Christoph Waltz Shills The Galaxy Note 7

steakman1971 said:
Ok, the commercial ind of sucked to me. It didn't really show much of anything about the Note! Isn't that the point?
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Had lunch with some of our higher ranking marketing guys, and it basically boils down to what works in a oversaturated marketing environment.

Quite simply, people are subjected to so many advertisements daily (billboards, radio, TV, internet, non-stop hit with ads), that the biggest challenge in this ocean of advertisement "background noise" is to:
1) Capture the public's attention
2) Convey an emotional response

Now to me that made no sense, as I make buying decisions rationally. What they explained, and this makes sense to me, is that if they started just listing off specs and useful information about the phone in a commercial, you probably wouldn't pay attention in the first place, and even if you did you would have been subjected to so much other marketing that you'd forget if the screen was 5" or 5.5" in size, what the resolution was, what processor it used, what ports it has, etc.

What people are very good at remembering though, is how something or someone made them feel. That's why some people can be mad at Trump, but can't even accurately remember even a single specific thing he did or said that made them mad, other than at some point they experienced a negative emotion and remember that. Its why Jimmy Kimmel can tell Hillary supporters "What do you think about XYZ policy or statement that Hillary made" and they agree enthusiastically, not realizing it is a Trump statement or policy.

So the commercial tries to capture your attention and make you feel good about the Galaxy phone, so next time you remember "Galaxy Phone = Feel Good". And so when you're in store and looking at specs and comparing devices, you will be subconsciously more receptive to the phone you have an emotionally positive memory of.
 
Not having IR is kind of pushing me away from the note line. I love the shit out of my Note 4 and the IR has let my phone replace my remote for my TV. And the relatively sad specs of the Note 7 vs the S7... specifically the battery size is frustrating. It doesn't seem to stand on top like the previous Note generations.
 
Wyodiver said:
Christoph Waltz is actually a great actor. This makes me sad.
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Why? He did it because they came to his agent with a bag of cash, and then he acted a part they paid him to. I would rather see him in a movie than pimping phones but, the commercial was at least hilarious.
 
Ducman69 said:
No offense, but have you ever played any team sports at all? When your team wins, do you not feel proud of your team and recognize that you are part of that team? And when you meet a retired member, you don't feel any kinship? Most people would be proud of their team, even if their team doesn't win, and will work that much harder to make themselves a valuable member of that group and do their very best to help the team succeed. These life lessons are why I think its so important to enroll kids in sports, not just for the exercise. It helps people to stop thinking of themselves only as an individual, since thinking and acting as an individual they are bound to lose at virtually any team game, and start thinking about the team and as part of a unit that is greater than just themselves. That's essentially what nationalism is, is putting your team on a pedestal and rooting for your team even if you're forced to sit on the bench waiting your turn, or rooting for your team after you've retired and done your bit. It feels good and gives some sense of continuity too, knowing that of course you're going to die, but your "team" will keep marching on strong.

It amazes me that some people are able to do mental gymnastics and somehow turn that team spirit into a negativism.

Kinda reminds me of the emo kids that would dress in all black and complain about everything and all the stupid jocks and refuse to cheer with the rest of the school at games. :p
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I knew that argument will come up sooner or later. But being born somewhere is not a team sport. A team sport is played by 10-15 people who all contribute to their achievements. Nationalist pride is just dipping into every achievement ever done by someone whose only relation to you is that they were born within the same piece of land. You don't work together with all your countrymen. Everyone works towards their own goals. You don'T even realise that you're doing the same thing as the liberals. They try to lump everyone into some group, killing the idea of any sort of individualism. You're not an individual you're white, you're priviliged, and you're racist. That's what they tell you. And then you go and say that you're not supposed to be an individual but a nation? And when do you take credit for all the bad things done by your nation? Sure you're only a proud American when talking about positive achievements.5150Joker Said it very well. It's an ego thing, you're bolstering your own ego with achievements that you can somehow find an attachment too.

It's like when your neighbour who you hated all your life is on tv doing something great, that you watch in main square, and you poke the guy next to you to say proudly "That's my neighbour, I lived next to him for 20 years" Like that's supposed to mean something.

The regressive left does guilt by association, you do pride by association.
 
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Ah, the usual racist rants just because. People on the far left and right suck equally. It's basically the same people, though. Just put in different positions.
 
M76 said:
I knew that argument will come up sooner or later. But being born somewhere is not a team sport. A team sport is played by 10-15 people who all contribute to their achievements. Nationalist pride is just dipping into every achievement ever done by someone whose only relation to you is that they were born within the same piece of land. You don't work together with all your countrymen. Everyone works towards their own goals. You don'T even realise that you're doing the same thing as the liberals. They try to lump everyone into some group, killing the idea of any sort of individualism. You're not an individual you're white, you're priviliged, and you're racist. That's what they tell you. And then you go and say that you're not supposed to be an individual but a nation? And when do you take credit for all the bad things done by your nation? Sure you're only a proud American when talking about positive achievements.5150Joker Said it very well. It's an ego thing, you're bolstering your own ego with achievements that you can somehow find an attachment too.

It's like when your neighbour who you hated all your life is on tv doing something great, that you watch in main square, and you poke the guy next to you to say proudly "That's my neighbour, I lived next to him for 20 years" Like that's supposed to mean something.

The regressive left does guilt by association, you do pride by association.
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According to your logic(which seems non existent) let's say you get a 4.0 GPA and you got accepted at Harvard for free, if your parents, family are proud of you it means they are claiming your accolades or achievements if so, you must live a sad pathetic life.
 
Deathroned said:
According to your logic(which seems non existent) let's say you get a 4.0 GPA and you got accepted at Harvard for free, if your parents, family are proud of you it means they are claiming your accolades or achievements if so, you must live a sad pathetic life.
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If they gave you up for adoption at the age of a few months then, they have no right to take pride in your GPA. If not, they raised you, they taught you your values, they fed you, they supported you in your journey, so they contributed to that achievement very directly, so they can rightly take pride in it.

You talk about lack of logic, and try to insult me, but you end up giving the most illogical argument of the topic so far.
 
Huh! Where are you trying to go with that?

Pride in a thing typically leads to a desire to protect, maintain, and improve a thing. This "feeling" helps build tomorrow on achievements of the past. Yes, one can go overboard with it, but " 'Merica, Fuck Yeah!", is not necessarily a bad thing, and is actually to the general benefit to our country. I don't want to be the one that screws all this greatness up.

The reverse of that is Germany. Ground in institutionalized guilt, and shame, are not to the benefit of a people. Especially considering that the people that committed those shameful acts are dead or will be in the next couple years.
 
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M76 said:
We were just discussing this another topic, that actually spending more time at work doesn't equate into more productivity. So you can look down at the French as much as you want, but they have the right idea. As far as productivity is concerned about 35 hours is the sweet spot. The time that you can give 100% effort, and re-generate enough between shifts to be able to give 100% in the next one too. But in reality we didn't even have to work 35 hours anymore if we'd put all the unemployed to work, and not fight but embrace automation of jobs. I know that that's an idea hard to come to terms with, and you'll hate me for it even more.
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Give a man a day to do a days work and they will take a day.

Tell them they can go home as soon as they are finished and they will be done by lunchtime.

We had a similar work system at an office I worked in. The rule was as long as the projects, targets etc. were met and no one was complaining you did as you pleased. The office was usually empty by 3pm.

No one wasted time, you got stuff done as soon as you could. You got paid for what you delivered that year, not how many hours worked, meetings held or emails unanswered because you were 'soo busy'.
 
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You know. I've been waiting for a reason to dump my iphone 6s. I'm so over the Apple thing. Just want a very nice, reliable phone, A phone that I can be proud of. GO USA
 
Gorankar said:
Pride in a thing typically leads to a desire to protect, maintain, and improve a thing.
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Amen, its a bit like renting vs owning housing.

When you're a renter, generally speaking, many people don't really care if the neighborhood goes to poop in a few years, don't want to spend a lot of money upgrading things and adding landscaping, and so forth, and if something breaks then its not really their problem, and worst case scenario they simply move and find a new place.

Its not THEIRS its just a place they happen to live at the moment.

When you own a property though, you start caring a lot more about doing upgrades, planting, add a deck, enamel the garage floor, doing lots of preventative maintenance, and you feel invested because its yours.

And like you say, this sense of ownership can be a double-edged sword and create bitterness, if say next door you have a renter move in and he parks his car on his lawn which he never mows, half the plants are dead, the paint is chipping off the walls, and the place is just going to poop, the disinterested renter may not even understand why the home owner next door is pissed off, because to him its just a place to live and he'll move if the grass is greener elsewhere, whereas to the home owner he feels a sense of ownership of that neighborhood and doesn't want to see it go down the tubes. But even this bitterness IMO is healthy to the prosperity and future of the neighborhood, even when it seems negative.
 
Ducman69 said:
Amen, its a bit like renting vs owning housing.

When you're a renter, generally speaking, many people don't really care if the neighborhood goes to poop in a few years, don't want to spend a lot of money upgrading things and adding landscaping, and so forth, and if something breaks then its not really their problem, and worst case scenario they simply move and find a new place.

Its not THEIRS its just a place they happen to live at the moment.

When you own a property though, you start caring a lot more about doing upgrades, planting, add a deck, enamel the garage floor, doing lots of preventative maintenance, and you feel invested because its yours.

And like you say, this sense of ownership can be a double-edged sword and create bitterness, if say next door you have a renter move in and he parks his car on his lawn which he never mows, half the plants are dead, the paint is chipping off the walls, and the place is just going to poop, the disinterested renter may not even understand why the home owner next door is pissed off, because to him its just a place to live and he'll move if the grass is greener elsewhere, whereas to the home owner he feels a sense of ownership of that neighborhood and doesn't want to see it go down the tubes. But even this bitterness IMO is healthy to the prosperity and future of the neighborhood, even when it seems negative.
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Ducman,

I've come to the conclusion that the people arguing against the logic of pride, improvement, and everything you've been saying, have no pride! Until you feel accomplishment and are proud of those who accomplish around you, a person just can't understand, maybe has a socialistic/communist frame of mind. Or, is so bitter about people exceeding in life that the bitterness gets in the way. Anyways, I'm proud of your for sticking up for the good parts of our country.
 
The funny thing about this conversation on nationalism and pride, is that it is in a thread about an advertisement with an Austrian actor, for a smartphone likely being assembled in Vietnam or Korea with many of the parts being made in China.

'Merica, Fuck Yea!
 
Gorankar said:
The funny thing about this conversation on nationalism and pride, is that it is in a thread about an advertisement with an Austrian actor, for a smartphone likely being assembled in Vietnam or Korea with many of the parts being made in China.

'Merica, Fuck Yea!
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This just shows me that people are sheep and marketing really works.

From Samsung Group Splashes Big Advertisement Budget To Replicate Apple Inc. Marketing Strategy
"It is important to note that although Samsung has taken a hit on sales figures and revenue stream, its marketing budget was reported to be the biggest in history in fiscal year 2013. It was an astounding $14 billion and constituted 5.4% of the company’s total revenue, while the marketing budgets of Apple and Microsoft in 2013 stood at $1 billion and $2.5 billion, respectively. This shows the level of importance Samsung gives to putting brand awareness across to its consumers."
 
Nukester said:
Ducman,

I've come to the conclusion that the people arguing against the logic of pride, improvement, and everything you've been saying, have no pride! Until you feel accomplishment and are proud of those who accomplish around you, a person just can't understand, maybe has a socialistic/communist frame of mind. Or, is so bitter about people exceeding in life that the bitterness gets in the way. Anyways, I'm proud of your for sticking up for the good parts of our country.
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Yeah, the best solution is to try and idelogozie your flawed position with some kind of reverse psychology and trying to paint the people outside your box, with the elements inside your box. Because in your box only two kinds of people exist, nationalist, and people without any kind of pride. Thankfully I don't exist inside of your frame of reference, but in reality. So just because you don't believe I exist I don't seize to exist.

It's OK and even beneficial to feel pride, and it's a great feeling too. Just not when you feel pride over things that you can take no credit for whatsoever. I get pride from my work, and pride for the people beside me, who I support and love. Just not for the stranger who I never even heard of before he achieved the things he achieved.
 
There is no harm in taking great pride in the good things and achievements your country has made. The big mistake is to ignore or pretend all the bad things and problems your country has, just don't exist. That is dangerous and delusional.

Any true 'patriot' should be keen to acknowledge and address the bad things and try to improve/fix them.
 
daglesj said:
There is no harm in taking great pride in the good things and achievements your country has made. The big mistake is to ignore or pretend all the bad things and problems your country has, just don't exist. That is dangerous and delusional.

Any true 'patriot' should be keen to acknowledge and address the bad things and try to improve/fix them.
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Oh, there are many things wrong with this country! Nobody is ignoring that. But to ignore the good is just as bad.
 
I got it.
I laughed.
I want one too, but wanting one is what led me to click into this thread and watch the video, not the other way around.
 
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