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Cant decide on a Modular PSU!

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LyL18

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Okay, so i need a replace this crappy Raidmax PSU i got for free a year ago... I want something modular and sleeved, which usually come hand in hand. (other than the Antec NeoPower) Id like to stay under $100. The ones I've come across so far are:

Super Flower 550W
OCZ ModStream 450W
Ultra X-Connect 500W

Right now, the SuperFlower is looking like its going to be my choice because its the only one I havnt found any negative comments on... What do you guys think? Any other suggestions?

*Edit* I just noticed that the Super Flower is BTX...Will that fit in my Antec P160?
 
I got the new 01/05 issue of MaxPC today and they say the Ultra really sucks bad. 3/10 with fluxuating voltage
 
kent said:
I got the new 01/05 issue of MaxPC today and they say the Ultra really sucks bad. 3/10 with fluxuating voltage
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and while I have only heard this second hand, and not reiewed the test proceedure in depth
they also picked the neopower as the top modular dog (if not the most stable and cleanest)
 
The NeoPower is a little over my budget, and its not sleeved as i would have wished :(
 
The knowledge of modular PSU's seem to be lacking around this forum IMO. Doesn't seem like many people have them, and everyone just tries to push Antec Everyone says this:

-The Ultra PSU's are crap, made by Powmax, so they must be
-Get the Antec NeoPower.

Aside from that, you can't find a comment worth a damn on the OCZ ModStream or the SuperFlower/TTGI.

There is a good thread about the Ultra from a few owners who say it has gievn them no problems, aside from a really bad smell. One guy swapped out the fans with SilenX onces and cleaned up the internal wiring clutter for better airflow. Otherwise, he's had no issues. The other biggest complaint is the cables are rather stiff. So I'd rule out Ultra honestly.

The Antec is great, but it's not sleeved, and if you want it sleeved it will cost you $160. That's a $45 premium over it non-sleeved. Very NOT worth the premium. You can sleeve it yourself for $12 in a sleeving kit and a $5 molex puller.


The OCZ ModStream isn't up to the spec of the PowerStream if you look at the numbers, but the specs are still good. I doubt OCZ would sell a poor product however.

SuperFlower and TTGI (the US distributor) have some nice specs on their units. I've seen some random talk about SuperFlower being good quality, but not much otherwise.

So I'd say pick between SuperFlower or OCZ . I'm leaning towards the OCZ because at least we know their PowerStream PSU's are excellent, and I can't think they'd waat to ruin their rep with a bad PSU. What I don't understand is why they simply didn't take a PowerStream and make it modular. They are using a different powersupply.

BTW - The SuperFlower is ATX/BTX, so it will work.

LyL18 said:
Okay, so i need a replace this crappy Raidmax PSU i got for free a year ago... I want something modular and sleeved, which usually come hand in hand. (other than the Antec NeoPower) Id like to stay under $100. The ones I've come across so far are:

Super Flower 550W
OCZ ModStream 450W
Ultra X-Connect 500W

Right now, the SuperFlower is looking like its going to be my choice because its the only one I havnt found any negative comments on... What do you guys think? Any other suggestions?

*Edit* I just noticed that the Super Flower is BTX...Will that fit in my Antec P160?
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Antec Neopower is a solid PSU. Not fully modular though. See if you can get it sleeved when you purchase it. Several vendors (FrozenCPU, Performance PC) will do that.
 
HDClown said:
The knowledge of modular PSU's seem to be lacking around this forum IMO. Doesn't seem like many people have them, and everyone just tries to push Antec Everyone says this:

-The Ultra PSU's are crap, made by Powmax, so they must be
-Get the Antec NeoPower.

Aside from that, you can't find a comment worth a damn on the OCZ ModStream or the SuperFlower/TTGI.

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1st the OCZ Modstream and SuperFlower are brand new supplies
until they are independently reviewed by someone competent they are suspect
luckily while writing this, I found a review by Mike Chin on the Modstream
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article208-page1.html
and while not pushed all that hard it did quite well with good load regulation
but a high baseline +12V voltage

2nd the Ultras are crap for the money, real reviews of it have started to surface as opposed to the freebie cheerleading squads that it was pimped to on its release
its marginal at best, irregardless of its parentage,
there are Deer power supplies working without issue, thats not a recommendation for the model, its the circumstances and the load they are working with

3rd OCZ doesnt make Power Supplies
the Powerstreams are Topower P6 power supplies and are quite good
the base models with a 3% load regulation
the Modstream is also a Topower, what basic model again likely a P6 from what I can tell
but in conversations with various OCZ insiders, they have alluded to a "special" build for the Powerstreams, which would possibly explain the difference between the specs they list and those that Topower does, as to if these extend to the Modstream as well being unknown

4th The Antec Neopower was just selected as the Top supply by Maximum PC
from the little Ive been able to find out (store was closed today), they seem to have employed a real test proceedure which was extreme (to the point of destructive)
and the Neopower actually survived a brownout down to 60 VAC (and kept working through it) the Ultra died altogether, the OCZ Powerstream faired less than expected
I'll be picking that review up tommorow

5th the Modstream is an ATX12V v1.3 supply w\ 28A on the single +12V rail
and seems to have been quickly cobbled together to meet the modular craze from what I can tell
whereas the Antec was a planned ATX12V v2.0 modular supply and has 18\16A respectively on the +12V1 & +12V2

Id say the Neopower or Modstream are "safe" bets, but the Superflower\TTGI still an unknown
and avoid the Leadmax\POWmax\Ultra-X altogether
while not a board killer like the rest of the supplies they make
its a suckers bet, your paying out the nose for a mediocre supply

and 6th, we have quite a few members with modular supplies
(a great number of them having gotten rid of their Ultra-X's)
though few if any with the SuperFlower\TTGI

PS TTGI \ Superflowers are likely manufactured by Topower as well
but there are several base models, past models seem to be PW series, which are basic complinace not exceeding compliance like the P6 series supplies
Ive yet to see the top popped on a modular TTGI
 
LyL18 said:
Okay, so i need a replace this crappy Raidmax PSU i got for free a year ago... I want something modular and sleeved, which usually come hand in hand. (other than the Antec NeoPower) Id like to stay under $100. The ones I've come across so far are:

Super Flower 550W
OCZ ModStream 450W
Ultra X-Connect 500W

Right now, the SuperFlower is looking like its going to be my choice because its the only one I havnt found any negative comments on... What do you guys think? Any other suggestions?

*Edit* I just noticed that the Super Flower is BTX...Will that fit in my Antec P160?
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Raidmax and ultra are made by the same company.
 
Ice Czar said:
PS TTGI \ Superflowers are likely manufactured by Topower as well
but there are several base models, past models seem to be PW series, which are basic complinace not exceeding compliance like the P6 series supplies
Ive yet to see the top popped on a modular TTGI
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First off, Czar, You rock :)

I thought I read somewhere that Super Flower was made by Enermax? If the NeoPower was sleeved, I'd definatly buy that, but I dont have the drive to sleeve something myself. Something about taking off all the connectors that makes me shy away from the idea.

The Ultra X-Connect is definatly marked off my list, and I am really considering this Super Flower. But the Modstream still seems pretty nice. AHHH decisions!
 
Ice Czar, did it cross your mind that the first ones might have been real and the new ones are the fakes?
 
The ultras arent made by powermax but a chinese psu manufacture you would have never heard of before, probably wintech. powermax dont make any of their psu's.

The reason why ocz didnt use the powerstream and put modular cables on it is that there is no space left in the powersupply since it has huge heatsinks and a push pull fan setup. All the other modular psu's have no fan where the modular cables connect for because their wouldnt be enough space.

Im not sure if the super flower will be a good psu because some of their models are identical to hiper and they have quite a high failure rate apparantly.
 
TDK said:
The ultras arent made by powermax but a chinese psu manufacture you would have never heard of before, probably wintech.
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http://www.powmax.com/mainpower.htm

and that company's name is Leadman Electronics
also the maker of such fine :rolleyes: brands as Robanton and RAIDmax


Xbrid said:
Ice Czar, did it cross your mind that the first ones might have been real and the new ones are the fakes?
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no
look at the attributed company
http://www.ultraproducts.com/companyprofile.php?osCsid=eebf14b5d4b11461ee98e00faa50c8de
a simple rebrander
 
Raidmax power supplies are made by topower, the ones on newegg anyway. I cant remember where but I did see psu's that were identical to the cheap powermax ones. Im sure powermax are a rebrander since they have all kinds of products on their site and they dont have a .com.tw
 
I got an Antec NEOPower, unsleeved of course. What exactly does sleeving do for you? Is it only for crowd control? Does it have no purpose other than that? If so I won't bother with sleeving.
 
Less Clutter, better air flow.. Looks nice! ;)

BigGreenMat said:
I got an Antec NEOPower, unsleeved of course. What exactly does sleeving do for you? Is it only for crowd control? Does it have no purpose other than that? If so I won't bother with sleeving.
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Antec Neopower. MaximumPC has an article about psu's this month. Neopower was the best they tested, as stated above. As far as sleeving goes, I would much rather have a dependable psu than pretty cables. If your psu sucks your in for a hell of a ride. The psu is the most important part in your system, don't fudge here, get what people have used and recommend. Again, Neopower is a tough choice to beat for the price. Oh, it's also very quiet. Sleeving isn't that hard to do, if you take your time. You can start with one cable, you probably won't use all of them, and when you finish, just replace it with one that isn't done and so on. Well worth the effort. I have done the sleeving on my Vantec 470 Stealth (black), my Thermaltake 480 (Uv green), but not my Neopower. I just routed the wires out of the way. Good luck and if need some help/advice feel free to pm me.
 
Rhentno said:
Antec Neopower. MaximumPC has an article about psu's this month. Neopower was the best they tested.
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I wouldnt go quite that far
features where heavilly weighted in the final tally
at the expense of power quality, which they didnt really test
it was flawed but somewhat indicitive review
 
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