Cant get sound to work in ubuntu 8.10, Help pls?

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Azazel90x

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Its an updated problem now, sound works, but headphones still dont heres the update from a month ago:

Eragon Dragonslayer said:
Well its been a month, and it still has a problem, i was working on it today, and got some improvement, on the left earbud of my headphones, you can actually hear the faintest sound of the music playing, but its SUPER faint, and its only in the left headphone, heres my ALSA base right now :

Code: 
# autoloader aliases
install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-0
install sound-slot-1 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-1
install sound-slot-2 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-2
install sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-3
install sound-slot-4 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-4
install sound-slot-5 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-5
install sound-slot-6 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-6
install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-7

# Cause optional modules to be loaded above generic modules
install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-ioctl32 ; : ; }
install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-seq ; }
install snd-pcm /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-pcm && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-pcm-oss ; : ; }
install snd-mixer /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-mixer && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-mixer-oss ; : ; }
install snd-seq /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-seq && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq-midi ; /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq-oss ; : ; }
install snd-rawmidi /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-rawmidi && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq-midi ; : ; }
# Cause optional modules to be loaded above sound card driver modules
install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-emu10k1-synth ; }
install snd-via82xx /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-via82xx $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-seq ; }

# Load saa7134-alsa instead of saa7134 (which gets dragged in by it anyway)
install saa7134 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install saa7134 $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb saa7134-alsa ; : ; }

# Load snd-seq for devices that don't have hardware midi;
#   Ubuntu #26283, #43682, #56005; works around Ubuntu #34831 for
#   non-Creative Labs PCI hardware
install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-seq ; }
# Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0
options bt87x index=-2
options cx88_alsa index=-2
options saa7134-alsa index=-2
options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2
options snd-intel8x0m index=-2
options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2
options snd-usb-audio index=-2
options snd-usb-usx2y index=-2
options snd-usb-caiaq index=-2
# Ubuntu #62691, enable MPU for snd-cmipci
options snd-cmipci mpu_port=0x330 fm_port=0x388
# Keep snd-pcsp from beeing loaded as first soundcard
options snd-pcsp index=-2
options snd-hda-intel model=3stack enable=yes
options snd-hda-intel model=auto position_fix=1 enable=yes
options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo

And the /sbin/lsmod | grep snd

Code: 
snd_hda_intel         384176  3 
snd_pcm_oss            46848  0 
snd_mixer_oss          22784  2 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm                83204  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy          10884  0 
snd_seq_oss            38528  0 
snd_seq_midi           14336  0 
snd_rawmidi            29824  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event     15232  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq                57776  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer              29960  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device         15116  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd                    63268  13 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore              15328  2 snd
snd_page_alloc         16136  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm

I could really use some help, and im open to any suggestion.

And heres a screenie of my soundcontrol panel just in case...
screenshotvolumecontrol.png
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thats odd. realtek snd is well supported

1) does the hardware work (ie sound works in windows and SOUND is enabled in BIOS)

2) output of

/sbin/lspci
/sbin/lsmod | grep snd


its easier to deal with the commandline when communication is via a forum/irc
 
/sbin/lsmod | grep snd

snd_hda_intel 381488 3
snd_pcm_oss 46848 0
snd_mixer_oss 22784 2 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 83204 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy 10884 0
snd_seq_oss 38528 0
snd_seq_midi 14336 0
snd_rawmidi 29824 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event 15232 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq 57776 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer 29960 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 15116 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd 63268 13 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore 15328 2 snd
snd_page_alloc 16136 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
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Sound does work in windows
 
You have the bloody hda_intel chipset hehe I have the exact same one and it takes some work. I use fedora so my solution may/may not work. First off open up a terminal (In Ubuntu go to Applications, System Tools or Utilities (can't remember) and click Terminal. In the terminal type, pulseaudio -k which restarts the sound server.
 
Which Linux distro? Your distro might have a different directory. In Debian/Ubuntu
print out your alsa-base. it should be in /etc/modprobe.d/
since, hardforum.com site is acting like a bitch, in case I don't check back.

try adding this line. make sure there aren't conflicts of a different entry for snd-hda-intel

options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo

then reboot.
 
`danny said:
You have the bloody hda_intel chipset hehe I have the exact same one and it takes some work. I use fedora so my solution may/may not work. First off open up a terminal (In Ubuntu go to Applications, System Tools or Utilities (can't remember) and click Terminal. In the terminal type, pulseaudio -k which restarts the sound server.
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Nope, command not found

requiemnoise said:
Which Linux distro? Your distro might have a different directory. In Debian/Ubuntu
print out your alsa-base. it should be in /etc/modprobe.d/
since, hardforum.com site is acting like a bitch, in case I don't check back.

try adding this line. make sure there aren't conflicts of a different entry for snd-hda-intel

options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo

then reboot.
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Running Ubuntu 8.10

Kk found the alsa-base so heres what it says
Code: 
# autoloader aliases
install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-0
install sound-slot-1 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-1
install sound-slot-2 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-2
install sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-3
install sound-slot-4 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-4
install sound-slot-5 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-5
install sound-slot-6 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-6
install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-7

# Cause optional modules to be loaded above generic modules
install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-ioctl32 ; : ; }
install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-seq ; }
install snd-pcm /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-pcm && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-pcm-oss ; : ; }
install snd-mixer /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-mixer && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-mixer-oss ; : ; }
install snd-seq /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-seq && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq-midi ; /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq-oss ; : ; }
install snd-rawmidi /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-rawmidi && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq-midi ; : ; }
# Cause optional modules to be loaded above sound card driver modules
install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-emu10k1-synth ; }
install snd-via82xx /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-via82xx $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-seq ; }

# Load saa7134-alsa instead of saa7134 (which gets dragged in by it anyway)
install saa7134 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install saa7134 $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb saa7134-alsa ; : ; }

# Load snd-seq for devices that don't have hardware midi;
#   Ubuntu #26283, #43682, #56005; works around Ubuntu #34831 for
#   non-Creative Labs PCI hardware
install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-seq ; }
# Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0
options bt87x index=-2
options cx88_alsa index=-2
options saa7134-alsa index=-2
options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2
options snd-intel8x0m index=-2
options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2
options snd-usb-audio index=-2
options snd-usb-usx2y index=-2
options snd-usb-caiaq index=-2
# Ubuntu #62691, enable MPU for snd-cmipci
options snd-cmipci mpu_port=0x330 fm_port=0x388
# Keep snd-pcsp from beeing loaded as first soundcard
options snd-pcsp index=-2

Tried to add options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo and it said i didnt have permission to save the file
 
That is odd. Actually, ALSA drver should sound louder and even distorted compared to WDM.
Are you sure you enabled all the mixer view? I'm going to assume you are using a vanilla install. Try enabling all the view by going to the preference. You can also try the terminal version, by typing "alsamixer."
 
Its maxed out at 100 too, with the green bar, and i just plugged in my headphones and no sound...
 
Eragon Dragonslayer said:
Its maxed out at 100 too, with the green bar.
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Did you also max out the all the wav/pcm channels too? I don't know what is up with your machine. Maybe, your Windows version drivers use software EQ outputs for the actual outs. That issue is nothing to do with Linux kernel or audio drivers. It is probably more to do with your manufacture might have tweaked driver codes from a chipset provider to create more loudness.
 
requiemnoise said:
Did also maxed the all the wav/pcm channels too? I don't know what is up with your machine. Maybe, your Windows version drivers use EQ outputs for the actual outs. That issue is nothing to do with Linux kernel or audio drivers. It is probably more to do with your manufacture might have tweaked driver codes from a chipset provider to create more loudness.
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it cant be that, because when i installed ubuntu 7.10 about a yr ago, everything worked fine, the sound was as loud as it was supposed to be and the headphone jack worked.
 
OK, sound is now as loud as it will go now, had to play around with a couple audio profiles to get it to work, but it works now, only problem now is headphone out still isnt working idk whats up with that
 
Usually, laptop headjacks disable the speakers when the secondary ground is grounded. Usually this is controlled by the hardware, not software. But, software driver can reroute sounds internally to virtual ports. Check if your driver has an headphone routing options. If you do, your alsamixer should have detected. Check your preference.

Oh, you welcome.
 
Sorry, i usually say thanks after my problems have been solved :)

And i cant find where that reroute thingy is
 
no worries...i'm trying to be funny.
it could be your headphone routing is 100% software.
on your preference, you didn't had a headphone option?
open up your gnome mixer ---> edit ---> preference ---> add headphones.
then click headphones
 
Nope, headphones are already added, its already checked off.

Nothing ever error free is it? Lol, but i kinda like the challenge, learn soo much more about linux that way :D
 
Well its been a month, and it still has a problem, i was working on it today, and got some improvement, on the left earbud of my headphones, you can actually hear the faintest sound of the music playing, but its SUPER faint, and its only in the left headphone, heres my ALSA base right now :

Code: 
# autoloader aliases
install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-0
install sound-slot-1 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-1
install sound-slot-2 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-2
install sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-3
install sound-slot-4 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-4
install sound-slot-5 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-5
install sound-slot-6 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-6
install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-7

# Cause optional modules to be loaded above generic modules
install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-ioctl32 ; : ; }
install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-seq ; }
install snd-pcm /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-pcm && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-pcm-oss ; : ; }
install snd-mixer /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-mixer && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-mixer-oss ; : ; }
install snd-seq /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-seq && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq-midi ; /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq-oss ; : ; }
install snd-rawmidi /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-rawmidi && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq-midi ; : ; }
# Cause optional modules to be loaded above sound card driver modules
install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-emu10k1-synth ; }
install snd-via82xx /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-via82xx $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-seq ; }

# Load saa7134-alsa instead of saa7134 (which gets dragged in by it anyway)
install saa7134 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install saa7134 $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb saa7134-alsa ; : ; }

# Load snd-seq for devices that don't have hardware midi;
#   Ubuntu #26283, #43682, #56005; works around Ubuntu #34831 for
#   non-Creative Labs PCI hardware
install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-seq ; }
# Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0
options bt87x index=-2
options cx88_alsa index=-2
options saa7134-alsa index=-2
options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2
options snd-intel8x0m index=-2
options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2
options snd-usb-audio index=-2
options snd-usb-usx2y index=-2
options snd-usb-caiaq index=-2
# Ubuntu #62691, enable MPU for snd-cmipci
options snd-cmipci mpu_port=0x330 fm_port=0x388
# Keep snd-pcsp from beeing loaded as first soundcard
options snd-pcsp index=-2
options snd-hda-intel model=3stack enable=yes
options snd-hda-intel model=auto position_fix=1 enable=yes
options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo

And the /sbin/lsmod | grep snd

Code: 
snd_hda_intel         384176  3 
snd_pcm_oss            46848  0 
snd_mixer_oss          22784  2 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm                83204  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy          10884  0 
snd_seq_oss            38528  0 
snd_seq_midi           14336  0 
snd_rawmidi            29824  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event     15232  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq                57776  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer              29960  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device         15116  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd                    63268  13 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore              15328  2 snd
snd_page_alloc         16136  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm

I could really use some help, and im open to any suggestion.

And heres a screenie of my soundcontrol panel just in case...
screenshotvolumecontrol.png
 
try muting/unmuting extra weird channels and flipping switches you have no idea what they do. On my sony laptop the speakers won't work with external speakers turned on lol, or at least I think so...anyway the way alsa puts stuff into the mixer is haphazard
 
What kind of motherboard do you have? Are you plugging the headphones into the rear audio jack, or into a dedicated motherboard header for front audio ports? This actually sound like the jack may not be engaging (or does not have) a built in amp for headphones. Haven't encountered this in Linux, but have many times in Windows.
 
Servant of Shodan said:
What kind of motherboard do you have? Are you plugging the headphones into the rear audio jack, or into a dedicated motherboard header for front audio ports? This actually sound like the jack may not be engaging (or does not have) a built in amp for headphones. Haven't encountered this in Linux, but have many times in Windows.
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its a laptop, its a toshiba laptop from the black friday 3 years ago at best buy, and theres only one headphone jack so im plugging into that, i mean it "works" i can BARELY hear a sound from my left channel, even when i plug it into my cmoy amp and turn that up as high as it can go, its still faint. so idk whats up..
 
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