Computer Crashing Constantly

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Dudeyourlame

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Ok this looks like the right forum..

this is an ongoing problem and my specs are :

Windows Xp Service pack 1 with all updates
Direct X 9.0 C

Msi K8N Neo 2, AMD Athlon 64 3500, E-Vga 6800 Gt, Ocz Pc-3500, 4 hard drives, Fsp PowerSource 500.

Ok my computer crashes on the desktop, randomly all the time ( 1 to 2 times a day, Can Be hard Resets..and Blue screens of death x_X)

and in games

Battlefield 2 is hard to even get a game without it crashing
Counter Strike Source crashes saying i ran out of memory or an error has occrured

what i have done to try to fix this already
1) got a new psu ( old one wasn't powerful enough)
2) Defragmented all 4 hard drives
3) Updated Bios ( from 1.3 to 1.8) ( Ms-7025 is Mobo name)
4) loosened timings to 2.5-4-4-8 2T ( it was at 2.5-3-3-8 1T)
5) Updated Nforce Drivers, and Nvidia drivers
6) Set Ram speed to 166 lock and stuck my pc 2700 in from old computer .. i wouldnt boot in any slot with Pc-2700
7) Reinstalled windows
8)Tryed running Games at lower settings and still crashed



So can i conclude its the ram or is there something im missing .. like can a sound card be messed up and fubar everything?

I have no money so its looking bleak.. id have to beg my parents to buy me new ram and i dont think they would let me get that Fancy of ram :eek:
 
K, to begin.

1) Have you tried going into safe mode? Do you have the same problem?
2) How long have you had this problem? Have you tried booting in single channel? Tried reseating all the components in your computer? Have you attempted using the 71.89 drivers? It's recognized that the 77.30 and 77.72 drivers are causing problems for some users.
3) Have you tried running Prime95 and memtest86 off of the Ultimate Boot CD? Those will allow you to ascertain if you have a problem with either the CPU or memory.
4) What are your voltages like in the BIOS? Are they hopping around at all?
5) You SHOULD have some PC 3200 in that mobo - that may be the source of your problems, but I'm not confident of that. If you have to get some new RAM, just get some valueline Mushkin, Corsair, OCZ, or other reputable company.

 
DamienThorn said:
K, to begin.

1) Have you tried going into safe mode? Do you have the same problem?
2) How long have you had this problem? Have you tried booting in single channel? Tried reseating all the components in your computer? Have you attempted using the 71.89 drivers? It's recognized that the 77.30 and 77.72 drivers are causing problems for some users.
3) Have you tried running Prime95 and memtest86 off of the Ultimate Boot CD? Those will allow you to ascertain if you have a problem with either the CPU or memory.
4) What are your voltages like in the BIOS? Are they hopping around at all?
5) You SHOULD have some PC 3200 in that mobo - that may be the source of your problems, but I'm not confident of that. If you have to get some new RAM, just get some valueline Mushkin, Corsair, OCZ, or other reputable company.

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1) havent done safe mode.. never thought that would do anything ..besides not like i can play games in safe mode
2) Ive had this problem for a while and that was back when i had 71.89 .. and i do a drivercleaner before each driver isntall so its all clean and i cannot get mobo to boot with memory in any slot but 3 and 4 ( dual chanel Enabled)
3) I ran prime 95 before.. i cant recall if it was failing it or not and memtest ran 4 times thru with no errors..but was a while ago too
4) voltages stay consistent.. theres no sudden highs or lows or anything ( after looking at it for 10 minutes that is)
5) Ocz's site says that PC-3500 works with my mobo

Im going to Try Prime 95 now..after i play counter strike source ( might use old computer if it acts up )
 
I suggest that you check out safe mode simply to see if you can get it to crash on you. If it does crash, then there is a different series of troubleshooting steps that I'll recommend than if it does not crash in safe mode.

 
Can you lower the memory timings and/or increase the memory voltage? RAM tends to throw a hissy fit when you don't feed it enough.
 
LstOfTheBrunnenG said:
Can you lower the memory timings and/or increase the memory voltage? RAM tends to throw a hissy fit when you don't feed it enough.
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ill give it .1 more volts its at stock 2.8 or whatever it is
 
do u keep an eye on ur temperatuers?? u may be gettin restarts from the temps. being too high...try reapplying thermal paste and reseating the heatsink...and make sure theres good airflow in ur case
 
heatsink is cool to touch and is at 97 F which is roughly 36 C

and i upped voltage to 2.8.. i have a fan over ram anyways
 
Try resetting the BIOS, that may solve some dramas. Otherwise, you may still have a RAM or mobo problem, but thats a guess. Try booting into Safe Mode and see if that gives you any errors. Its not the games were trying to test here, its to see if booting into Windows. If it doesn't, we can all but guarantee that its the RAM, mobo or CPU. Games stress the system, and may cause heat failures and the like.

Also make sure you have enough power to run the system, and make sure all the power cables to the mobo and devices are attached properly, especially the video card. It may sound weird, but if they aren't plugged in properly you can have problems like blue screens and lockups.
 
i looked up the numbers on the error thing 0x0 .. forgot the rest of the numbers and it came up with nothing so i didn't bother posting it


I have ran Memtest 86 Version 3.2
It has passed 5 Times and failed 0 .. im going to let it run another hour and half tho

then ill do prime 95 ..several of those tests



( btw i took the Dial up modem and the Firewire card i had in there, Both of which i dont really use)
 
I don't think anyone has mentioned this but have you ran a virus scan or checked for any adware/malware on the system? They can cause some serious problems such as crashes and lockups etc.

How much RAM do you have in that thing? I guess it's possibly you could be running out on some of the games but in most cases wouldn't cause crashes.

Are you doing anything specific around the times the system crashes. Launching programs? Coming back to the computer from being away for a while? Kicking on the air conditioner which happens to be on the same circuit?
 
Anarchist4000 said:
I don't think anyone has mentioned this but have you ran a virus scan or checked for any adware/malware on the system? They can cause some serious problems such as crashes and lockups etc.

How much RAM do you have in that thing? I guess it's possibly you could be running out on some of the games but in most cases wouldn't cause crashes.

Are you doing anything specific around the times the system crashes. Launching programs? Coming back to the computer from being away for a while? Kicking on the air conditioner which happens to be on the same circuit?
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well this happened on a fresh install as well.. but ill scan anyways ( Adaware and Norton 2005)

I Came back from Vacation .. which was 1 week,, but I had this problem before vacation too

sometimes it crashes when im opening Itunes or Firefox
and Air conditionner is not on same cuircit.. our house is split into several sections on the Circuit Breaker

AND also i have 1 gigabyte and a 1536 meg Page file
 
run memtest for a minimum of 24 hours, trust me...

I would also be suspicious of your power supply. Check your voltages and see if they are within specs and verfify that they stay within specs when your putting your pc under load. Hell, they're cheap. Swap it out and see if the problems continue.

I would also be suspicious that your heat sink was cool to the touch. That sucker should at least be a little warm. You may want to think about taking it off, cleaning it, and re-appling some nice Arctic Silver 5 to ensure you are getting a solid thermal connection between the chip and the Heat Sink.

have you run a thorough scan disk on your dirves. Check for physical errors that could be corrupting your page file area and causing your system to crap out.

Check all your fans, especially the one on the video card. It can be easy to overlook and can cause all kinds of shitty stability problems when it is dying.


Good luck
 
I would update to service pack 2.

Any machines that have issues like this, I automatically suspect malware/virus/trojan.

Any machine that is not patched to SP2 is vunerable to attack as soon as it connects to the net (except, of course if you have a hardware firewall).

Do that, and see what happens.

Please note... if SP2 errors out on install, it most likely means you do have a serious infestation-- these programs will prevent scanning, going to certain anti-virus websites, etc.

This is the easiest and cheapest solution to your dilemma. Check it out! The worst that can happen is you waste 20 minutes of your time.

-Skystalker
 
I actaully Uninstalled Sp2 and many problems went away

LIKE the Newegg ad's on the site hogging cpu went away

ut2004 doesnt hard crash when i try to exit it .. besides what do i have to protect myself for.. SOMEONE IS GOING TO STEAL MUSIC THAT ISNT MINE OH SNAP :rolleyes:



but yea .. ill install sp2 if you strongly suggest i should
 
Dudeyourlame said:
I actaully Uninstalled Sp2 and many problems went away

.. besides what do i have to protect myself for..
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For the rest of us. :p

Since you’ve scanned for virus and malware, it’s a good time to put SP2 on.

gl :)
 
Dudeyourlame said:
I actaully Uninstalled Sp2 and many problems went away

LIKE the Newegg ad's on the site hogging cpu went away

ut2004 doesnt hard crash when i try to exit it .. besides what do i have to protect myself for.. SOMEONE IS GOING TO STEAL MUSIC THAT ISNT MINE OH SNAP :rolleyes:



but yea .. ill install sp2 if you strongly suggest i should
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SP2 is very useful - it has a host of security updates, which increases stability. You should install it - it does a computer good.

 
DamienThorn said:
SP2 is very useful - it has a host of security updates, which increases stability. You should install it - it does a computer good.

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alrite i installed sp2 ..havent rebooted..having fun watching people cuss eachother out on aim chat :p
 
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