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canon digital rebel?

d70 is more expensive, works a tad faster and has more options.

rebel is quite a bit cheaper, less options but still works great.

it all depends on what lenses you own, and if you dont own any, how much control you really need over your camera. i've played with both, the rebel yesterday, the d70 'feels' a bit better built to me, but i've been assured both are great pieces of gear... so it depends on what you mean by options.

-esr
 
The deciding factor for me was that $$ D70 == $$ DR+Zoom Lens and change. You just have to weigh that against the extra features of the D70 -- are they worth ~$300 to you?
 
lomn75 said:
The deciding factor for me was that $$ D70 == $$ DR+Zoom Lens and change. You just have to weigh that against the extra features of the D70 -- are they worth ~$300 to you?

I'm not psychic but I don't think the OP is a big photography guru. If he was, he'd probably already have another camera and is considering this one as his second purchase to have a back up body lying around just in case his current one messes up. These are the kind of people who are using the extra features that the D70 has to offer over the 300D. Not the kind of people like the OP, I don't think. For an amateur photographer just getting into SLR, $300 is $300 too much for features that may take a year or two for the OP to even grasp if he even wants to grasp them... a lot of people just keep the camera on full auto!

that said, I'd get the 300D, but I'm a cost-conscious consumer. Not only is the camera cheaper and lighter (some people think it's TOO light, though), but the 300D also accepts Canon's line or lenses -- Nikon lenses are generally not given as much press. I don't know anything about Nikon's 28-70 mm (am I right on that?) lens bundled with a D70 kit, but I've heard nice things about the EF 18-55 bundled with a 300D kit and I have seen nice results photographically.

I think the people who automatically proclaim "D70!" whenever someone is asking a question about a 300D, is really not thinking realistically. Maybe the D70 should be compared to a Canon 10D or some such thing.
 
mdude85 said:
I'm not psychic but I don't think the OP is a big photography guru. If he was, he'd probably already have another camera and is considering this one as his second purchase to have a back up body lying around just in case his current one messes up. These are the kind of people who are using the extra features that the D70 has to offer over the 300D. Not the kind of people like the OP, I don't think. For an amateur photographer just getting into SLR, $300 is $300 too much for features that may take a year or two for the OP to even grasp if he even wants to grasp them... a lot of people just keep the camera on full auto!
I concur. I consider myself a reasonably advanced SLR user, but even I don't have a realistic handle on those $300 features. I'm coming up from a camera that could set shutter speed automatically, everything else manual, so notions like super-burst-mode just don't strike me as a wow-gotta-have-it factor.
 
it all depends on what lenses you own, and if you dont own any, how much control you really need over your camera.

I really didnt care that you had decided on the D70 but now i'm bothered because aparently you didnt quiet understand what i'm saying.

Buying an SLR should have less to do with the body and more to do with the lenses...period, only if or but about it is if you have an unlimited amount of income and can switch back and forth from nikon to canon whenever you feel like it (lets face it, there is really only two choices).

I spent $999 on my camera body and a cheap lens. I spent $950 on a used telephoto zoom...which one do you think i will still own in 4 years?

What i'm saying is your initial purchase will most likely be an expensive camera and a cheap lens but that will qiuckly change, i can assure you of this. Soon you will find yourself spending money on a flash, then lenses, and then i'm sure you will want to upgrade. But are you going to switch to the other brand now because they have a better camera? I dont think so, not with all the money you've invested in lenses and a flash or two.

You need to buy an SLR based on what lenses you think you will need and what company offers better lenses for you. It doesnt matter if it means cheaper, it doesnt matter if it means higher quality, simply whatever is best for you.

Why did i go Canon? First of all i already owned a few crapy sigma EOS lenses. Second i've been using canon since i was 5. But lastly, and most importantly i intend on getting into sports photography, canon is known for it's high quality fast telephoto lenses.

It is no chance that canon outnumbers nikon 8 to 1 in this photo...there are reasons for it.

Photo copyright ©ShellyCastellano
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In the end, the choice is yours, but just make sure your making it for the right reason.

www.antiwall.com I'm not all that great, but all of these photos were taken with a 300D. Also do a search on pbase.com for the 300D and the D70. I think you'd be suprised to find that the differences in image quality dont differ all that much.

Hope that helps...
 
mmm just played with the 300d again for hours... now im vacilating again... shoots nice pictures of fireworks :-p
 
esr2 said:
mmm just played with the 300d again for hours... now im vacilating again... shoots nice pictures of fireworks :-p

dont do any searches to check on the shutter life of the 300d then. Apparently its not super long. You have to pay for their pro cameras to get the long shutter life. But on the upside, the shutter is replaceable by their service dept.
 
ambientZ said:
dont do any searches to check on the shutter life of the 300d then. Apparently its not super long. You have to pay for their pro cameras to get the long shutter life. But on the upside, the shutter is replaceable by their service dept.

the shutter life is probably comparable to that on a 10D -- which probably is a pro camera in your book but I don't know.

That said, the 300D is a pro camera from Canon, even if it's targeted to consumers first and foremost.
 
mdude85 said:
the shutter life is probably comparable to that on a 10D -- which probably is a pro camera in your book but I don't know.

That said, the 300D is a pro camera from Canon, even if it's targeted to consumers first and foremost.

nah, i mean the 1D (mark2) or 1Ds, in their specs they rate the shutters to 100k - 300k cycles.

300d is definately a consumer product, 10d probably is as well.
 
yeah, either way, just grab an extended warrenty. $100 for four years at bestbuy, that's my plan (regaurdless of which brand i choose)
 
esr2 said:
yeah, either way, just grab an extended warrenty. $100 for four years at bestbuy, that's my plan (regaurdless of which brand i choose)

Not only that, but when i got my camera it had a 12 month 0 intrest plan :cool:
 
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