Computer Build Decisions, Two diff Paths? Help

Kaolinchemist said:
Zach,

Thanks for input, some people have said that overclocking will make the computer components die faster due to increased heat. Is there any truth to this because I NEED to keep my new computer for at least 4 years, more likely 5. If OC'ing would shorten the life even with adequate airflow I may stay away and go with stock speed.
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Most pc's have a life of about 15-20 years. If o/c'ing shorten this life to sy, half, you'd get 7.5 to 10 years out of your o/c'd pc. Not sure about you, but I upgrade several times in that amount of years.
 
Thrust said:
Most pc's have a life of about 15-20 years. If o/c'ing shorten this life to sy, half, you'd get 7.5 to 10 years out of your o/c'd pc. Not sure about you, but I upgrade several times in that amount of years.
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That's being really optimistic. It would be kind of like saying my Pentium 233 that I bought back in 1994 (Pentiums, I believe, debuted in 1993) can still run the most basic software that's out today...it can't. The architecture simply doesn't allow for that much of an upgrade.

With the pace that technology--and software development--is moving, I'd give a system a lifespan of 5 years before you're looking at absolutely HAVING to upgrade or trade-up. With extreme overclocking (voltages ramped up to exceed spec, for instance), you're going to be lucky if you get three years out of the system before looking at replacing major components. Modest overclocks fare much better in the long run.

Moore's Law gives a general rule of thumb, but either way, it's a crazy, expensive world for those of us who try to keep on the bleeding edge of technology.
 
Heather Taylor said:
That's being really optimistic. It would be kind of like saying my Pentium 233 that I bought back in 1994 (Pentiums, I believe, debuted in 1993) can still run the most basic software that's out today...it can't. The architecture simply doesn't allow for that much of an upgrade.

With the pace that technology--and software development--is moving, I'd give a system a lifespan of 5 years before you're looking at absolutely HAVING to upgrade or trade-up. With extreme overclocking (voltages ramped up to exceed spec, for instance), you're going to be lucky if you get three years out of the system before looking at replacing major components. Modest overclocks fare much better in the long run.

Moore's Law gives a general rule of thumb, but either way, it's a crazy, expensive world for those of us who try to keep on the bleeding edge of technology.
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I'd have to disagree. I've got several pc's that are older than 5 years running most software just fine today. "Absolutely HAVE" to upgrade every 5 years?? naw, "Recommend" sure, but not a must. I was more referring to the life of a pc as it pertains to it's life, not it's ability to perform stacked against brand new pc's. And I'd be willing to bet that old 233 of yours would still be working just fine if you still had it.
 
Kaolinchemist said:
Back to my ORIGINAL post, what are your thoughts on:

1) EVGA 9600GT SSC 740 Mhz

or

2) EVGA 8800GT Superclocked 650MHz

They are $7 difference between the two and do not know if I should go for newer card or the older 8800GT.

Help!
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Okay but how bout the EVGA 9600GT SSC or the EVGA 8800GTX ? Would the 8800GTX be a big enough upgrade to warrant the extra $$$.???

Thanks in advance!
 
I will get a quad core.I dnt think the impact is much different and extra cores are always worth it:D
 
Thanks for input Audio,

I am leaning towards the 8800GTX instead of the 9600 GT SSC for now. From what I gather the 8800GTX is a much better card. I will keep looking because this is really my last build decision before I order.

This is what my Lastest decisions have led to:

INTEL, Core™ 2 Duo E8400 Dual-Core, 3.0GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 6MB L2 Cache, 45nm, 65W, EM64T EIST VT XD, Retail
SERVICE, Do Not Overclock
ABIT, IP35 Pro, LGA775, Intel P35, 1333MHz FSB, DDR2-800 8GB/4, PCIe x16 /2, SATA 3.0 Gbit/s RAID /6, HDA, GbLAN /2, FW /2, ATX, Retail
G.SKILL, 8GB (4 x 2GB) PC2-6400 DDR2 800MHz CL5 (5-5-5-15) SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC
eVGA, e-GeForce 8800 GTX 575MHz, 768MB DDR3 1.8MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, 2x DVI, HDTV/S-Video/Composite Out, Retail
SEAGATE, 320GB Barracuda 7200.10, SATA II 300MB/s, 7200-RPM, 16MB cache
SEAGATE, 500GB Barracuda 7200.10, SATA II 300MB/s, 7200-RPM, 16MB cache
RAID, No RAID, Independent HDD Drives
MITSUMI, Black Internal 1.44MB 3.5" Floppy Drive
LITE-ON, LH-20A1S Black/White 20x DVD±RW Dual-Layer Burner, SATA, Retail
LITE-ON, LH-20A1S Black/White 20x DVD±RW Dual-Layer Burner, SATA, Retail
COOLERMASTER, CM Stacker 830 Evolution (RC-830) Black Tower Case, EATX, No PSU, Aluminum, SLI Certified
CASE FAN, NON-LED, Fans Maximum Package, Low Noise
CUSTOM WIRING, Standard Wiring with Round Cables
PC POWER & COOLING, Silencer® 750W Quad (Black) Power Supply, 24-pin ATX12V EPS12V, Single +12V Rail, Quad SLI Ready
MICROSOFT, Windows Vista Ultimate Edition 64-bit, OEM
SERVICE, OEM System Recovery (both secure HDD partition and bootable CD/DVD)
SERVICE, System Binder
GAMING PC, Platinum Warranty Package (5 Year Limited Parts & Lifetime Labor Warranty, Express/Priority Service)
SERVICE, Standard Shipping (UPS, DHL, or Fedex

I decided to bump up the RAM to 8GB since I finally got over my Vista fears and decided to go with Ultimate 64bit.

As for WHY the floppy, from what I read here in the forum, flashing BIOS via Floppy is still one of the better ways. Other than that I will never use it and I already have an External multi card reader.

Now for the financing of my new rig :)
 
Looks good, Kaolinchemist. The 8800GTX is still the best single card, IMO, especially at high resolutions.

The only thing you might want to tweak are the hard drives. You could ask Misha or Joe if they are carrying the new WD Caviar SE 16 drives with the 320GB platters. Those are almost as fast as Raptors.
 
Okay boys and womenz,

First, Thanks to everyone here for their suggestions!!! :)

Secondly Thanks to Joe Mundy of Avadirect for putting up with all my annoying questions for the last 3-4 weeks.

I have Finally pulled the trigger after asking ten million questions. SO here is the FINAL ORDER. Should be here in ~2-4 weeks. Could I have improved in some of my selections sure, but I figured I would always second guess whatever build I made.

I decided to bump up RAM to 8GB since I decided to jump in the 64bit Vista waters, is it overkill, I do a good bit of Photo & Video stuff as well so maybe not.

Also I decided to get the 9800GTX instead of the 8800 GTX just because its newer and doesn't seem to run as hot.


GAMING PC, Core 2 DDR2 Gaming System

INTEL, Core™ 2 Duo E8400 Dual-Core, 3.0GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 6MB L2 Cache, 45nm, 65W, EM64T EIST VT XD, Retail

SERVICE, Do Not Overclock

ABIT, IP35 Pro, LGA775, Intel P35, 1333MHz FSB, DDR2-800 8GB/4, PCIe x16 /2, SATA 3.0 Gbit/s RAID /6, HDA, GbLAN /2, FW /2, ATX, Retail

G.SKILL, 8GB (4 x 2GB) PC2-6400 DDR2 800MHz CL5 (5-5-5-15) SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC

eVGA, e-GeForce® 9800 GTX 675MHz, 512MB GDDR3 2200MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, DVI /2, HDTV/S-Video Out, Retail

SEAGATE, 320GB Barracuda 7200.10, SATA II 300MB/s, 7200-RPM, 16MB cache

SEAGATE, 500GB Barracuda 7200.10, SATA II 300MB/s, 7200-RPM, 16MB cache

RAID, No RAID, Independent HDD Drives

MITSUMI, Black Internal 1.44MB 3.5" Floppy Drive

LITE-ON, LH-20A1S Black/White 20x DVD±RW Dual-Layer Burner, SATA, Retail

LITE-ON, LH-20A1S Black/White 20x DVD±RW Dual-Layer Burner, SATA, Retail

COOLERMASTER, CM Stacker 830 Evolution (RC-830) Black Tower Case, EATX, No PSU, Aluminum, SLI Certified

CASE FAN, NON-LED, Fans Maximum Package, Low Noise

CUSTOM WIRING, Standard Wiring with Round Cables

PC POWER & COOLING, Silencer® 750W Quad (Black) Power Supply, 24-pin ATX12V EPS12V, Single +12V Rail, Quad SLI Ready

MICROSOFT, Windows Vista Ultimate Edition 64-bit, OEM

SERVICE, OEM System Recovery (both secure HDD partition and bootable CD/DVD)

SERVICE, System Binder

GAMING PC, Gold Warranty Package (3 Year Limited Parts & Lifetime Labor Warranty, Express/Priority Service)

SERVICE, Standard Shipping (UPS, DHL, or Fedex

So hopefully it will be here in May.

Thanks again :)
 
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