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CCENT/CCNA [H] study group

AMD_Gamer said:
This guy has some decent gear for anyone looking into getting a LAB: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1627839
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That actually reminds me: what gear would you have in a CCNA lab, first as "must-haves", then recommended, then "would-be-nice". I've seen a wide variety of equipment being used, and I'm curious what is actually most useful.

I'm expecting one would want probably 2 or 3 routers and 2 or 3 switches, but I'd appreciate some clarity on this.
 
38hrs to my exams.
For the people that have already finished what is the policy on short commands/tab completion? Will I get dinged for using conf t or sh ip in br?
 
Ur_Mom said:
August 12th a little after noon, I'll be a CCNA. ICND2 exam. Studying my ass off, labbing like crazy (HOT!), and realizing I need a couple more WIC's to go for CCNP. :)
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I see you over in the techexams forums.
 
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CCNA in 8 days, what do you think on that? Possible with only previous light use of Cisco IOS?

we'll see :D
 
Jay_oasis said:
no got an 8 day course to go to though. Long days!
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AKA a Brain dump :). You will have a ton of material thrown at you but make sure to keep studying afterworlds to retain the info. Otherwise you will be like my old boss that I make fun of... CCNA course in 5 days and he knows SHIT about networking. Thats why hes on the phones now at a VPN helpdesk and I'm a network admin for a private company.
 
Just passed my ICND2 today with an 888! ICND1 in June with a 920. I can help anyone with any questions about the exam.

Also, anyone pushing CCNP immediately after?
 
Cordilla said:
Just passed my ICND2 today with an 888! ICND1 in June with a 920. I can help anyone with any questions about the exam.

Also, anyone pushing CCNP immediately after?
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Grats dude! Great job! I need to get in gear and finish my ICND2. I want to push CCNP after that but I'm going to do CCNA security first then see about the next level cisco security certs after that.
 
Thanks! Yea, CCNA Sec -> CCNP Sec isn't a bad idea at all, I'm just trying to get a real strong R/S background before I branch out into the security path. I work with a couple dual IE RS/Security guys who are... well brilliant.
 
Langly said:
AKA a Brain dump :). You will have a ton of material thrown at you but make sure to keep studying afterworlds to retain the info. Otherwise you will be like my old boss that I make fun of... CCNA course in 5 days and he knows SHIT about networking. Thats why hes on the phones now at a VPN helpdesk and I'm a network admin for a private company.
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To be honest my Cisco isn't that bad we use it all over the company and I use it at home for my lab stuff.
 
Cordilla said:
Just passed my ICND2 today with an 888! ICND1 in June with a 920. I can help anyone with any questions about the exam.

Also, anyone pushing CCNP immediately after?
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First of all well done!

Don't, wait a while you have to renew them every 3 years but if you do another cert you don't (its Cisco's way of making money.. erm I mean making sure you are up to date)
 
Jay_oasis said:
First of all well done!

Don't, wait a while you have to renew them every 3 years but if you do another cert you don't (its Cisco's way of making money.. erm I mean making sure you are up to date)
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Well, each test (so each of the three CCNP exams) will restart the clock on the 3 year recert time.

Also, I'm pretty confident that the increase in salary from getting an NP (~10k) will definitely outweigh the time value of the 600 dollars that will be expensed back to me in 2 weeks :).
 
Cordilla said:
Just passed my ICND2 today with an 888! ICND1 in June with a 920. I can help anyone with any questions about the exam.

Also, anyone pushing CCNP immediately after?
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Well you can tell us what you suggest to study hard on lol.

And congrats!
 
devin_m said:
Didn't pass I got 776, I'll retake it next time I can midway through september.
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Sorry to hear that. Score sounds like it had to have been fairly close to passing. What did you get hung up on?

Better luck next time. :)
 
Jay_oasis said:
To be honest my Cisco isn't that bad we use it all over the company and I use it at home for my lab stuff.
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Not an attack on you per say as long as you have the experience to back it up the fast cert :) If you have the experience and just want to plow through a course to refresh then take the test then I support you there.

Now in my old bosses case, he didn't have ANY experience but he basically did a 5 day training which brain dumped it for him and he passed. When I would ask him about subnetting he could to that... but configuring anything routing or basics for switches etc. he would just sit there counting his toes and not be able to answer.
 
damacus said:
Sorry to hear that. Score sounds like it had to have been fairly close to passing. What did you get hung up on?

Better luck next time. :)
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Yeah I was off by 49 points, the two sections I need more practice in according to my sheet are troubleshooting, and NAT/ACLs which I find to be a very fair assessment. At least I don't have to worry about my ICND 1 book anymore and I can just focus on my ICND 2 book. I need to do a lot more labbing, I wish I could get my hands on some hardware locally maybe I'll look at the local electronics recycle depot.

AMD_Gamer said:
So was the ICND2 harder?
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I found it more difficult since I evidently wasn't as prepared as I should have been. I think with a little more focus and a month more study/practice (I could do it in less but I don't have the opertunity to retake sooner, I can't wait to head to Vegas for a week :)) I won't have any issues with it. The exam itself is a very fair test, I just didn't know my stuff.
 
AMD_Gamer said:
Well you can tell us what you suggest to study hard on lol.

And congrats!
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For ICND1 hammer subnetting over and over... it should be second nature for you. Also make sure you retain that for ICND2 as well. The second test will require you to use subnetting in practical applications, not just specific questions about subnets.


Unfortunately for ICND2 the majority of questions are troubleshooting based. For instance, a question will give you a topology and give you console access to two routers, one configured and one not. It may ask you to configure the router on a certain ip of the management vlan or set up the router as a vtp client.

Another common question would give you a topology and a routing table and tell you what path a packet would take from router A to router C (this is about as easy of a question as you'll see)

Basically, the test was pretty even parts of OSPF, EIGRP, NAT, ACLs, and STP with a little less of basic IP/subnetting, Frame Relay, IPv6 and VTP.
 
Typically you want to avoid kits. You can usually piece together better/more relevant gear for cheaper if you buy stuff individually.
 
As soon as I'm done my CCNA (fingers crossed September 18th) I want to start my CCNP but this time I want to actually get some hardware would CCNA standard hardware suffice? or do I need newer gear? what gear should I be looking at?
 
devin_m said:
As soon as I'm done my CCNA (fingers crossed September 18th) I want to start my CCNP but this time I want to actually get some hardware would CCNA standard hardware suffice? or do I need newer gear? what gear should I be looking at?
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It is all about the IOS and what hardware supports which versions.
 
Jay_oasis said:
bloody hell thats expensive!
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With free shipping, it didn't seem too expensive to me, when others ship for $50-85. That said, I haven't priced a lot of older Cisco gear, so it may not be that great a value. The one other thing about that auction I noticed is they don't list the amt of flash and ram in the equipment.

Vito_Corleone said:
Typically you want to avoid kits. You can usually piece together better/more relevant gear for cheaper if you buy stuff individually.
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Likely so. I am somewhat willing to pay extra to improve my chances of having what I need on-hand, rather than be half-into a project and realize I need to buy another interface card or chose poorly on some gear (which is why I biased the dual 3640 setup.)

I'm probably best served just holding off any purchases until I'm further into my CCNA studies. I'm just getting started going down this path and I may be able to just do most things in dynamips or gns3. (I do like hands-on stuff, and looking at a pile of gear though.)
 
devin_m said:
As soon as I'm done my CCNA (fingers crossed September 18th) I want to start my CCNP but this time I want to actually get some hardware would CCNA standard hardware suffice? or do I need newer gear? what gear should I be looking at?
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you will need a layer 3 switch. a 3550 is perfect for the price. one is ok, but two would be best.
 
Packet tracer is pretty much worthless for STP commands. Looks like I am going to have to stop being lazy and use my lab lol.

I cannot do

show spanning-tree root

show spanning-tree bridge

debug spanning-tree events

heck i can't do anything!:mad:
 
Is there a difference between bpduguard and Cisco Root Guard? both are mentioned in the book but there is no command for Root Guard?

Root Guard lets traffic and BPDU's flow but shuts down the port if a superior bridge ID enters the port to prevent the connected switch from becoming root, according to the book.
 
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