Considering an AMD upgrade

[StupidDream]

i am considering upgrading my current CPU (i7 2600k @ 4.6) to a Ryzen 1700. I figure an oc to 3.8 or 4.0 would be easy

I figured I would need ddr4 8gb x 2, and a motherboard that can handle at least 8x/8x crossfire

On a side note I’m picking up an EVGA clc 240 today for $40

Any reasons I should not go down this path? Any reason I should consider something else?

 

[ManofGod]

Go with a Ryzen R5 2600, 2600X, Ryzen R7 2700 or 2700X. The 1700 is a good chip in its own right but, the Ryzen 2xxx processors overclock better and have better IPC.

As for the mainboard, a Asrock Taichi X470 or an Asus Crosshair VII X470 board will do you fine. Not the cheapest but the best for the price. Make sure the ram is on the QVL list or that it at least is marked as AMD compatible.

 

[sirmonkey1985]

if you don't desperately need 16 threads and budget is an issue i'd actually look at the 2600x over the 1700.. precision boost 2 is way better and will basically let you run at or near 4Ghz when you're not using all 12 threads without needing to manually overclock. as far as motherboards i'd look at x470's but you have to read up on the pciex16 slots because they vary from board to board and manufacture to manufacture.. some have pcie 3.0 8x/8x some do some where pcie 3.0 x8/pcie 2.0 x4 shit or have them split between slot 1 and slot 3 while slot 2 is neutered to hell since it shares lanes with m.2/stata etc.

 

[tangoseal]

With the zen plus chips with an X at the end they can use Precision Boost 2 which actually overclocked better than manual in almost all cases. Non X cant use PBoost.

I have a 2950x and 2600x and both use PBO and perform stellar in gaming and multi threaded.

 

[sirmonkey1985]

With the zen plus chips with an X at the end they can use Precision Boost 2 which actually overclocked better than manual in almost all cases. Non X cant use PBoost.

I have a 2950x and 2600x and both use PBO and perform stellar in gaming and multi threaded.

PBO =/= precision boost 2.. PBO is added on top of PB2. there is no difference between the 2600 and 2600x feature set besides clocks, both have PB2 and XFR2.. as far as PBO goes it all depends on whether your motherboard manufacture supports it because it was never an implemented feature by AMD for am4. they instead dropped it right before release and used it for threadripper but some manufactures still kept the support in their bios.

 

[tangoseal]

PBO =/= precision boost 2.. PBO is added on top of PB2. there is no difference between the 2600 and 2600x feature set besides clocks, both have PB2 and XFR2.. as far as PBO goes it all depends on whether your motherboard manufacture supports it because it was never an implemented feature by AMD for am4. they instead dropped it right before release and used it for threadripper but some manufactures still kept the support in their bios.

I thought non X couldn't use auto overclocking. AMD is confusing as shit with all this pbo bullshit.

 

[sirmonkey1985]

I thought non X couldn't use auto overclocking. AMD is confusing as shit with all this pbo bullshit.

it's not confusing at all, lol.. PBO was a "future feature" for AM4 that never ended up seeing the official day of light until threadripper released but still never officially was supported on am4. just so happened that ASUS left the options in their am4 bios for it so msi and asrock added it to their bios later on.(not sure if gigabyte did as well since i don't really follow their stuff)

but the easiest way to explain it in my opinion is how nvidia gpu's work.. PB2 + XFR2(standard feature on all zen+ cpu's) basically equals nvidia's standard boost feature on their GPU's.. enabling PBO is similar to increasing the power limit from say 100% to 125% allowing the boost and gpu voltage to exceed what it could do at 100%. doesn't mean it will due to other other potential limitations but the ability for it to exceed it is an option without having to do any manual overclocking. (in all honesty explaining it this way is the only way i've gotten anyone to ever understand how it works which is kinda sad)

now whether or not non X series support or don't support PBO i have no clue and quite frankly there's no real point in using it on am4 chips since it doesn't really do anything unlike threadripper where it's officially supported and does show some benefit if you have the cooling.

fyi the only difference between X series zen and non X series zen(first gen ryzen cpu's) was XFR support. AMD nix that idea because it created way to much confusion which is why all zen+ have XFR2. they instead decided to lower base clocks further on non X zen+ to differentiate the cpu's more.