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Can't decide, E2180 or E4400?

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Fel

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Newegg.com - Intel Dual-Core E2180 Allendale 2.0GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail

Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 Allendale 2.0GHz 2M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail

Ok, i'm out to buy a semi-budget build, and im having a tough time deciding between the two..

I plan on overclocking and playing high end games such as CS:S, BioShock, and Unreal Tournament 3..
 
It does, thanks.

You guys think the extra 12 fps is worth $40?
 
Check the OC charts for max OC on them. I think they both OC well, but can't vouch for either. I just know the e4300 OC'd will play all those games pretty well from a CPU standpoint. So either should be good as they can reach my OC I think.
 
I think the improvement in performance is definitely worth getting the E4400 for. It's still extremely inexpensive as it is.
 
Yea, the ''12fps bump'' is worth the 40$. You have to remember those tests are on great machines. If you're building a budget machine, you might be able to find a better increase in another component, but because of the situation now with Intel's products, I'd say its your best cheap bump-up. Go for it. It'll rock.
 
Fel said:
http://www.clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A1906910&cmp=AFC-CJ_CBIT

If i go with the E4400, would putting this heatsink on there make a difference?(already ordered it)

http://www.clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=CA1938430

I just found this E4400 for $20 cheaper than on Newegg, but it sais OEM. What is an OEM processor, just the processor itself, no heatsink?
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Yeah, OEM is a bare chip and lacking the 3 year warranty. But that cheaper price will help buy a nice heatsink/fan though.
 
Oops, no 3 year warranty? What's the deal with that?

I would rather pay the extra $20 for a heatsink and 3 year warranty if that's the case.
 
Fel said:
http://www.clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A1906910&cmp=AFC-CJ_CBIT

If i go with the E4400, would putting this heatsink on there make a difference?(already ordered it)

http://www.clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=CA1938430

I just found this E4400 for $20 cheaper than on Newegg, but it sais OEM. What is an OEM processor, just the processor itself, no heatsink?
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Yes, with that heatsink, you'll keep your CPU cooler than the stock heatsink. It was cheaper from Newegg, btw ($20 with $20MIR).

Yah, OEM is a 90-day warranty only. Go with a Retail Box instead.

I just noticed a M0 stepping for the E4400 on clubit.com... I wonder if it OCs better?
 
enginurd said:
Yes, with that heatsink, you'll keep your CPU cooler than the stock heatsink. It was cheaper from Newegg, btw ($20 with $20MIR).

Yah, OEM is a 90-day warranty only. Go with a Retail Box instead.

I just noticed a M0 stepping for the E4400 on clubit.com... I wonder if it OCs better?
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Don't think so. On average, all the e4xxx chips OC to the mid 3's. I'd just grab one, a nice heatsink and grab 3.33GHz and rock out.

Never had an issue with a retail vs. OEM CPU. I'll buy OEM anytime.
 
E4400 definately.

The only way I would buy an E2xxx series is if it were a hold over chip until I could afford a quad core. I was in the same position as you and decided to get the E4500. I haven't even really messed with over-clocking it too much, but I was able to get 2.93ghz by simply bumping the FSB to 266mhz, no voltage changes or anything. I intend to do more once I get my case and some better cooling.
 
Fel said:
Oops, no 3 year warranty? What's the deal with that?

I would rather pay the extra $20 for a heatsink and 3 year warranty if that's the case.
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if you are planning on OCing, then you dont need the warranty anyways...its voided once you mess with the proc
 
nigerian_businessman said:
thanks. it's nice to know i pay more for processors so ignorant people like yourself can burn yours up through inept overclocking and get rewarded with a new one.
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You ASSUME I burned mine up through inept OC'ing, yet you call me ignorant... LOL! Thanks for the compliment! I wasn't the one who burned the CPU, I was just the one who asked Intel to replace it... and they said YES. Furthermore, just so you know, instead of assuming (because we all know assuming makes an ass out of you... but not me), none of my personally OC'd CPUs have ever died.

Thanks for being smart enough to NOT ask Intel for a new CPU, if yours dies from OC'ing. Its nice to know they have an abundant supply for the rest of us "ignorant" people. Don't worry, I'm a stock holder... so I know all about their profit. And trust me, they're not hurting because of RMAs, lol.
 
nigerian_businessman said:
thanks. it's nice to know i pay more for processors so ignorant people like yourself can burn yours up through inept overclocking and get rewarded with a new one.
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I dont know how his CPU got shot, but there's no correlation between your paying more that's helping him at all.

You simply paid more for a hassle free return. He had to take a chance that they might have said no. Coming down on him because Intel decided to treat a customer right is illogical.

But unleash if ya want, it's the internet after all :)
 
RMA's cost the company money, and that money has to be replenished somehow. It's not about being too stupid to ask for one. I wouldn't because once you void the warranty by overclocking, if the processor dies you should accept that. It's called having morals, you should try it sometime.
 
nigerian_businessman said:
RMA's cost the company money, and that money has to be replenished somehow. It's not about being too stupid to ask for one. I wouldn't because once you void the warranty by overclocking, if the processor dies you should accept that. It's called having morals, you should try it sometime.
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LOL, someone named Nigerian businessman attacking someone over morals.

I could see if he rma'ed a few thousand dollars worth of processors, but come on. A couple hundred processor probably isnt more than a minute worth of an exec's time. BTW didnt Intel report an increase of 1.5 billion revenue this year?
 
nigerian_businessman said:
RMA's cost the company money, and that money has to be replenished somehow. It's not about being too stupid to ask for one. I wouldn't because once you void the warranty by overclocking, if the processor dies you should accept that. It's called having morals, you should try it sometime.
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Just because an overclocked CPU died doesn't mean it died because it was overclocked. I've run my own CPUs overclocked 24/7 for years and not a single one has ever died on me, and yet a friend of mine who never overclocked his CPU once just had to replace his P4 after it died on him. If a CPU is faulty it will die regardless of whether or not it is overclocked. I suggest you look up the definitions of the words correlation and causation; you may find they're not the same thing.
 
Alright, i've decided on the E4400 from Newegg. Thanks for the help :)
 
Fel said:
Oops, no 3 year warranty? What's the deal with that?

I would rather pay the extra $20 for a heatsink and 3 year warranty if that's the case.
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OEM's are for vendors or system builders that offer their own warranty on complete systems thus the 30 or 90 warranty from Intel. Stripped down parts, box, warranty, and PRICE because the end customer will never see them.
 
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