COD2, I don't get it...

illgiveumorality · Jan 1, 2006

I played the demo on my friend's computer, he has a dell xps gen 2 with a radeon 9800 xt and a gig of ram. The settings are maxed, and it ran just as good as the original. Also it's at 1280x1024 with 4xaa an 8xaf
My other friend who runs 3000+ 64 AMD with an x800xl is doing the same thing and he says it runs great, while he owns the full game.
Why isn't it working great for anyone else?

Lord_Exodia · Jan 1, 2006

illgiveumorality said:
I played the demo on my friend's computer, he has a dell xps gen 2 with a radeon 9800 xt and a gig of ram. The settings are maxed, and it ran just as good as the original. Also it's at 1280x1024 with 4xaa an 8xaf
My other friend who runs 3000+ 64 AMD with an x800xl is doing the same thing and he says it runs great, while he owns the full game.
Why isn't it working great for anyone else?

Are you saying it doesn't run great for you on your rig? It runs good on mine. I updated to the dual core fix mostly for intel but I haven't had a crash since. Otherwise without the patch you have to set the affinity to disable 1 cpu or your system will crash more than lindsay lohan.

texuspete00 · Jan 1, 2006

The game plays really well to some people even when the frames are low. The game in particular iss not that sensitive to frame rate for some people. Put fraps on, if that 9800XT is getting >25fps avg it's isn't in DX9 mode even.

Zidoas · Jan 1, 2006

probably because most people here run games on resolutions higher than 1600x1200

just a guses though. I don't own these games.

SSlaytanic · Jan 1, 2006

Those are all ATI cards

, hence my post in another thread: "CoD2 naturally runs medocre on nvidia because the developers focused more on the X360 version which uses an ATI chipset."

Also, it's because there are more NV owners here than ATI. It can also factor differently with the rez, but it's mostly because of the reason i said above.

You would need a super duper high end PC with a NV card to run CoD2 smoothly.

heatlesssun · Jan 1, 2006

Not sure why you asking this question. CoD2 is a pretty demanding game. I'm kinda suprised that the rigs you mentioned were considered great for running the game maxed at 1280x1024 4aa/8af. I tried running the game at similar settings on an Athlon 64 3400+ S754,1 GB RAM DDR333,6800GT system, and the my comfort zone was around 1024x768 4aa/8af. Going up to 1200x1024 seemed a little sluggish. Maybe there not running in DX9 mode.

Now with my sig rig, buttery smooth at 1600x1200 4aa/16ax max settings. Looks tons better at that resolution. I think it looks better than the Xbox 360 at these settings.

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Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe Motherboard
Athlon 64 X2 4800+
2GB Corsair 3500LL Pro Memmory
2x BFG 7800 GTX 512 OC in SLI
3x Maxtor DiamondMax10 300GB HDD in RAID-0
2x hp dvd740 DVD Writer optical drive | 1x Mitsumi FA404M 7-in-1 USB 2.0 card reader and floppy drive
Antec P180 case
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Samsung SyncMaster 213T 21" 1600x1200 LCD Monitor

illgiveumorality · Jan 1, 2006

SSlaytanic said:
Those are all ATI cards , hence my post in another thread: "CoD2 naturally runs medocre on nvidia because the developers focused more on the X360 version which uses an ATI chipset."

Also, it's because there are more NV owners here than ATI. It can also factor differently with the rez, but it's mostly because of the reason i said above.

You would need a super duper high end PC with a NV card to run CoD2 smoothly.

Ahh, makes sense.

I don't even play it on my rig, I'm a mac man

It's true, for that game I don't look for pure fps, but it sure does look like it's running at around 60fps for the most part; at that point you can tell because it's like the whole game sped up.

Thanks for quick answers guys

Light1984 · Jan 1, 2006

heatlesssun said:
Not sure why you asking this question. CoD2 is a pretty demanding game. I'm kinda suprised that the rigs you mentioned were considered great for running the game maxed at 1280x1024 4aa/8af. I tried running the game at similar settings on an Athlon 64 3400+ S754,1 GB RAM DDR333,6800GT system, and the my comfort zone was around 1024x768 4aa/8af. Going up to 1200x1024 seemed a little sluggish. Maybe there not running in DX9 mode.

Now with my sig rig, buttery smooth at 1600x1200 4aa/16ax max settings. Looks tons better at that resolution. I think it looks better than the Xbox 360 at these settings.

_____________________________________________________________
Windows Media Center 2005
Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe Motherboard
Athlon 64 X2 4800+
2GB Corsair 3500LL Pro Memmory
2x BFG 7800 GTX 512 OC in SLI
3x Maxtor DiamondMax10 300GB HDD in RAID-0
2x hp dvd740 DVD Writer optical drive | 1x Mitsumi FA404M 7-in-1 USB 2.0 card reader and floppy drive
Antec P180 case
Enermax EG851AX-VH 660W Power Supply
Samsung SyncMaster 213T 21" 1600x1200 LCD Monitor

Youre kidding me, it runs great on your rig? damn, i would have never guessed that... huh

haha.. very nice rig though, congrats on the dual 512s

~GoaT~ · Jan 2, 2006

if you're playing it online then lower the dx level to 8.1 or 8, and this may sound crazy to some of you, but 7 and put it on high. When you're playing games like that online do you notice the amazing graphics? Probably not, and if you do then you're not playing the game for the gameplay, but rather the graphics.

osalcido · Jan 2, 2006

im selling my 6800GS soon because im sick of the slowdowns in multiplayer

even at 1024x768 dx7!

i turn everything off to get rid of the slowdowns but even the slightest slowdown i do notice a difference (usually because its when a player is shooting at you or youre trying to shoot at someone else that the slowdown starts)

also does anyone think the sm3.0 variation that ATi uses is actually faster than the full blown sm3.0 on nvidia cards?

if so... i may just get the X1800XL instead of the 7800GT....

rob2000 · Jan 2, 2006

well its not all video dependant, if you have a weak cpu it dont matter much what video card you get cause its bottlenecked..

i dont know what system you have, but i know my xp2800 is due for retirement as soon as i get the rest of my components in my rig.

the demo for cod2 crashed on me several times and did weird stuff on my 6600 gt. but was able to finish it.

i think it looks great on a 360 on a regular tv, cant wait to see it on a hdtv

ewb302 · Jan 2, 2006

I'm hoping it runs well on my computer. I got COD2 for Christmas, but have yet to install it. I realized I never finished UO, and I have a thing about moving on to the sequel when I have the original unfinished on my computer. I just pieced this computer together for fun, and for pretty cheap. COD:UO runs seriously fast on 1600x1200, all high settings. I love having a decent computer to play games on now.

I will probably finish UO in the next few days and give COD2 a shot. I enjoyed the demo, and the COD series in general for that matter, so I don't think I'll be disappointed.

air2k5 · Jan 2, 2006

heatlesssun said:
Not sure why you asking this question. CoD2 is a pretty demanding game. I'm kinda suprised that the rigs you mentioned were considered great for running the game maxed at 1280x1024 4aa/8af. I tried running the game at similar settings on an Athlon 64 3400+ S754,1 GB RAM DDR333,6800GT system, and the my comfort zone was around 1024x768 4aa/8af. Going up to 1200x1024 seemed a little sluggish. Maybe there not running in DX9 mode.

Now with my sig rig, buttery smooth at 1600x1200 4aa/16ax max settings. Looks tons better at that resolution. I think it looks better than the Xbox 360 at these settings.

He mentioned that it runs just like original. Maybe they are running it on dx7 mode. It is hard for me to get 60fps maxed out on my setup, hardly doubght they can get more on 9800xt.

chinesepiratefood · Jan 2, 2006

SSlaytanic said:
Those are all ATI cards , hence my post in another thread: "CoD2 naturally runs medocre on nvidia because the developers focused more on the X360 version which uses an ATI chipset."

Also, it's because there are more NV owners here than ATI. It can also factor differently with the rez, but it's mostly because of the reason i said above.

You would need a super duper high end PC with a NV card to run CoD2 smoothly.

no, dont listen to this guy, he knows nothing

If you are running the settings you say with a 9800XT I GUARENTEE YOU ARE IN DX 7 MODE

chinesepiratefood · Jan 2, 2006

ewb302 said:
I'm hoping it runs well on my computer. I got COD2 for Christmas, but have yet to install it. I realized I never finished UO, and I have a thing about moving on to the sequel when I have the original unfinished on my computer. I just pieced this computer together for fun, and for pretty cheap. COD:UO runs seriously fast on 1600x1200, all high settings. I love having a decent computer to play games on now.

I will probably finish UO in the next few days and give COD2 a shot. I enjoyed the demo, and the COD series in general for that matter, so I don't think I'll be disappointed.

COD2 can be played 100% without having to know anything that went on in the previous

chinesepiratefood · Jan 2, 2006

osalcido said:
im selling my 6800GS soon because im sick of the slowdowns in multiplayer

even at 1024x768 dx7!

i turn everything off to get rid of the slowdowns but even the slightest slowdown i do notice a difference (usually because its when a player is shooting at you or youre trying to shoot at someone else that the slowdown starts)

also does anyone think the sm3.0 variation that ATi uses is actually faster than the full blown sm3.0 on nvidia cards?

if so... i may just get the X1800XL instead of the 7800GT....

There is no difference, if you cant play it 1024x768 in DX 7 something is serisously wrong, i can with my regular AGP 6800(1280x1024 with AF/smoke can drop the fps some though)

COD2 does not utilize sm3.0 so this game has nothing to do with it, and no ATI's is not faster, they are equal

rob2000 said:
well its not all video dependant, if you have a weak cpu it dont matter much what video card you get cause its bottlenecked..

i dont know what system you have, but i know my xp2800 is due for retirement as soon as i get the rest of my components in my rig.

the demo for cod2 crashed on me several times and did weird stuff on my 6600 gt. but was able to finish it.

i think it looks great on a 360 on a regular tv, cant wait to see it on a hdtv

actually rob, cod2 is all about the video card, a Pentium 4 2.8 will run with in a couple fps of an FX-57

Just view this chart

That 9800XT isn't worthy of making that list, most of which here struggle at your stated settings

Mayhs · Jan 2, 2006

that chart = kind of wrong...to me anyways...

when i had the game i played it at 1280x1024 with 4aa/8afor 16af with my x850xt pe and i got around 33fps or +...

air2k5 · Jan 2, 2006

Mayhs said:
that chart - kind of wrong...to me anyways...

when i had the game i played it at 1280x1024 with 4aa/8afor 16af with my x850xt pe and i got around 33fps or +...

Keep in mind they are using fx55 or fx57 CPU on those tests.

ewb302 · Jan 2, 2006

chinesepiratefood said:
COD2 can be played 100% without having to know anything that went on in the previous

Of course I know that. I just don't like leaving good games unfinished before moving on to the next.

marcusj3000 · Jan 2, 2006

runs like a champ on my system in sig.

thefordmccord · Jan 3, 2006

osalcido said:
im selling my 6800GS soon because im sick of the slowdowns in multiplayer

even at 1024x768 dx7!

i turn everything off to get rid of the slowdowns but even the slightest slowdown i do notice a difference (usually because its when a player is shooting at you or youre trying to shoot at someone else that the slowdown starts)

also does anyone think the sm3.0 variation that ATi uses is actually faster than the full blown sm3.0 on nvidia cards?

if so... i may just get the X1800XL instead of the 7800GT....

You must have something wrong with your system. COD2 runs great even on my HTCP. It is a PIII 1ghz with a TI4200 @ 1280X720. It is in DX 7 mode with all in games setting turned up and 2X AA and 2X AF. It is hooked to a 52" HDTV by DVI cable.

COD2 does get a little laggy on my system in my sig at 1280X1024 with 2X AA, 4X AF and all in game settings turned up in DX9 mode. When I play on line, I just kick it back to DX7 and it absolutely rocks.

gmkmay · Jan 3, 2006

My x800xt PE clocked at 625/625 was barely able to play the game at 1280x1024 with any AA, and this was on a Venice clocked at 2.75. I'm pretty sure any card prior to the x800 or 6800 defaults to dx8 or 7 due to the numbers I've seen people claim with 9800's.

theseeker · Jan 3, 2006

chinesepiratefood said:
There is no difference, if you cant play it 1024x768 in DX 7 something is serisously wrong, i can with my regular AGP 6800(1280x1024 with AF/smoke can drop the fps some though)

COD2 does not utilize sm3.0 so this game has nothing to do with it, and no ATI's is not faster, they are equal

actually rob, cod2 is all about the video card, a Pentium 4 2.8 will run with in a couple fps of an FX-57

Just view this chart

That 9800XT isn't worthy of making that list, most of which here struggle at your stated settings

Keep in mind that they do not show results for an SLI setup. I run it in 16x12 and in 19x12 with no problems.

headless · Jan 4, 2006

Keep in mind the chart is an AVERAGE framerate. 50fps AVERAGE means under 30 quite often which is in unplayable territory for me. Rig in sig has huge areas of the game @ less than 30fps @ anything higher than 1024x768 w/ 2xaa & 8x anis when everything is set to highest detail.. You guys saying it runs smooth as butter @ >10x7 on your p4 1.8s with 3 year old video hardware are framerate-blind or running things in low detail. I expect 2 gtx 512's would be the only way to get 4xaa/16anis @ >30fps non stop at highest detail settings in this game @ 1600x1200.

ewb302 · Jan 4, 2006

I installed COD2 last night and I am running 1280x1024 with 2x AA and AF enabled in the game menu. Vid card settings are balanced in the ATI control panel. I am getting high 30's, all the way up to 60 fps when playing. It feels smooth as butter to me. Seems like a great game so far. I had an issue at first with the game locking up, but I dropped back some OC settings, and it has been perfect since.

air2k5 · Jan 4, 2006

ewb302 said:
I installed COD2 last night and I am running 1280x1024 with 2x AA and AF enabled in the game menu. Vid card settings are balanced in the ATI control panel. I am getting high 30's, all the way up to 60 fps when playing. It feels smooth as butter to me. Seems like a great game so far. I had an issue at first with the game locking up, but I dropped back some OC settings, and it has been perfect since.

Tell me what Catalyst are you running? I seem to have troubles with 5.13 I think they decrease my performance.

luke51087 · Jan 4, 2006

SSlaytanic said:
Those are all ATI cards , hence my post in another thread: "CoD2 naturally runs medocre on nvidia because the developers focused more on the X360 version which uses an ATI chipset."

Also, it's because there are more NV owners here than ATI. It can also factor differently with the rez, but it's mostly because of the reason i said above.

You would need a super duper high end PC with a NV card to run CoD2 smoothly.

Didnt know this game was meant for ATI when it has OPTIMIZE FOR SLI in the options. Runs great on max out settings on my SLI 7800GTs and a 3500+ venice with 1gb dc

air2k5 · Jan 4, 2006

luke51087 said:
Didnt know this game was meant for ATI when it has OPTIMIZE FOR SLI in the options. Runs great on max out settings on my SLI 7800GTs and a 3500+ venice with 1gb dc

They guy does not know what he is talking about, COD2 runs equally well on Nvidia cards, however the SLI option will only work if your FOrceware is set up properly.

kumquat · Jan 4, 2006

X2 3800+ @ 2.4GHz
6800GS @ 500/1.2

In 1024x768 (I rarely play higher than that as it usually makes the text smaller and I don't like that) with all the goodies, 4xAA and AS, I get 40 fps minimum.

Davenow · Jan 4, 2006

A64 4000+@2.6
2 gigs PC4000 DDR@251mhz
2x 7800GTs in SLI @450/1.1

Runs 1280x1024, full AA and AF, everything maxed including smoke. Looks better than the 360 version.

luke51087 · Jan 4, 2006

air2k5 said:
They guy does not know what he is talking about, COD2 runs equally well on Nvidia cards, however the SLI option will only work if your FOrceware is set up properly.

where you talking i didnt know what i was talking about or what i said about the other guy

air2k5 · Jan 4, 2006

luke51087 said:
where you talking i didnt know what i was talking about or what i said about the other guy

Quoted the wrong person. The guy that said some crap about COD2 being made to run good on ATi cards only.

luke51087 · Jan 4, 2006

o ok yeah COD2 is a great game works good on my comp thats all i know

air2k5 · Jan 4, 2006

luke51087 said:
o ok yeah COD2 is a great game works good on my comp thats all i know

You might actually get few extra FPS on nvidia cards.

Mayhs · Jan 4, 2006

air2k5 said:
You might actually get few extra FPS on nvidia cards.

any specific reasons?

air2k5 · Jan 4, 2006

Mayhs said:
any specific reasons?

By looking at benchies seems like Nvidia cards get a little higher FPS. I do not know exactly why, I hardly doubght it is because of SMS 3.0.

ewb302 · Jan 4, 2006

air2k5 said:
Tell me what Catalyst are you running? I seem to have troubles with 5.13 I think they decrease my performance.

I am using catalyst 5.12 with CP only. Found the link around here somewhere to download the driver with CP. I had some lock up issues at first, but after I reduced my clock speeds a bit, I played for about an hour with no problems.

You should technically be running it better than me I think. My vid card is just a step up, but your CPU and RAM is better. Although I do have the patch for Intel processors

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luke51087 · Jan 4, 2006

From experience i would say i like nvidia drivers better they seem to be more stable then the ATI drivers. I use to have a 9700pro and 800xl and i like the nvidia drivers much more then the catalysts just an opinion

xSnowmaNx · Jan 4, 2006

osalcido said:
i turn everything off to get rid of the slowdowns but even the slightest slowdown i do notice a difference (usually because its when a player is shooting at you or youre trying to shoot at someone else that the slowdown starts)

Have you been running EAX? Even with Audigy 2's, EAX brings MASSIVE slowdowns when people shoot. It isn't so bad when its just a few people, but if you have a shotgun or if maybe 3 people shoot at the same time, it slows down a lot. Just run miles 2d fast.

contaminant · Jan 4, 2006

heatlesssun said:
I think it looks better than the Xbox 360 at these settings.

It should, even my rig looks better than the 360 version and I have an HD TV! Runs silky smooth on my machine IDK all the settings off the top of my head though.

COD2, I don't get it...

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