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Can Technology Convincingly Replicate Actors

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After the death of Philip Seymour Hoffman the question of digitally replacing actors is in the news again. Who knows? They did a pretty good job making a younger version of Jeff Bridges for Tron and that was almost 5 years ago.

"These days the technology of using someone's likeness is a whole lot easier to do," he said. "I won't say you could generate a Philip Seymour Hoffman with all the acting ability, but you could certainly replicate him for a shot or two."
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The animation (typically too fast/smooth) and lighting (giving things a certain sheen/gloss) always gives it away.
 
Even older... 2009 technology:
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Looking forward to the day when most these pompous clueless actors are replaced by some geek with a keyboard.
 
They do a pretty excellent job with those direct tv commercials.

I know it's not the same since they are just making old actors look young but as the technology progresses I'm sure replacing them with similar looking actors as a base or replacing them all together would be feasible.
 
Even around 10 years ago they would replace actors bodies with another persons all they cared about was the head :) Like for example move ( pretty woman ) you think that was her body ? NOT ! They also perform this like backgrounds, add in people etc for propaganda news watched on main tv networks. A typical easier way is to use blue screens and have footage taken played behind them and have the person stand within the picture ... ya know like they fake bs footage they show with some the school shootings. You can't believe anything anymore that you see.
 
Tron Legacy was released Dec. 17th 2014 so that was a little over three years ago.
 
nutzo said:
Looking forward to the day when most these pompous clueless actors are replaced by some geek with a keyboard.
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That will be about as entertaining as reading Asperger rants on the internet.
 
Well, so long as they start with the ones with little to no personality like Paul Walker they just might be able to pull it off.
 
SGA76 said:
Well, so long as they start with the ones with little to no personality like Paul Walker they just might be able to pull it off.
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They probably will have to for Fast & Furious 7.

That said I heard they did it with Heath Ledger for Dark Knight Rises as there was a few scenes not done. They did it years ago with The Crow as Brandon Lee was killed on set during filming.

For somebody that isn't on screen all the time and you don't see close up very often, I can see this working. They have put faces on other people for years. Pretty Woman and Jurassic Park (scene with the girl almost falling out of the vent wasn't her but was a stunt double. she looked up at the camera so they had to add the actress's face in). It is when you need audio though that is when it gets harder.
 
If I recall correctly they did an "awesome" job using Bruce Lee's on top of the other actor on Game of Death back then :D
 
I bet they could already mimic the acting ability of Keanu Reeves pretty easily, and the graphics would be pretty good.
 
Digital actor models is the future.
Movies will no longer have single camera angles for scenes, but may allow free movement/rotation, or restrict to pre-selected camera views selected by artists as alternate ways to interact with a scene/event.
We will see our entertainment evolve to contain both static and dynamic aspects within which the audience may explore. An ideal to maximize upon, maximizing interactivity while maintaining a structured core experience/story. A digital environment can provide this level of immersion where conventional media inevitably falls short. Costs of filming/finding locations, finding locations,staff, restriction in vision with respect to how the actors irrevocably perform.

The logic is all there, and it's overwhelmingly in support of the transition to make an experience as engaging and immersive as possible. This means all digital. This is the future as I'm sure many on similar forums have already seen.
 
They said they can easily deal with it, they will just place the supplementary actor at the side of the shot, standing sideways and maybe out of focus.
 
They already did it with Gladiator I think, back in 1999 when they were filming. Oliver Reed had a sudden heart attack, and they finished his remaining scenes with CGI and a mannequin.
 
Exavior said:
They probably will have to for Fast & Furious 7.

That said I heard they did it with Heath Ledger for Dark Knight Rises as there was a few scenes not done. They did it years ago with The Crow as Brandon Lee was killed on set during filming.
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The thing with those two examples is there was a LOT of footage that movies shoot that is eventually scrapped, literally more stuff is not used than is used in a movie. So they had various images of the actors that they only need to move around in a scene, so it's not exactly digital actors, they're simply changing backgrounds, essentially doing green screen type of stuff.

That said, I'm curious what they'll do with Paul Walker, I mean are they going to kill him in the movie? (kind of tacky) or are they going to let him go off into the sunset? (Jordana Brewster won't like that either as she presumably wants to keep getting her paycheck).
 
Most actors just play the same role over and over...don't see why you can't CGI that after they do a few movies.
 
Movies will no longer have single camera angles for scenes, but may allow free movement/rotation, or restrict to pre-selected camera views selected by artists as alternate ways to interact with a scene/event. We will see our entertainment evolve to contain both static and dynamic aspects within which the audience may explore.
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Maybe, but I don't care to see it. Call me old fashioned or out of touch but I like seeing a great actor work. On a personal level I think Johney Depp is a douche, and I don't give a damn on his opinion about anything in this world. But I do like to see him act.

I like to see other really good actors and actresses do their thing on stage. But that's as far as it goes.

I like to see a great director create a great scene. I'm an amateur, why would I want to see my own crap? Even more, why would I want to pay for something I am making, sheesh, this is just a way for the studios to leave the high priced actors and good directors behind. They will save those costs and try to convince us this is better. It's a way to remove the art while adding us and trying to capitalize on our own vanity.

Next step, we'll be the actors and it will be the same thing as playing Skyrim, but cost alot more and they will insist it's movie making..
 
jbltecnicspro said:
They already did it with Gladiator I think, back in 1999 when they were filming. Oliver Reed had a sudden heart attack, and they finished his remaining scenes with CGI and a mannequin.
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Can't wait for Ballywood to attempt this...

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