technology and what other features the consoles offer is secondary.
 
If you have a good PC then I really dont see the point of a 360. The only good game the 360 has that isnt on PC right now is GTA4, and that game is also on PS3 with better graphics. The PS3 has MGS4 which will never be on the PC or 360 even if they wanted to port it since its so massively huge. It will also get Little Big Planet which looks great, if the ICO developers are working on something then that will be great too like usual.

The 360 does have a lot of games, but barely any of them are exclusive. If you dont have a good PC for games then a 360 is a good choice, probably better than the PS3, if you do then owning a 360 seems pretty redundant. I cant think of a single good game for 360 that is 100% exclusive. The biggest benifet you get from the 360 is the multiplayer functionality, which is the undisputed king.

The Wii is clearly the ultimate party console. Almost every singleplayer game for it is horrible garbage because of all the shovelware, but it has some games that are perfect for parties.

I would go $250 geforce + PS3, and for party people a Wii is a neccessity. The PS3 has sucked for a long time but this is the PS3's year to shine. Cost isnt an issue, the premium 360 with Live costs the same as a 40gb PS3.
 
idividebyzero said:
I cant think of a single good game for 360 that is 100% exclusive.
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You're not trying very hard.

That aside, for me XBLA has been the best thing to happen to gaming in a long, long time. Sure, there's a lot of crap on there but I own more than 20 quality titles which I can pick up and play for short periods whenever. I think if it wasn't for that (and to a lesser extent Wiiware and PSN) then I'd likely be quitting gaming because I don't have the time to get the most out of retail titles these days.

I still say these threads are useless though (other than for fanboys to stealth sell their consoles). You'll most likely be happy with whatever you pick up as this is by far one of the most balanced generations we've ever had in gaming.
 
Psychotext said:
You're not trying very hard.

That aside, for me XBLA has been the best thing to happen to gaming in a long, long time. Sure, there's a lot of crap on there but I own more than 20 quality titles which I can pick up and play for short periods whenever. I think if it wasn't for that (and to a lesser extent Wiiware and PSN) then I'd likely be quitting gaming because I don't have the time to get the most out of retail titles these days.

I still say these threads are useless though (other than for fanboys to stealth sell their consoles). You'll most likely be happy with whatever you pick up as this is by far one of the most balanced generations we've ever had in gaming.
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Some of my favorite console games ever are on the 360 and not the pc. Dead Rising for example. I'd put that game in my top 5 console games on any console ever. I've probably put in 300 hours in catan and carcassonne with friends over xbl too, just to name a few.

Once it's price cut, I'll pick up a ps3, I really want to play warhawk and see what this metal gear series is all about, having never played any of them.

My wii just sits unused. Even my daughter who loves her gamecube doesn't touch it anymore. She's 4, and at one point just stopped playing wiisports because it bored her. All she does on it (we have like 5 games) is make new mii's.
 
Also, there are some things, seen repeated in this thread, that people seem to just say, even though they are objectively untrue. The most annoying of which is:

The 360 only has shooters.

The 360 has more RPGs than any system. It has more Jrpgs than any system even.

Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, and more announced and on the way than any system, including Infinite Undiscovery. Show me the next gen system with more rpgs...?

It's not about fanboyism, its just facts. The 360 isn't "omg shooters lol" at all, unless you're just plain ignorant and want to ignore shit.

Lest there be chants of "omg fanboy", my gripes with the 360 are long and well documented on this forum:

unreliable and loud being the biggest and most unforgiveable of those issues.

But only an ignoramus spouts the conventional wisdom that "the 360 is all fps!!1", because it's objectively not true.

Anyone who has unblinking loyalty to a large corporation's product is a mindless slave, not an intelligent consumer.
 
Surprisingly the xbox360 has a few exclusive jrpg's that look solid where as of yet the PS3 has none.

it kind of seems like developers are just sitting around waiting for one of the consoles to take the lead or get a larger customer base.
 
idividebyzero said:
well thanks for proving me wrong, I guess I should just take your word for it?
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Oh I'm sorry... shall we start with PGR4, Forza 2, Lost Odyssey, Ninja Gaiden 2, Dead or Alive 4, Dead Rising, Crackdown... and quite a chunk more. Then if you don't want to wait 9 months minimum to play it on a PC you obviously have Mass Effect, Gears, Halo 3, Viva Pinata etc.

That's not including anything that's coming soon or any of the XBLA titles and it's by no means an exhaustive list.
 
Technoob said:
The 360 only has shooters.

The 360 has more RPGs than any system. It has more Jrpgs than any system even.
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That's undoubtedly true because the 360 has more titles than the other next-gen consoles, period. What is annoying is that you'd have to go digging to find them. I don't blame the console for that, I blame the gamer audience. Maybe that isn't fair either, I don't know. Did the 360 make gamers dumber or did it merely make gaming more accessible to the (omg shooterz lol) masses? Probably the latter. In that case, I have to wonder, what made the PS2 seem like such a more 'refined' selection in terms of game variety and form? Wasn't that the previous hot console to have, even such that at least until a few months ago it was still cleaning up after the DS in sales?

Perhaps aside from the TV-eating controller, the Wii may be the needed counterweight to pull gaming away from the high-adrenaline-action perception it is getting. At least, that's my perception of the 360's library, which as you noted, is obviously not correct, yet it's how I feel about it when I think about what to spend money on next.

Even the PC seems to be getting more about cramming ADD-style action into a small package rather than allowing people to figure things out in a more open environment.
 
Psychotext said:
Oh I'm sorry... shall we start with PGR4, Forza 2, Lost Odyssey, Ninja Gaiden 2, Dead or Alive 4, Dead Rising, Crackdown... and quite a chunk more. Then if you don't want to wait 9 months minimum to play it on a PC you obviously have Mass Effect, Gears, Halo 3, Viva Pinata etc.

That's not including anything that's coming soon or any of the XBLA titles and it's by no means an exhaustive list.
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even if you don't like any of these games.......it still has the PS3 beat hands down.

side note eternal sonata is coming to ps3 sometime.

side side note if 360 gets some good Srpg's like Disgea PS3 might have a hard time reclaiming the RPG throne or if Atlus go's fully multi platform. I think square is going to flop big time with FFXIII.....hell it already has by not having it released already.
 
wildfire99 said:
Perhaps aside from the TV-eating controller, the Wii may be the needed counterweight to pull gaming away from the high-adrenaline-action perception it is getting.
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It's funny... the Wii is certainly more of a chill out console. :D
 
Oh I'm sorry... shall we start with PGR4, Forza 2, Lost Odyssey, Ninja Gaiden 2, Dead or Alive 4, Dead Rising, Crackdown... and quite a chunk more. Then if you don't want to wait 9 months minimum to play it on a PC you obviously have Mass Effect, Gears, Halo 3, Viva Pinata etc.

That's not including anything that's coming soon or any of the XBLA titles and it's by no means an exhaustive list.
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Unless you really like racing games I cant imagine buying a system for PGR and Forza. The rest of those games are pretty average, if not bad. Maybe my standards are too high but I cant see any really good exclusive games for 360. Every game I have ever wanted to play on the 360 is out right now on PC. Mass Effect is probably the only one that has lived up to the hype anyways, that game is pretty underrated, Gears of War was a major disapointment.
 
wildfire99 said:
That's undoubtedly true because the 360 has more titles than the other next-gen consoles, period. What is annoying is that you'd have to go digging to find them. I don't blame the console for that, I blame the gamer audience. Maybe that isn't fair either, I don't know. Did the 360 make gamers dumber or did it merely make gaming more accessible to the (omg shooterz lol) masses? Probably the latter. In that case, I have to wonder, what made the PS2 seem like such a more 'refined' selection in terms of game variety and form? Wasn't that the previous hot console to have, even such that at least until a few months ago it was still cleaning up after the DS in sales?

Perhaps aside from the TV-eating controller, the Wii may be the needed counterweight to pull gaming away from the high-adrenaline-action perception it is getting. At least, that's my perception of the 360's library, which as you noted, is obviously not correct, yet it's how I feel about it when I think about what to spend money on next.

Even the PC seems to be getting more about cramming ADD-style action into a small package rather than allowing people to figure things out in a more open environment.
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I think one of the reasons people think of it as the shooter console is misinformation in threads like this. It's an internet meme that xbox = lolshooters. Like I said before, anyone willing to just look at the library would know it isn't true, but perception is reality, in spite of itself.
 
Technoob said:
I think one of the reasons people think of it as the shooter console is misinformation in threads like this. It's an internet meme that xbox = lolshooters. Like I said before, anyone willing to just look at the library would know it isn't true, but perception is reality, in spite of itself.
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I wouldn't go that far.

Xbox360 is known as a shooter console becuase over 50% of the games are shooter games and WAY more than 50% of the fanbase are FPS fans.
 
idividebyzero said:
Unless you really like racing games I cant imagine buying a system for PGR and Forza. The rest of those games are pretty average, if not bad. Maybe my standards are too high but I cant see any really good exclusive games for 360. Every game I have ever wanted to play on the 360 is out right now on PC. Mass Effect is probably the only one that has lived up to the hype anyways, that game is pretty underrated, Gears of War was a major disapointment.
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First you said there were no games, now when there's a list, they're just no good....moving the goalposts much?
 
stevedave said:
I wouldn't go that far.

Xbox360 is known as a shooter console becuase over 50% of the games are shooter games .
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Again, something people just say, that isn't true. Go ahead and list all the ps3 games, and we'll see if a higher percentage of "shooters" exists on that system compared to the 360. Obviously most video games period involve shooting nowadays, but you have zero information to base your statement on other than perception, so you just proved what I've been saying all along in this thread.
 
I said that there were no good exclusive games, and that list doesnt meet my standards for good. I havent changed my stance.
 
ps3: 10 in the top 50 = shooters
360: 10 in the top 50 = shooters

see the metacritic top 50 if you don't believe me. And that's not counting certain games as shooters, and the 360 including games that were released and highly rated before the ps3 came out like the first GRAW, cod2, and a few others.

The idea that "more than half" of the 360's library is a "shooter" is beyond foolish.

but remember kids, perception > facts

and it works both ways. "the ps3 is a good system but has no games" is the equivalent of "the 360 only has shooters". Both stupid and untrue, but persistent.
 
bigdogchris said:
There's no need for this thread. There's 3 types of gamers. You're either a 360 fanboi who thinks halo rox and ps3 is teh sux or you like both PS3 and 360, but prefer PS3. And there are some who don't care either way as long as the games are good.
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You forgot to add: You're an ignorant fool.
 
idividebyzero said:
Unless you really like racing games I cant imagine buying a system for PGR and Forza. The rest of those games are pretty average, if not bad. Maybe my standards are too high but I cant see any really good exclusive games for 360.
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Every game I listed is rated as 80% or above... and there's more there in the 80%+ range (exclusive) than for any other console. But at the end of the day it comes down to your taste, plus the fact you seem to be persuading yourself as much as anything. :p

But then I'm happy with the prospect of owning all of them, and a monster PC so it's largely irrelevant to me.
 
I guess we all make mistakes in our wording like you saying that the 360 has more RPGs than any system when you ment to say 360 has more rpg's than PS3

I meant to say most people own 50% or more FPS and if you look that most top 10 xbox 360 games list usually about half are FPS and there are definitely more fps than any other type. Also the same thing applied to the xbox so the stereotype carried over. I only know 2 people with an xbox 360 and both of them only got the system for Halo 3 so in my eye majority of what I see always rules for me, and apparently other people see it as well.

most sold games wikipedia

Xbox 360 games that have sold one million copies or more. Count the copy of FPS vs any other type and see who comes out on top.

* Halo 3 (8.1 million)[20]
* Gears of War (4.7 million)[21]
* Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (3.172 million approximately: 3.04 million in US,[22] 78,000 in Canada,[23] 53,501 in Japan)[24]
* Grand Theft Auto IV (2.6 million approximately: 1.85 million in US,[25] 750,000 in UK)[26]
* Forza Motorsport 2 (2.274 million approximately: 2.23 million in US,[19] 31,255 in Japan,[24] 12,600 in Canada)[27]
* BioShock (2.2 million shipped, includes PC version)[28]
* Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (2.08 million in US)[19]
* Guitar Hero II (2 million in North America and Western Europe)[29]
* Assassin's Creed (1.985 million approximately: 1.87 million in US,[22] 60,000 in Canada,[23] 55,041 in Japan)[24]
* Madden NFL 07 (1.72 million in US)[19]
* Mass Effect (1.6 million)[20]
* The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (1.562 million approximately: 1.49 million in US,[19] 72,274 in Japan)[24]
* Madden NFL 08 (1.51 million in US)[19]
* Crackdown (1.5 million)[30]
* Perfect Dark Zero (1.5 million)[31]
* Lost Planet: Extreme Condition (1.5 million)[32]
* Call of Duty 2 (1.4 million)[33]
* Dead Rising (1.4 million)[32]
* Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (1.352 million approximately: 1.32 million in US,[19] 32,000 in Canada)[23]
* Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas (1.291 million approximately: 1.27 million in US,[19] 18,592 and 2,731 Platinum Collection version in Japan)[24]
* Call of Duty 3 (1.234 million approximately: 1.22 million in US,[19] 14,194 in Japan)[24]
* Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (1.211 million approximately: 1.2 million in US,[34] 8,903 and 1,622 Platinum Collection version in Japan)[24]
* Fight Night Round 3 (1.15 million in US)[19]
* Dead or Alive 4 (1 million)[35]
* The Orange Box (at least 1 million)[36]
* Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 (1 million)[37]
* Uno (1 million)[38]
* Saints Row (978,593 approximately: 960,000 in US,[19] 18,593 in Japan;[24] 1.4 million shipped)[39]
 
no one plays fighting games anymore? like Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive, Virtua Fighter, Super Smash Bros. (sorta), etc...that's part of the reason you might choose a certain console, since you can't play them on pc.
 
Now this is more like it. Lots of good info here.

I especially like this from wildfire99, summarizing the PS3:

wildfire99 said:
This is the console Dad would buy because he wants a BD player, and he justifies it by saying that it was really a console for the kids.
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Almost completely sums up why I got the PS3. Actually, I bought it for the media capabilities and to see if I like any of the games. Thus far I haven't even bothered to play a single game, but I watch DVD and BR movies on it all the time, plus stream music and photos to it from my PC all the time. It compliments my new HDTV very nicely... :D
 
Technoob said:
The 360 has more RPGs than any system. It has more Jrpgs than any system even.

Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, and more announced and on the way than any system, including Infinite Undiscovery. Show me the next gen system with more rpgs...?
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That's only three Jrpgs compared to PS3's one.

And no, there is not more announced on the 360 than on the PS3. You shouldn't count unreleased games because things like that can change before release (like Eternal Sonata or Last Remnant going cross platform for example).

If you WERE to include upcoming PS3 JRPGs:

Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
Makai Wars
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Rengoku
Sunrise Eiyuutan
Shin Megami Tensei RPG
The Last Remnant
Star Ocean 4
Valkyria Chronicles
Steambot Chronicles 2
White Knight Story
X Edge

And I only included two cross platform titles (Last Remnant and Star Ocean, there are more).

Hudson Soft, Konami, Namco, and tri-Cresendo also all have untitled JRPGs coming for the PS3 as well.

So I'm wondering what JRPG list for the 360 would exceed that (even if it did, there's still games I can't think of at the moment that are missing from that list).

If you were to count handhelds, the DS has everyone beat by a stupid margin, followed by the PSP. The 360 and PS3 don't even compare.
 
stevedave said:
I think square is going to flop big time with FFXIII.....hell it already has by not having it released already.
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...because big titles like GTA IV (originally early Fall '07) or Halo 3 (originally near-launch title) or MGS4 (also originally near-launch title) or TF2 (yeah... I'll not go into how long that was delayed) or pretty much every single Blizzard release ever except WC3:Frozen Throne (Blizzard actually admitted it was the very first time they've released something on-time) certainly suffered from being incredibly delayed.
 
Psychotext said:
Most of those don't even have release dates do they?
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Depends, all those with names have at least quarterly dates for Japan (most have pretty solid dates), only a few have solid dates for N. America (Disgaea 3 is actually already out for Japan, August release for N. America, assuming nothing catastrophic happens in the localization process).

Good luck Europe.
 
Neurofreeze said:
Depends, all those with names have at least quarterly dates for Japan
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I think the internet would love to know the dates of Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, The Last Remnant, Star Ocean 4 (Not even confirmed that the PS3 is getting this yet) and White Knight Story.

...because right now no-one outside of the companies developing these games has a clue when they're hitting. I can't speak for the other games as I've never heard of them.
 
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