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starhawk

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not sure that this belongs here (whoever is moderating will surely move it where it belongs instead of deleting it, i hope) but...

i have been thinking about building the thinnest p4 comp possible (think 1.25" at the most) keep in mind that this would be a desktop, flat and either wide or long.

i am trying to figure out why someone would want such a computer so as to sell my mother on it (i plan right now on making two and selling one to pay for the other) before anyone asks, i will post pics... this summer at the earliest, unless someone wants to donate parts for a $1500 comp.
 
case is going to be 2024 t3 aluminum bent, drilled and tapped by me and enameled black. i think i will be going for a sort of borg look here.

Edit: :eek: y0w that aluminum is insanely expensive. f*** that. it's now gonna be all lexan. 1/8" should be strong enough long as nobody tries to sit on it.

Edit2: this means i will be cutting a few special holes in the rear to fit the i/o stuff w/o making the whole thing 1.5" tall.
 
not unless you can think of a way to get one to lie horizontally on a free tech f154 mobo.

check it out at servercase... they are the only carriers of that board that i know of.

btw, where can i get a dc-dc converter and external 100w psu w/o hacking a case?
 
i am also trying to come up with a name for this thing but i have been unsuccessful so far.

any ideas would be appreciated.
 
You'll have a hard time building a computer that thin. 1U computers are the thinnest PC's I've seen and they're 1.75" tall. Even then, there are some cooling issues. They tend to use a lot of small fans (40mm or blowers), which are really noisey due to high RPM's and tons of turbulance.

Any thinner than 1U and you'll have problems fitting a heatsink/fan, not to mention memory.
 
case is gonna be made of 1/8" polycarbonate plastic from online metals.

case screws are frozencpu 8mm acrylic corner cube screws. i will also buy the cubes so as to use them in my own case via hacking them up and plenty of testor's modeling glue.
 
OKANG said:
You'll have a hard time building a computer that thin. 1U computers are the thinnest PC's I've seen and they're 1.75" tall. Even then, there are some cooling issues. They tend to use a lot of small fans (40mm or blowers), which are really noisey due to high RPM's and tons of turbulance.

Any thinner than 1U and you'll have problems fitting a heatsink/fan, not to mention memory.
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ever heard of the ys tech high speed 60mm fan? 40cfm of see-yo-@$$-goodbye to heat.

and the heatsink is gonna be for an 80mm fan but with a vantec 120mm lo profile fan attached to the case directly above it. hehe, let's see that get hot.

i will also be using either a p4 3.06ghz proc or a celeron 3ghz.
 
directron's samsung mp0804h 80gb 2.5" hdd is the hard drive for this thing; their ts-l462 slim combo drive is gonna be the one here too.

for once i am forgoing the floppy.
 
Hey, you can check out the Opus power supplies.
150Watt link

Very expensive, ($219.00), but that's all I can think of for DC-DC unless you want to get some sort of inverter :D

Also, Opus has a 90 Watt DC-DC. Considerably cheaper at $159.00
90Watt Link
 
starhawk said:
ever heard of the ys tech high speed 60mm fan? 40cfm of see-yo-@$$-goodbye to heat.

and the heatsink is gonna be for an 80mm fan but with a vantec 120mm lo profile fan attached to the case directly above it. hehe, let's see that get hot.

i will also be using either a p4 3.06ghz proc or a celeron 3ghz.
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Any links to those low profile fans? I'd love so see some :D
 
starhawk said:
ever heard of the ys tech high speed 60mm fan? 40cfm of see-yo-@$$-goodbye to heat.

and the heatsink is gonna be for an 80mm fan but with a vantec 120mm lo profile fan attached to the case directly above it. hehe, let's see that get hot.

i will also be using either a p4 3.06ghz proc or a celeron 3ghz.
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The thinnest 120mm fan is 25mm, which is .98". That would leave you .27" to cram a heatsink, processor, and mobo between the fan and bottom of the case. I don't see it happening. At that clearance, the 120mm fan is big enough to start hitting capacitors and other surface-mount components. More power to you if it works out. I'll definately need some pics to believe it though.
 
I don't think 2" is that hard
Hell, you can just use a passive heatsink
 
OKANG said:
The thinnest 120mm fan is 25mm, which is .98". That would leave you .27" to cram a heatsink, processor, and mobo between the fan and bottom of the case. I don't see it happening. At that clearance, the 120mm fan is big enough to start hitting capacitors and other surface-mount components. More power to you if it works out. I'll definately need some pics to believe it though.
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:-@ OH HELL. f*** that then. also the fan i planned on using is actually 80mm.

anyone else have any brilliant ideas for cooling something in as small a space as possible?
 
CoRPS said:
I don't think 2" is that hard
Hell, you can just use a passive heatsink
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(1) thinnest computer possible. i can do thinner than 2", tho, incidentally, it was indeed a 2" case that sent me on this idea.
(2) passive heatsink? on a celeron or p4? *snort of utter, abysmal disgust* it'd need it's own area code and chamber of commerce.
 
idea: remember the thread i did about flat lighting? i hinted at a future mod. i think this will be that mod.

the mod is to base a computer on the kadish tolesa age in uru. i have come to refer to this as the "myst mod" because uru is one of the games in the myst series.

this comp has to be uber cheap cuz i have less than $100 right now and mom is playing ebenezer scrooge's sister.

Edit: i will be rather pyst (pardon the pun pleez) if someone snatches this myst mod out from under me... i have yet to hear of one and i'd like to do the first.
 
i am looking for pyctures to show you of some stuff i want to base this thing on... will be a whyle (plz forgive the 'y' puns again)

Edit: will upload them soon.
 
I don't think you can do much on a $100 budget, even for a 486....but hey....what do I know. though if you do it right..you could use alluminum for the Top, and make the ENTIRE top of the case a passive heatsink...just an idea
 
i'm trying to sell my mom on the thing. if i can, then she will provide me with ~$1000-1500

keep in mind her first comp was an $80 zx-80 kit so for her any computer over $1000 is ridiculously expensive. mom is as geeky as a neanderthal... she only realized that her wireless keyboard had batteries in it when i told her.
 
$1000 Is ALOT better then $100, like 10 times better and stuff. ^_^ Anyways, what things are you trying to sell her on..I mean what will it take to convince her? And to tell you the truth, I know of atleast ONE Geeky Neandrethal...Brandon Freasier from "Encino Man"
 
i would have to make it practical in some manner... she does not think like a geek, i.e. if it is not at least as practical as aesthetic it is a waste. the concept of style modding is totally lost on her.
 
first three inspirational pics... or not.

dr3vil is refusing to upload them.

will investigate.
 
3rd set of 3:

http://www.nicoritschel.com/freehosting/userfiles/starhawk/Inner Pyramid 1.jpg

note the tree image in the lower-to-middle right corner... that will be a logo on the front, minus the hexagon... perhaps 2" would be better after all, hehe.

http://www.nicoritschel.com/freehosting/userfiles/starhawk/Kadish Tolesa Icons.JPG

i am thinking of having these wrapped around the sides of the comp.

http://www.nicoritschel.com/freehosting/userfiles/starhawk/Kadish Tolesa Logo.JPG

this is actually a possible logo for the kadish tolesa age. i don't know where i'll be using it, but i think i will somewhere.
 
starhawk, no offense man but this isn't a chatroom. Don't post like a billion times :p

As for a heatsink, you can use a 1U server heatsink, here's a llink
That thing is only 10mm high, definately small enough IMO.

1 millimeter = 0.0393700787 inches
10 millimeter = 0.393700787 inches

So, yeah, I think you will have plenty of room :D
 
starhawk said:
8< Snip >8
Edit: i will be rather pyst (pardon the pun pleez) if someone snatches this myst mod out from under me... i have yet to hear of one and i'd like to do the first.
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Modding small sized computers is nothing new.

www.MP3Car.com
People mod computers to fit in DIN radio spaces, much smaller then what you're planning. Sorry to burst your bubble
;)
 
CoRPS said:
starhawk, no offense man but this isn't a chatroom. Don't post like a billion times :p
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unlike you folks out there with actual lives, i have nothing better to do. i am not the kind to socialize, and i do not have anything else to do. if you don't like it, you don't have to pay me any attention.

CoRPS said:
As for a heatsink, you can use a 1U server heatsink, here's a llink
That thing is only 10mm high, definately small enough IMO.

1 millimeter = 0.0393700787 inches
10 millimeter = 0.393700787 inches

So, yeah, I think you will have plenty of room :D
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yeah, but i want to put in a 3.06ghz proc... and that can't handle anything above a 2.0ghz proc.
 
CoRPS said:
Modding small sized computers is nothing new.

www.MP3Car.com
People mod computers to fit in DIN radio spaces, much smaller then what you're planning. Sorry to burst your bubble
;)
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:rolleyes: i meant the part about a myst themed mod, not the idea of a mini comp.

and good luck fitting in a comp that's smaller than 1.25". the rear i/o stuff is gonna make this a real squeeze.
 
starhawk said:
8< SNIP >8
yeah, but i want to put in a 3.06ghz proc... and that can't handle anything above a 2.0ghz proc.
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Like you, I have nothing else better to do, all I'm asking is that instead of posting a reply every 5 seconds, just edit one of them and add onto it. Didn't mean to come off as a dick, I just know I'm not the only one who is slightly annoyed by you posting every minute or so :D. Like I said, no offense. I do want to help you with your project, since in fact, I would liek to make a small little PC as well, sine I have a spare 533MHz laying around.

Good luck :D
yeah, but i want to put in a 3.06ghz proc... and that can't handle anything above a 2.0ghz proc.
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I was just giving you an idea of how small they CAN get, you may have to look around a little to find one t fit your needs.
 
:D wh00ps.

if you want i can pm you a couple hints toward making your comp, tho i'd need to know what proc you are using (sounds like a p1 or amd k6)
 
Do you have AIM? I won't be making this case anytime soon, as I'm kind of focused on two projects right now. 1. Finish my damn CarPC 2. Start my damn MOD! :D
 
i am LeoCH64 on aim.

i'll go ahead and sign in... start a whiteboard w/ me and we'll see about this thing.
 
my aim thing is crap. it only accepts people under 2 conditions. (1) is that i have an email address for them, (2) is that they have a .net passport.

i really don't know why this is, or why nobody else has that prob.

it's really no fun tho.
 
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