Calibrating the NEC P221W

kitjv

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If I were to use the Xrite Eye One Display 2 colorimeter to calibrate/profile the NEC P221W monitor, would it be preferable to use the bundled Eye One Match software or NEC's SpectaView II software?

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Use the Spectraview II software. It should give better results as it talks directly to the monitor.
 

kitjv

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That certainly is understandable. Thank you.

However, I forgot to mention another concern. How accurately will the standard Eye One Display 2 (using the SpectraView II software) work with the wide-gamut NEC P221W? I understand that the NECs SpectraView II hardware is a modified Eye One Display 2 unit designed for the wide gamut NEC.
 
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I understand that the NECs SpectraView II hardware is a modified Eye One Display 2 unit designed for the wide gamut NEC.
There are some serious problems with WCG displays and colorimeters (even if many are advertised as WCG capable) - yes. But a correction should be implemented within SV II for all supported probes (that is what also Eizo is doing in color navigator). If you have the possibility (borrow?) you can make a reference measurement with a spectrophotometer to be on the safe side.

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Pardon my tech illiteracy, Denis. but your response simply flew over my head.

Allow me to rephrase: Can I accurately (at least within visible limits) calibrate/profile the NEC P221W monitor with a standard Eye One Display 2 colorimeter using either the bundled Eye One Match software or the SpectraView II software? Or do I need NEC's proprietary SpectraView II colorimeter?

Pardon my thick-headedness.
 
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Can I accurately (at least within visible limits) calibrate/profile the NEC P221W monitor with a standard Eye One Display 2 colorimeter using either the bundled Eye One Match software or the SpectraView II software?
There should be no problem if you use SV II and a standard EyeOne Display2. I assume that NEC has implemented appropriate corrections in their software for the supported probes and displays (when we will test the next NEC I can check this in detail - but this doesn't help you now of course). Have you already got an EyeOne Display2? To minimize risk you could take the bundle from NEC.

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kitjv

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No, I do not have the Eye One Display 2 or any other colorimeter at this time.

Here is my dilemma: I plan to buy the NEC P221W monitor. Also buying the SV II kit makes sense since it was developed for the wide-gamut monitor. However, I would prefer to buy a colorimeter that I can also use on my other monitors, as well as monitors I might acquire in the future.

It is my understanding the "standard" Eye One Display 2 colorimeter might not work properly with the wide-gamut NEC P221W, even if I were to use the SV II software.

Thanks, Denis, for your help.
 

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Wide gamut monitors are supported by the Eye One Display 2 colorimeter.
Please note that the Eye One Display 2 is not recommended for LED monitors (no LED calibration table) nor Plasma (as it is not temperature compensated).

As for the calibration sofware, I recommend CalMan if you have the budget.
Alternatively, the ColorHCFR v2.0 software can be downloaded for free.
 
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Wide gamut monitors are supported by the Eye One Display 2 colorimeter.
That is the problem I have mentioned. The manufacturers say that they are capable for displays with WCG-CCFL BLU but (not only; see the links) we have run into serious problems with colorimeters and at least some corresponding screens. Only with a known combination of probe and display, so that a correction can be implemented via software (or directly in hardware), you will get reliable results. I have mentioned Eizo and color navigator but Quato has a correction in iColor for their displays too - they even implemented generic corrections in the last version of iColor (which isn't a true solution but it shows that there is an awareness). If you understand german I can offer a quite interesting and up to date document of the fogra:

http://www.fogra.org/products-de/download/Sonderdruck21.pdf

but you can also have a look here:

http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=39209&st=0&p=324899&#entry324899

While evaluating the situation I have also spoken with the UGRA and got the same informations. So far the problem itself is not widely known but it should be taken serious.

As for the calibration sofware, I recommend CalMan if you have the budget.
CalMAN and HCFR are not the appropriate products for a managed ICC workflow as they (among other things) don't profile the screen. They are designed for TV-screens - especially if they have a CMS.

Best regards

Denis
 
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kitjv

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Wide gamut monitors are supported by the Eye One Display 2 colorimeter.
I'm confused. It is my understanding that NEC's proprietary version of the Eye One Display 2 (i.e. the SpectraView II puck) was developed for wide-gamut displays like the NEC P221W since the "standard" Eye One Display 2 would not give accurate results.
 
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It is my understanding that NEC's proprietary version of the Eye One Display 2 (i.e. the SpectraView II puck) was developed for wide-gamut displays like the NEC P221W since the "standard" Eye One Display 2 would not give accurate results.
As I said - unfortunately I'm not absolute sure that NEC offers a correction via SV II - especially after looking at their page and seeing how they advertise "their" EOD2. I think that I would buy this bundled version as there could be a correction in hardware (and not via software) in this case. We have overlooked the problem with colorimeters self for a quite long time so I can at the moment offer no reference measurments for current NEC screens.

Best regards

Denis
 

kitjv

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FWIW, an email from Datacolor said that their Spyder3 is compatibile w/ wide-gamut displays, especially when used w/ SpectraView II software on NEC displays.

I understand the counter-arguments in the quest for absolute perfection. But in the real practical world, this might be an option to NEC's SV II hardware/software bundle. Nevertheless, I'm still on the fence.
 
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