Can't decide, ATI or Nvidia

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mybrainisawaffle

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Right now I'm rocking a 6800GS. I have the money to upgrade to the current gen, but I just can't decide. I have the means to get a 7800GTX. or a x1800xt. I hear ATI has a better image quality, what exactly does this mean? What pros and cons do the two companies have against each other?
 
How deep are your pockets. Both cards you mentioned are already a mini-generation behind their own replacements the 7900 series and the x1900 series. Certainly you'd see an increase from a 6800gs but for just a few bucks more might as well maximize your system with a true current series card.

As far as image quality that's some what a matter of subjective opinion. Although in general ATi cards don't take as much of a performance hit when maxing out the AA and AF as compared with nvidia cards even in the 7800 and 7900 compared with x1800 or x1900.
 
You know this is strange. But I never thought there was anything to the "ATI has better picture quality" argument until I actually saw a side by side of a 7800GT and a X1800 running the same settings in Far Cry. I soon concluded that for some reason the image quality on the ATI was actually better / deeper / just clearer. Its hard to describe. :eek:

So yeah, I have a 7800GT but given the option I would possibly choose an ATI / AMD card now. The only thing that holds me back is $$ and ATI Drivers - they just don't appear to be as stable. But that could be argued as subjective.
 
Only as subjective as image quality is, unless you are trying to do anything 3d in linux. ATI is still the same old ATI. The merger wont make an impact at all until around 2008.
 
tenaciousgeek said:
You know this is strange. But I never thought there was anything to the "ATI has better picture quality" argument until I actually saw a side by side of a 7800GT and a X1800 running the same settings in Far Cry. I soon concluded that for some reason the image quality on the ATI was actually better / deeper / just clearer. Its hard to describe. :eek:

So yeah, I have a 7800GT but given the option I would possibly choose an ATI / AMD card now. The only thing that holds me back is $$ and ATI Drivers - they just don't appear to be as stable. But that could be argued as subjective.
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I think a lot of it is the AA & AF methods because without them the differences aren't so nearly as pronounced
 
I don't want to spend more than $240 ish. I can get a x1800xt for $200, or a 7800GT with a silencer rev5 for $225.
 
X1800XT is a bit faster then a GTX now, on release they were pretty close but driver updates have turned that around.

As for IQ, there pretty much the same. nvidia users just need to change settings to high quality since for some odd reason nvidia default it to Quality with annoying optimisations enabled which reduce IQ. You also get High Quality AF with the X1800XT which you will probably only notice in one or two games, a nice feature but I've never enabled it once in the last 6 months of owning a X1900XT.
 
Try not to think of it as NV vs ATi, but card vs card.

Out of the 7800GTX and X1800XT, I would get the XT. Its faster overall, in some games by a lot. To me has better IQ overall, not to mention HDR+AA/HQ AF. Just the better card for the money.
 
What sort of warranties can I get with Radeon. I really like with eVGA and BFG you get those really nice warranties, but I don't anything about Radeon manufacturers.
 
You also get High Quality AF with the X1800XT which you will probably only notice in one or two games, a nice feature but I've never enabled it once in the last 6 months of owning a X1900XT.
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Yeah the HQAF will only be helpful in any game that has terrain involved. Or has lots of curved surfaces with textures mapped to them. And it comes with almost no performance hit on the 1900 series cards(very small still on 1800 series) so leaving it on is a given.

There are also the new GDDR4 based cards about to be released so that could lower prices and make a 1900xt more affordable in the very near future.
 
i have a tough decision myself.... im neither fan-boy in fact im a no0b in graphic card.

ever since i joined this board ive been hearing alot of people worship ati.

heres what i think....

nvidia = brighter.... crisp and clear
ati = darker.... and sharper
 
luke51087 said:
7900gt faster then a 7800gtx can be had for 260- 30 rebates on newegg
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if 7800gtx and 7900gt only 2 card avalible in the world.... i would go for 7800gtx cuz it lo0ks bigger! tougher! and co0ler! yes i go for lo0ks!
 
mybrainisawaffle said:
Ended up buying a 7800GTX with a Silencer rev5 for $240. Thanks everyone.
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wow, you just bought an older inferior product for more ignoring everyones advice... Good going.. :D
 
mybrainisawaffle said:
Ended up buying a 7800GTX with a Silencer rev5 for $240. Thanks everyone.
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bravo! bravo! happy with ur decision..... 7800gtx is the way to go! 7900gt is jus evenly or ver very slightly better. comparison

if i were u i would choose the 7800gtx to0! 7800gtx is top of every 7800s! and u want to get top of everything! if u get 7900gt... ur not top! u must get 7900gtx! so 7800gtx is best! u got the power of GTX!!!!

dont listen to others... they tryin to make u regret! 7800gtx rules!

edit = i kno i sound like a no0b! but yeah i like 7800gtx better than 7900gt.... although i have not experience neither.
 
lmao just tryin to help him out

NewMonster said:
edit = i kno i sound like a no0b! but yeah i like 7800gtx better than 7900gt.... although i have not experience neither.
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LOL me either, i am stuck with the 7800gts, my brother has the 7900gt though he only had to RMA it once :D
 
YAY another one for Nvidia :D 7800GTX seems to be a wonderful card but I'm still using 6200tc and am happy until I get Oblivion then I may get a 6800 Xtreme because their price isn't bad and it'll be able to play Oblivion fine.
 
Why not get a 7900GT over a 7800GTX? And not that it makes a huge difference but going SLi is a bit easier than going crossfire.
 
ImNoGod said:
Wrong again

http://objection.4camp.net/go.php?n=368037
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Not hardly. Why even bother with the trolling? "again" implies more than once, again, not hardly.


NewMonster said:
bravo! bravo! happy with ur decision..... 7800gtx is the way to go! 7900gt is jus evenly or ver very slightly better. comparison

if i were u i would choose the 7800gtx to0! 7800gtx is top of every 7800s! and u want to get top of everything! if u get 7900gt... ur not top! u must get 7900gtx! so 7800gtx is best! u got the power of GTX!!!!

dont listen to others... they tryin to make u regret! 7800gtx rules!

edit = i kno i sound like a no0b! but yeah i like 7800gtx better than 7900gt.... although i have not experience neither.
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7800GTX and 7900GT even, or close? Sorry, thats far from the truth. Try looking at an actual review, instead of a page that compares specs. A X1800XT is generally faster than both, and cheaper. So it looks to me like he made the worst choice out of the three. But its his choice, hope hes happy with it.

Yeah, you do sound like a newb. Your words, not mine.
 
fallguy said:
Not hardly. Why even bother with the trolling? "again" implies more than once, again, not hardly.




7800GTX and 7900GT even, or close? Sorry, thats far from the truth. Try looking at an actual review, instead of a page that compares specs. A X1800XT is generally faster than both, and cheaper. So it looks to me like he made the worst choice out of the three. But its his choice, hope hes happy with it.

Yeah, you do sound like a newb. Your words, not mine.
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well... i thought this thread is all about 7800gtx vs 7900gt.... guess i didnt read the begining post from the op ! i must say x1800xt is a better choice than both 7900gt and 7800gtx.... in other words i agree with u
 
NewMonster said:
well... i thought this thread is all about 7800gtx vs 7900gt.... guess i didnt read the begining post from the op ! i must say x1800xt is a better choice than both 7900gt and 7800gtx.... in other words i agree with u
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He really has made the worst choice possible here,

X1800XT>7900GT>7800GTX

Bottom line is hes bought the slowest, hottest running card which uses the most power with the least possible chance of being able to overclock...

Whoever gave the guy advice to buy the GTX over a 7900GT or X1800XT should be banned for given truely bad advice. I would only give such advice to somebody I really hated.. :p

If I was him right now, id return the GTX and buy the 7900GT + Zalman VF900 and overclock the hell out of it.
 
fallguy said:
Not hardly. Why even bother with the trolling? "again" implies more than once, again, not hardly.

Yeah, you do sound like a newb.
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Why must you imply that I am a troll?


Where is your evidence?

Oh wait i'll save you some post time. Here are the same three pictures that are ALWAYS brought up in an image quailty debate.

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Oh and to top off your argument you will quote HardOCP or some other review site that says ATI has a slight advantage over NV in image quialty right now.

Lastly, on the record, I am not denying that there is "no image quailty difference" im simply saying it is not as apparent as some may have you believe *Cough cough RickCain cough fallguy cough cough*
 
I have no brand Loyalty.

But... I have had 5 Nvidia cards die on me, and 0 ATI cards. My Oldest Card is an ATi 3D Rage Pro Turbo, which was out about the same time as a VooDoo1 (Which is also still working)

Nuff Said...?

Not Really. ATI's Drivers have always been behind Nvidias IMO.

That said my most recent card was the 7800gt, and it is very fast, not sure why people need 2 $600 cards right now.. However Nvidias New Drivers Layout sucks, or well I don't like it..But Crossfire was release while I was building this rig, so Nvidia it was for me.
 
I think I'll be happy with what I bought. The most important thing to me was the double lifetime warranty. I coulod of gotten a x1800xt for $200 but it had no warranty, and what's an expensive card to me if it dies and I can't do shit about it?
 
I had a 7800GTX b4 my 7950, and was very happy with it.......

Woulda sold it to U for a good price too.....Say $200ish
 
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