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computer on 24.7?

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xdviper

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heh, you can see my comp in my the sig, i have a good psu i think it came with the computer, and its been living for 4 years. ok, i know a lot of people probably asked this, but is it okay to leave my computer on 24.7? a lot of people do this but they put their computer on sleep. so should i do this? any suggestions?
 
think it is better just to keep it on. [i think it to be better for the hdd] and when your not using it you should be folding;)
 
= upgrade++ burn old system

just kidding, should be ok, as long as it is stable = 12++ hours of prime or use BBSs testing method, im sure he'll be along soon to link the thread soon.:D :D
 
COMPAQ PRESARIO 7360
AMD K6 500MHZ
256MB RAM
2 WD 7200RPM 20GB JB 8MB HD
8MB ONBORAD VIDEO CARD
WINDOWS XP PRO WITHOUT SP1
AND LOGITECH INTERNET KEYBORAD
US ROBTICS 56K (AOL)

Mine is:
K6-2 500 + Asus P5A
128MB RAM
8G WD 5400rpm HD
WinME

I run mine 24/7 with BT on. However, sometimes ME crashes and I have to restart. :(
What amazes me is that you run WinXP!? :eek:
How smooth is it on your machine? If you're doing fine then I might purchase some more RAM and upgrade. ;)
 
I run my machines 24/7. Only problem that I have had was after 2-3 years of being on constantly, one of my old hard drives wouldn't spin back up when I powered up the system. This was back in 95-97 when I was running a Dial up FTP server on my NT4 machine with a Pentium 200mmx. I was upgrading the NICS so I powered down, put in the new NICS powered up and the drive wouldn't do anything.
 
Mine is on all the time. Only time it goes down is when I am putting in a new kernel or I am moving the computer. I am also under full load all the time due to dnet. Current uptime:

00:01:14 up 6 days, 8:13, 1 user, load average: 1.16, 1.14, 1.10

Reason it is only 6 days is because I'm home on spring break and I brought my computer. I've thought about leaving the computer plugged into the ups, taking it down to the car and plugging it in to my inverter to bring it home. Won't lose my uptime and I will still be able to bring it home.
 
all the time baby. no suspend after 20 minutes crap either. i should be seeing longer uptimes between reboots since i just did a fresh install. i've had to reboot several times recently since i've been installing all my software and updates and what not though.
 
my longest uptime that I recorded was this,
uptime.jpg

I've had them on longer, just never took notice or took a screen cap.
 
I leave all mine on 24/7. Back in the old days it was the prefered method when solder joints weren't as good as we usually have now, the expansion and contraction from heating up and cooling down had a tendency to pop soldier joints over time, and ball bearing hard drives experienced a majority of their wear and tear when they were spun up. It's not as much of a issue nowadays as it was then, but old habbits die hard and it wont hurt anything to leave machines on 24/7 except cost a couple more bucks a month for electricity. Suspend mode is really close to doing a shutdown, so you may as well turn it off instead of putting the computer to sleep.
 
Originally posted by Electroe

Mine is:
K6-2 500 + Asus P5A
128MB RAM
8G WD 5400rpm HD
WinME

I run mine 24/7 with BT on. However, sometimes ME crashes and I have to restart. :(
What amazes me is that you run WinXP!? :eek:
How smooth is it on your machine? If you're doing fine then I might purchase some more RAM and upgrade. ;)
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heh, don't act so surprised when WinME crashes...;)

His machine would run XP OK (not really great), but I'd suggest you wait until you can upgrade the whole computer...you'd want a bigger hard drive and more RAM, and it's a perfect excuse to upgrade.
Now, if you can borrow/steal some RAM from someone else...
 
xp runs like shit on this shitpaq. i can barely surf the web. so, lets say that the powersluppy dies on this shit, its only 145watt. where the hell am i going to find the 145watt. they dont sell it anywhere.:confused:
 
Originally posted by xdviper
xp runs like shit on this shitpaq. i can barely surf the web. so, lets say that the powersluppy dies on this shit, its only 145watt. where the hell am i going to find the 145watt. they dont sell it anywhere.:confused:
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also, I'll bet you $10 it's proprietary.
 
While I generally turn my laptop off due to the fact its always fluctuating within its delicate balance of heating and cooling (it is a laptop) at night, my desktop is on 24/7. I only turn it off when I'm out of town for more than a few days, or when I'm upgrading, replacing, tinkering or cleaning the dusk filters.

I also turned it off recently because in one of the other apartments in the building they were renovating and had a compressor or something that was just destroying my electricity. My UPS was activating every 20 seconds so I just decided to shut everything down (our internet was down at the time too).
 
Keeping it on shouldnt be a problem, and in some cases, its best.
 
that reminds me... my 2 longest uptimes
dell500.GIF

just a dc cruncher, 500 mhz p2 dell, nothin special really

pii450.GIF

(taken just now) my 450 mhz p2 gateway, setiqueue server/dc cruncher. not that special either i suppose.

also, my linux server (which those pics are on) has been up for 53 days, no screenie. that's actually the longest it's been up. it's still relatively new. there have been some power outages, though it's on a ups, just not a very big one, and i recompiled the kernel once
 
my music server is on 24/7, longest uptime is well over 200 days. just goes off if the power goes out.
 
If it weren't for power outages my systems would be on nonstop for a very long time. I just checked my one system which is an overclocked P4 running SETI. It has been up since the last power outage being 68 days ago.
 
this is just my local windows machines (not my router/firewall (running redhat 5!)


C:\>uptimewindows
\\asus-p4c800e has been up for: 55 day(s), 14 hour(s), 12 minute(s), 5 second(s)
\\dualp3 has been up for: 55 day(s), 15 hour(s), 3 minute(s), 47 second(s)
\\dualxeon450svr has been up for: 55 day(s), 15 hour(s), 49 minute(s), 19 second(s)
\\PP-DLW20 has been up for: 55 day(s), 14 hour(s), 42 minute(s), 3 second(s)
\\p4-p4b533engsml has been up for: 55 day(s), 14 hour(s), 21 minute(s), 51 second(s)
\\tyandualmp2100 has been up for: 55 day(s), 13 hour(s), 53 minute(s), 44 second(s)
\\water2k has been up for: 55 day(s), 13 hour(s), 42 minute(s), 3 second(s)



you can see that i needed to bring up the server first :D but all of them are running win2k (or 2kserver on dualxeon450svr and tyandualmp2100) the asus-p4c800e has XP pro on it.

you can leave you machines up 24.7 with out any problems, just make sure you fold
 
Originally posted by dagamore
this is just my local windows machines (not my router/firewall (running redhat 5!)


C:\>uptimewindows
\\asus-p4c800e has been up for: 55 day(s), 14 hour(s), 12 minute(s), 5 second(s)
\\dualp3 has been up for: 55 day(s), 15 hour(s), 3 minute(s), 47 second(s)
\\dualxeon450svr has been up for: 55 day(s), 15 hour(s), 49 minute(s), 19 second(s)
\\PP-DLW20 has been up for: 55 day(s), 14 hour(s), 42 minute(s), 3 second(s)
\\p4-p4b533engsml has been up for: 55 day(s), 14 hour(s), 21 minute(s), 51 second(s)
\\tyandualmp2100 has been up for: 55 day(s), 13 hour(s), 53 minute(s), 44 second(s)
\\water2k has been up for: 55 day(s), 13 hour(s), 42 minute(s), 3 second(s)



you can see that i needed to bring up the server first :D but all of them are running win2k (or 2kserver on dualxeon450svr and tyandualmp2100) the asus-p4c800e has XP pro on it.

you can leave you machines up 24.7 with out any problems, just make sure you fold
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what do you guys mean when you say "fold":confused:
 
What are proteins and why do they "fold"? Proteins are biology's workhorses -- its "nanomachines." Before proteins can carry out their biochemical function, they remarkably assemble themselves, or "fold." The process of protein folding, while critical and fundamental to virtually all of biology, remains a mystery. Moreover, perhaps not surprisingly, when proteins do not fold correctly (i.e. "misfold"), there can be serious effects, including many well known diseases, such as Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, and Parkinson's disease.

What does Folding@Home do? Folding@Home is a distributed computing project which studies protein folding, misfolding, aggregation, and related diseases. We use novel computational methods and large scale distributed computing, to simulate timescales thousands to millions of times longer than previously achieved. This has allowed us to simulate folding for the first time, and to now direct our approach to examine folding related disease.


shamlessly ripped from the stanford site found here.
http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/

[H]ardOCP has a folding team (number 33)
i fold for team 2CPU (team 3074) more info on folding can be found at the following links.
http://www.hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=32
http://forums.2cpu.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=18


it just somethign to do with your systems when you are not using them, that is helping the rest of the world, another thing you can do is seti (but there are no little green men so dont ;) )


Daga More
 
on when needed, off when not.
electricity costs money.
no problems with hardware since 1985:D
 
But what do you guys do with your comps when they are on? you must doing something with them right? like downloading or running programs? using them as servers?

I only have mine on when I need to, about 8 to 10 hours a day, and I realy don't do that much even then :)
 
I have my desktop on 24/7 running apache and ftp server

my shuttle is only on when I use it.
 
folding 24/7 in the winter, but not in the hot summer. its still on though, often with torrents running
 
i leave mine on 24/7 to fold.

however, i DO turn off the monitor and speakers when i'm not there.

since I have Windows, i end up restarting maybe once every day or two. (but i do a soft restart, so i only restart windows, not the hardware).

i pretty much only end up turning off after a storm or some such.
 
Originally posted by Carnival Forces
since I have Windows, i end up restarting maybe once every day or two. (but i do a soft restart, so i only restart windows, not the hardware).
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That's not since you have windows, that's "since you did something wrong."

What version of windows you running?
 
Originally posted by jpmkm
Reason it is only 6 days is because I'm home on spring break and I brought my computer. I've thought about leaving the computer plugged into the ups, taking it down to the car and plugging it in to my inverter to bring it home. Won't lose my uptime and I will still be able to bring it home.
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One question, why? Wouldn't it be slightly easier to just shut it down? I doubt you have a program running that can never be turned off. Does how many days the computer has been running really matter to you that much...?
 
Originally posted by RS3RS
One question, why? Wouldn't it be slightly easier to just shut it down? I doubt you have a program running that can never be turned off. Does how many days the computer has been running really matter to you that much...?
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No particular reason other than just to do it. I'm probably never going to actually do it, but I have thought about it.
 
Originally posted by emorphien
That's not since you have windows, that's "since you did something wrong."

What version of windows you running?
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ahh i don't think so

i have Win98 First Edition :D on an old (6 or 7 yr) Dell (pII; 320MB (i upgraded it)SD-RAM; nVidia Riva128/128ZX; some 9.40 GB HDD)

i don't think playing a game (such as Brood War or DiabloIILoD) constitutes "doing somethign wrong"

however, after i exit the game, frequently icons on my Desktop will be err switched

for instance, one thing (it's a *.vbs script named "Memory", it scrubs the memory) that normally looks like a scroll, will end up looking like the IE icon, or my Spybot S&D icon :rolleyes:

so it's not critical, persay, for me to restart, but that bugs me, so i do :D
 
Originally posted by emorphien
Well no wonder, you're running Win 98. :D
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LOL, yep, so "since i'm running Win98..." might have been better than "since i'm runnin Windows..."
 
Originally posted by jpmkm
No particular reason other than just to do it. I'm probably never going to actually do it, but I have thought about it.
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That's cool, can't blame you for it. Nothing wrong with doing something to just be doing it, I was just wondering. :p
 
I leave mine up as long as possbile, cant be wasting that processor by not folding. if your not folding then you should be check out hardfolding .com to get borged into it. save life. improve lives, all in your spare cycles.
 
Let me tell you a little story.
A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away.... umm wait.....
A short time ago, in a room not so far away, My PSU shorted, and sent a power spike to my PC.

This PSU failure was a result of a few combined issues.

Issue 1: Over ussage. Resulted mostly from leaving the machine on all the time.

Issue 2: Dust. Covered alot of the internals on the PSU causing issue 3.

Issue 3: Heat. It most likley failed because it overheated.

The point is, and I asked A professional about it, and he said that I would have never happened If I did 2 things, Turn off my computer every now and again to let things cool down, and Cleaned out the dust from the PSU. He then examined the PSU and saw that there was a slight defect in one of the many soder connections in the unit, and said that probally it got too hot and shorted out causing the death of the PSU and the power spike to my PC.

Just for fun, heres the damage it caused.

1 Bad PSU
2 Bad Mainboard/Motherboard Gigabyte 7VIA-AXP
3 Bad Harddrive Maxtor 120 Gig 7200RPM w/ very important info on it
4 Bad Video Card ATI 9700 Pro

It made me sad and mad.

My Suggestion would be to turn off the computer when you are not using it or don't intend to use in within a couple of hours from the last time you use it. Leave it on only to Render, being video, 3D, whatever. or when your downloading, otherwise there is no benefit from leaving it on, so turn it off, you'll save on electric any how, that monitor sucks up mad juice.

=P
 
Originally posted by pistola
This PSU failure was a result of a few combined issues.

Issue 1: Over ussage. Resulted mostly from leaving the machine on all the time.

Issue 2: Dust. Covered alot of the internals on the PSU causing issue 3.

Issue 3: Heat. It most likley failed because it overheated.
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Well your professional is right about cleaning it out, but leaving it on all the time isn't the sole reason that happened. As you have learned dust may have been the killer.

I've got #2 and 3 covered because my 3 intake fans are filtered and I only have two fans blowing out. I've got a positive pressure in the case so air isn't getting sucked in every crack between the optical drives and between case panels.

I have to clean the filters (duh) but there's no dust inside so no excess heats or shorts due to dust. I routinely have MBM open just to make sure its all running smoothly (I put it on my 2nd monitor).

If you don't have filters be prepared to do a cleaning once in a while (once a month isn't bad)
 
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