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China is tightening control over the internet? Yeesh!! How can they tighten it any more than it already is?

The rules are aimed at expanding a Chinese censorship system that tries to block Internet use to spread dissent while promoting it for business and education. Communist leaders are especially anxious about unflattering video showing up online ahead of the Beijing Olympics in August, a major prestige project.
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What's not going to be prestigious is when everyone arrives in Beijing and realizes the sky is brown because it's so polluted. The sun will not be seen. Many a pictures of Beijing are photoshopped to make the sky blue lol. They should have done it in Shanghai, a much nicer, cleaner, and cooler (not in the weather sense) city.
 
Oh yeah, here's another funny move they're pulling. Instead of cleaning up all of the dirty neighborhoods and ghettos in Beijing, they're just putting up a ton of MASSIVE billboards/walls with Olympic stuff on them so you can't see all the filth from the street.
 
^^ :eek:I knew it was bad but I didn't realize. I am surprised the general population hasn't risen up in revolt. I f I was an Olympic athlete there would be no way I would compete in that sort of environment.
 
gtg465x said:
Oh yeah, here's another funny move they're pulling. Instead of cleaning up all of the dirty neighborhoods and ghettos in Beijing, they're just putting up a ton of MASSIVE billboards/walls with Olympic stuff on them so you can't see all the filth from the street.
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Yeah I saw that, insane. Also, they are pulling buildings that are bad looking and just kicking the residents out... all in the name of appearing clean.
 
Not really surprising coming from a government that turned it's military loose on students staging a peaceful protest and massacred them.
 
After the Olympics hopefully the world will see that communism is full of fail and they'll be the next for a surprise invasion "for their own good"
 
Whenever American government tries to censor something, just think of China and you'll feel free again.
 
I should invent a computer chair that hits you with a tazer if you bad mouth the government. I could sell it to china and I bet they would make it mandatory for internet usage :D I could make a killing.
 
Jakalwarrior said:
I should invent a computer chair that hits you with a tazer if you bad mouth the government. I could sell it to china and I bet they would make it mandatory for internet usage :D I could make a killing.
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Make sure it has an mp3 player though.
 
The BBC did a docu about kicking people out of their homes to make room for Olympic improvements, One building had the sewer lines on the first floor broken open to force the resident to leave.

I also read a little article about athletes who started to train their, apparently there was a practice race consisting of 50 athletes and only 8 could actually finish, the rest had very bad asthmatic reactions to the horrible air.

Makes me wonder why the world allowed them to host in the first place.
 
michael.pa2 said:
Not really surprising coming from a government that turned it's military loose on students staging a peaceful protest and massacred them.
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What about the Bonus Marchers in 1932? Same situation; in the interest of law and order. What must be realised is that China has a population more than four times the size of the U.S., and much of it under-educated in the present day. Back in '89, the government was faced with not only student protesters. Ignorant farmers were pouring in from the countryside: never before in the city, not used to obeying sanctioned authority. And they were getting violent. A government has a reasonable right to maintain itself against insurrection... "... against all enemies, foreign or domestic..." as the induction pledge goes. Why is it acceptable for our Armed Forces, but not for any other nation's? Why can one sit on a high horse and bash others because one thinks one is better, but can't acknowledge the political and moral parallel between Tiananmen and the Washington Bonus March of '32?

P.S. Beijing suffers from sandstorms sweeping in from the North and West. Not so much is actual smog.
 
Grinder66 said:
^^Thanks for the insight Noam Chomsky. :rolleyes:
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Hey, you can stay ignorant and continue blowing out your ass if it makes your world better. But facts are facts. If you are uncomfortable about the comparison, then stick that head back in the sand.
 
I spent a few days in Beijing over the summer, and while it wasn't too bad colorwise, everyone would come in feeling decidedly dirty and coughing with runny eyes. I had to give up on wearing contacts, because they were starting to collect grime. The sky was actually pretty blue when I visited, and our tour guide said it was the cleanest he'd seen it in weeks. I can't wait to see these elite athletes choking on the smog.

This is what it looked like when we got in the city:
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This is what they're hoping it's going to look like.
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Pepsiennis said:
Hey, you can stay ignorant and continue blowing out your ass if it makes your world better. But facts are facts. If you are uncomfortable about the comparison, then stick that head back in the sand.
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I think you should move to China, seems like you will be real happy there....Oh wait thats right, if you did you would not be able to regurgitate your liberal propaganda....nevermind.
 
Pepsiennis said:
What about the Bonus Marchers in 1932? Same situation; in the interest of law and order. What must be realised is that China has a population more than four times the size of the U.S., and much of it under-educated in the present day. Back in '89, the government was faced with not only student protesters. Ignorant farmers were pouring in from the countryside: never before in the city, not used to obeying sanctioned authority. And they were getting violent. A government has a reasonable right to maintain itself against insurrection... "... against all enemies, foreign or domestic..." as the induction pledge goes. Why is it acceptable for our Armed Forces, but not for any other nation's? Why can one sit on a high horse and bash others because one thinks one is better, but can't acknowledge the political and moral parallel between Tiananmen and the Washington Bonus March of '32?

P.S. Beijing suffers from sandstorms sweeping in from the North and West. Not so much is actual smog.
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You're right about the sand blowing in, but I'm pretty sure the sky is brown from the smog. When we drove about an hour outside the city to see the Great Wall the sky was much bluer.
 
wow, makes me feel better about some of the smog floating over my cities factories.
 
When I was in Beijing a few years ago it was sandy/smoggy. A fine sand does blow in from Mongolia, but like gtg465x said, pollution is mixed in with it. Same deal in Xian when I was there also but worse than Xian. It's not uncommon to see people spitting all over the place. Seen some guy hork up a big one right on the floor where he was sitting. mmmm, yummy. I would not want to be an athlete competing in those conditions.

Gotta say though, Main St. Beijing sure looked nice and new.
 
tacosareveryyummy said:
I am surprised the general population hasn't risen up in revolt.
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While thousands or even millions may be inconvenienced by the government, the other BILLION as experiencing a quality of life that was unheard of in China 15 years ago. People love to talk about how horrible the conditions are and how evil communists are, but China's economy is on fire, at the current rate of growth China will be a first-world country by 2011-2012, where as in 1998 they were around 40% of the requirement for such status, 30 years ago they were at 10%.
 
Nemesis999 said:
While thousands or even millions may be inconvenienced by the government, the other BILLION as experiencing a quality of life that was unheard of in China 15 years ago. People love to talk about how horrible the conditions are and how evil communists are, but China's economy is on fire, at the current rate of growth China will be a first-world country by 2011-2012, where as in 1998 they were around 40% of the requirement for such status, 30 years ago they were at 10%.
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ya there economy is on fire because the walmart/nike slaves are working for nothing and the US workers are & will pay the price the more we shop out our goods to slave nations in the name of saving money for corporations that don't give a chit whether you live in a trash can or a cardboard box as long as there exploiting someone somewhere and making a profit doing it, thats democracy baby.

Keep up the good work USA

OPEN your EYES B4 ITS TO LATE
 
Nemesis999 said:
While thousands or even millions may be inconvenienced by the government, the other BILLION as experiencing a quality of life that was unheard of in China 15 years ago. People love to talk about how horrible the conditions are and how evil communists are, but China's economy is on fire, at the current rate of growth China will be a first-world country by 2011-2012, where as in 1998 they were around 40% of the requirement for such status, 30 years ago they were at 10%.
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Actually the numbers are the other way around. And no one uses the term first, second third world anymore.
 
Pepsiennis said:
Why can one sit on a high horse and bash others because one thinks one is better, but can't acknowledge the political and moral parallel between Tiananmen and the Washington Bonus March of '32?
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Maybe because you had to go back 76 years to find an example to make your point?:rolleyes:
 
While thousands or even millions may be inconvenienced by the government, the other BILLION as experiencing a quality of life that was unheard of in China 15 years ago. People love to talk about how horrible the conditions are and how evil communists are, but China's economy is on fire, at the current rate of growth China will be a first-world country by 2011-2012, where as in 1998 they were around 40% of the requirement for such status, 30 years ago they were at 10%.

So because China was REALLY REALLY REALLY FK'd up in the past, and is now only REALLY REALLY FK'd up, we can all shout HalleelooooYAH baby!. China wont be a first-world country for another 5,000 years, first world countries have freedom and democracy.

China (govt and people) are so beyond utterly irresponsible, there are not words. They have a population 5 times bigger than they can actually feed properly, and keep right on going. Eventually it will collapse, every drop of natural resources will be exhausted or poisoned, thank god noone can swim 6,000 miles.

Meantime, for this event, they will shut down all industry and traffic for a 500 mile radius before the games to let the air clear so they can put on a good show.
 
rantanamo said:
Actually the numbers are the other way around.
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Care to back that up?


rantanamo said:
And no one uses the term first, second third world anymore.
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Semantics
Developed, Developing, Undeveloped. I don't give a crap about political correctness. China is going fro undeveloped to developed in 20 years.


xX_Jack_Carver_Xx said:
China wont be a first-world country for another 5,000 years, first world countries have freedom and democracy.
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Sure. They're bad because they don't do something the way America does. :rolleyes:
 
xX_Jack_Carver_Xx said:
China (govt and people) are so beyond utterly irresponsible, there are not words. They have a population 5 times bigger than they can actually feed properly, and keep right on going. Eventually it will collapse, every drop of natural resources will be exhausted or poisoned, thank god noone can swim 6,000 miles.
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Wait... Do you even think before you respond? China has the strictest population control measures in the world. What the hell are you ranting about? In fact, plenty of people love to talk about how evil China is because of their population control, you seem to be both complaining about them being evil, and too lenient at once.
 
Sure,they have strict population controls now - after decades of encouraging growth in the belief that having the most people would make them powerful.That's the way totalitarian regimes think,more people = larger armies = more power.Now they realize they've got to feed all those people,and that sheer numbers don't count anymore thanks to a little invention called the nuclear bomb.
 
michael.pa2 said:
Sure,they have strict population controls now - after decades of encouraging growth in the belief that having the most people would make them powerful.That's the way totalitarian regimes think,more people = larger armies = more power.Now they realize they've got to feed all those people,and that sheer numbers don't count anymore thanks to a little invention called the nuclear bomb.
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Their policies went into effect nearly 40 years ago, the current government hasn't even been in power 60 years, on top of that, most of the population growth (~600 million) has happened since it's implementation. Somehow I think attempting to blame today's government for something done by the government 50 years ago is a little pointless.
 
gtg465x said:
You're right about the sand blowing in, but I'm pretty sure the sky is brown from the smog. When we drove about an hour outside the city to see the Great Wall the sky was much bluer.
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If it was just sand blowing in, they wouldn't force people to stay inside for a certain days in an attempt to create less traffic so the sky can be more clean.

Sand is probably a good mix, but it makes a much greater excuse for Communist China.
 
Pepsiennis said:
What about the Bonus Marchers in 1932? Same situation; in the interest of law and order. What must be realised is that China has a population more than four times the size of the U.S., and much of it under-educated in the present day. Back in '89, the government was faced with not only student protesters. Ignorant farmers were pouring in from the countryside: never before in the city, not used to obeying sanctioned authority. And they were getting violent. A government has a reasonable right to maintain itself against insurrection... "... against all enemies, foreign or domestic..." as the induction pledge goes. Why is it acceptable for our Armed Forces, but not for any other nation's? Why can one sit on a high horse and bash others because one thinks one is better, but can't acknowledge the political and moral parallel between Tiananmen and the Washington Bonus March of '32?

P.S. Beijing suffers from sandstorms sweeping in from the North and West. Not so much is actual smog.
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1932? Yeah, America and China have changed a lot since then. But three wars couldn't make a difference, could it?

cozmo_d said:
um ya

thats comedy

USA is as or just as bad as them and getting worse every day :mad:
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It's too bad you just proved yourself wrong. Because you just criticized the US government on the Internet, and they didn't censor your post. :p
 
Precisely, we are free to call our govt what they are, a bunch of thieving scumbag ckskrs, and nobody comes to knock your door in and drag you to a labor camp.

The day comes that this changes, is the day the 2nd amendment and the 200+ million firearms the People hold go into action. Something the people of China have never had going for them. Ultimately China will undergo a major civil war and purge that rings in democracy, but its gonna be ugly.... the jerkoffs in charge wont go peacefully.

Seeing into the future: Lack of food and clean water and clean air ultimately will be the last straw. It's all good till you find yourself choking to death, dying of thirst and hungry.... surrounded by the same cheap consumer trinkets that led to the fall of America.

As Lennon said, the West will sell the communists the means with which to destroy them.

In this case, we will transfer all the technology and knowledge that made us viable, and they will use it to undermine our economies to oblivian, and we will go out with a whimper.... courtesy of the people I'm not allowed to mention. :eek::rolleyes::p

OR

The US can wiseup, stop buying cheap chinese junk, inflict the corporate death penalty on any company that transfers jobs/technology/operations to China, and re-assert our pre-emminence as the world's leader in all things.

Otherwise, heh, yoou thought the dark ages sucked, you aint seen nothing yet.
 
xX_Jack_Carver_Xx said:
Precisely, we are free to call our govt what they are, a bunch of thieving scumbag ckskrs, and nobody comes to knock your door in and drag you to a labor camp.

The day comes that this changes, is the day the 2nd amendment and the 200+ million firearms the People hold go into action. Something the people of China have never had going for them. Ultimately China will undergo a major civil war and purge that rings in democracy, but its gonna be ugly.... the jerkoffs in charge wont go peacefully.

Seeing into the future: Lack of food and clean water and clean air ultimately will be the last straw. It's all good till you find yourself choking to death, dying of thirst and hungry.... surrounded by the same cheap consumer trinkets that led to the fall of America.

As Lennon said, the West will sell the communists the means with which to destroy them.

In this case, we will transfer all the technology and knowledge that made us viable, and they will use it to undermine our economies to oblivian, and we will go out with a whimper.... courtesy of the people I'm not allowed to mention. :eek::rolleyes::p

OR

The US can wiseup, stop buying cheap chinese junk, inflict the corporate death penalty on any company that transfers jobs/technology/operations to China, and re-assert our pre-emminence as the world's leader in all things.

Otherwise, heh, yoou thought the dark ages sucked, you aint seen nothing yet.
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Yes, China will one day become democratic. But here in America, we already have democracy, and we've had it since the beginning of the country. America was the first example of democracy and continues to lead the world in its expansion. Did it ever occur to you that perhaps we trade with China to convince them of the advantages of democracy? Surely the thought must cross China's mind that they should be more like the nation that provides them with the majority of their wealth.

And why must you assume that anyone with power and/or money must be "a bunch of thieving scumbag ckskrs"? If that is true, why aren't they throwing you in jail right now? They apparently have the power to do that, and you've certainly offended them with your comments.
 
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