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Can't decide on OS

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Just ordered all the hardware for a new build, and I can't decide on what OS (or OSes) I'm going to use. I'm leaning towards sticking with Windows XP Pro 32 bit just because it's what I'm familiar with. Anyone want to pitch to me XP Pro 64 bit or Vista Ultimate 64 bit? I have this desire to get the most out of my ram, try vista, and try 64 bit processing, but I'm hesitant to put money into something that might end up bringing me grief.
 
64 bit OSes shouldn't bring you any grief, especially Vista x64, if you plan ahead, check your applications compatibility, and make sure you get the right drivers for your hardware. You didn't post any planned system specs, so we can only make assumptions at this point. Considering how cheap DDR2 is right now, there really isn't much of a reason not to go to 4 GB, which would also put you into the x64 category. As for which OS, XP or Vista, that choice should be made by you and you alone. XP is stable and what you're familiar with, but many of us who are using Vista x64 love it, and won't go back.
 
Please don't turn into another one of these people. The OP is clearly asking about which version of Windows to install. Linux is not a solution to everyone and every problem.

Neither is x64 and Vista which both are plagued with multiple problems and troubled backwards compatibility. Don't do him any misfavors by trying to fool him into being an early adopter and pay the price.
 
if you have XP stick with XP

Only reason I got Vista was that it was a discounted academic version. I very much regret it. Can't play Bf2142... the thing uses 750MB of RAM just sitting here doing nothing (with superfetch disabled) and that's with all of the tweaks. I think XP is something like 200MB. No, I don't want my OS to use all of my RAM, thats why I have applications for.

IE7 is crashy, has no session saver.

The UAC in Vista is just ridiculous. It'll break installations and just tell you everythings honky dory

The only good thing is the eye-candy
 
if you have XP stick with XP

Only reason I got Vista was that it was a discounted academic version. I very much regret it. Can't play Bf2142... the thing uses 750MB of RAM just sitting here doing nothing (with superfetch disabled) and that's with all of the tweaks. I think XP is something like 200MB. No, I don't want my OS to use all of my RAM, thats why I have applications for.

IE7 is crashy, has no session saver.

The UAC in Vista is just ridiculous. It'll break installations and just tell you everythings honky dory

The only good thing is the eye-candy
 
IE7 has nothing to do with the OS. If you don't like it, you are free to use Firefox or Opera, both of which work flawlessly with Vista.

As for UAC, if it bothers you, turn it off. It's one simple checkbox.
 
Sorry, I posted my spec in another sub-forum and forgot to do so here. Here is the wishlist of stuff I purchased recently. It's already been shipped! :D
https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersio...WishListNumber=6814052&WishListTitle=New+Comp

I already bought two Seagate 7200rpm hard drives to go with it.

The main thing I don't want to happen if I upgrade to Vista 64, or even XP 64:
I don't want it to affect my gaming (which is primarily only World of Warcraft)
I don't want it to affect my ability to run programs like Zmud, Kerio Personal Firewall, and McAfee OAS.
Mostly, I don't want my computer to be sluggish. I like for things to move quickly.

That being said, I'm also planning on getting a tv-tuner within the next couple of months. Isn't Vista's multimedia software supposed to work well with video input?

Also, I guess there's the possibility of installing Vista (64) and XP Pro (32) as a backup.

Thanks so much for responding :)
 
if you're getting a DX10 card, get vista. once more and more DX10 games start coming out and you wanna play with the eyecandy, you're gonna wanna upgrade anyway. do it now and save yourself the trouble.

the tv tuner support depends on if its compatible with media center. so check to make sure it is, otherwise you'll have to stick with shitty software that is usually bundled with the tv tuner or you'll need to buy separate tv software (BeyondTV i think)

as for your other programs, comodo released a free firewall for vista (which is actually very good, even though the built-in firewall is actually pretty decent) and avast anti-virus is also very good and free as well. zMud might work if you use compatibility mode but i'd google search to see if there is anything on it.

remember to run your program installations as an admin (right click on the setup exe and click Run as Admin) and most if not all headaches will go away. flash support in x64 is shitty for IE7. stick with 32bit if thats what you want to use or get Firefox.
 
My experiences with Vista 64bit are far better than they were with XP 32bit or XP 64bit in the same time frame. Basically Vista's first year on the market has been less troublesome than XP's first year on the market.
 
Do you think an OEM of Vista Ultimate 64 would be a waste of money? If you're going to pitch Vista, might as well pitch me a specific edition :)

Thanks again!
 
For the vast majority of people, Ultimate is a waste of money. Home Premium or Business would fit the needs instead. Making this decision for you however, if up to you, and you only. Take a look at the differences, and then on the cost differences, and decided if it's worth it to you or not. There's no way to answer this question for someone else, or in a broad, blanket type statement.
 
Well, how often do you use (and how do you like) the couple of things ultimate has that home premium doesn't? like the total pc backup and the remote access thing.
 
I've got Ultimate because I needed to join the machine to a domain as well as wanting the Media Center functions. Vista Ultimate seemed like a good fit for me. Neither home Premium or Business can do both of those things.
 
I honestly don't use them. I use Ghost and SyncToy to handle my various back up needs. I don't play the included games, nor do I run DreamScene. I also don't remotely connect into my Vista boxes, so that's not an issue for me. The only reason I have Ultimate, is because I have a TechNet subscription.
 
Do you think an OEM of Vista Ultimate 64 would be a waste of money? If you're going to pitch Vista, might as well pitch me a specific edition :)

Thanks again!

i'd say unless you need the extra networking features that business and ultimate have, just go with home premium.
 
if you can, dual boot
xp32, vista64

I like both for different reasons.

I can't stand the thought of dual booting. It is redundant, eats up more drive space and is a general pain in the ass.

At present Vista can do everything XP can do. Sometimes only 90% as well and sometimes better. Vista is only improving and XP is going to lose steam as everything transitions to Vista.
 
Also, don't listen to any of the fools who regurgitate anything about the DX10 hoax. As we've seen in Crysis the only effect DX10 brings to the table is slideshow fps.

Even if DX10 had some really cool features you'd want to upgrade for (which it obviously doesn't) you'd have to wait at least 2 generations of dispaly cards untill you can play the games with any decent framerates.

For current hardware, DX10 is a no-no especially if you play intensive fps games where smooth fps counts the most.
 
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