Bulletstorm, anyone interested?

Yeah. The game looked interesting and I like People Can Fly, but I have no interest in supporting Epic at least on the PC and consoles.
 
I didnt take it any farther. Wasnt worth it me against the entire console world. I love PC way over a damn console. Let em keep their Under-powered consoles. We have Devs that still support us & do a good job at it
 
The game looks like Gears of War and Duke Nukem put together...it is relevant to my interests.
 
I see it as the pc demo would be so awesome compared it would tank the console sales. :)
 
Krieger91 said:
I miss the days when Epic made Unreal.
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Me too. Those games weren't complicated and they did one thing and did it well and they were hella fun. Sadly this is what happens more often than not when a company gets a lot of money together , quality seems to just go out the window.
 
jiminator said:
I see it as the pc demo would be so awesome compared it would tank the console sales. :)
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More like this game will be extremely shallow and a demo would be all that PC gamers could take. I doubt this will be something you'll play to progress through, and mindless killing can only hold someone's attention for so long. Without a demo they can pull in th gamers that bye the hype.
 
You know what is funny is that a couple of the user comments on Twitter in my argument said stuff like "So we can get the game for Free" blah blah. Look at the 360 & the Wii they are both Hacked systems & Hugely pirated.

Its just a lame excuse from Lazy Devs who dont want to take the time to actually put in the man hours for the PC. So they just give us a shit hole port
 
4LC4PON3 said:
I didnt take it any farther. Wasnt worth it me against the entire console world. I love PC way over a damn console. Let em keep their Under-powered consoles. We have Devs that still support us & do a good job at it
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Reading all those posts, I have one question that always comes to mind when I see garbage like that. What do they all think games are made on? Video games come from thin air or that they are made on a console? Maybe all these dorks think that people sit at a desk and tinker with a dvd and it creates a game.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at "People still use pc for gaming?" and "Pc is only good for facebook and porn".
 
There was a new trailer for this game posted recently in which a female and a male dev. started boasting about how good their game was - kind of a turn off, if you ask me.
 
WabeWalker said:
There was a new trailer for this game posted recently in which a female and a male dev. started boasting about how good their game was - kind of a turn off, if you ask me.
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Isn't that what all developer diaries are? They're just a PR tool and a way for the developers to say "we're awesome and our game is awesome, buy it".
 
Twitter...for users who struggle stringing a single sentence together, let alone an entire paragraph.

/sigh.

The jack ass complains about piracy on PC but refuses to do the one thing that will likely alleviate it.
 
Derangel said:
Isn't that what all developer diaries are? They're just a PR tool and a way for the developers to say "we're awesome and our game is awesome, buy it".
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I thought they were trying too hard to sell us their game. It's like a person who's trying to be funny - you just want them to stop.

The game should sell itself if it's good. I haven't seen enough of this. I guess I'll play the demo for the 360.
 
I'll be picking this up. Looks fun. Currently going back and replaying Crysis and Warhead with my new rig. This will be my next FPS.
 
WabeWalker said:
I've never bought a game because of the kick ass marketing campaign.
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Maybe you haven't, but a hell of a lot more people than just you certainly have. And without marketing, how do you expect people to find out about games? Have you ever heard about a game for the first time from a large conference like E3 or the Spike VGAs? Do you think that isn't marketing?
 
Fuck Epic! I will NEVER buy any of your games ever again. WE MADE YOU. and by WE I mean the PC community. Regardless of your joking or not its just a dick move. After the POS you sold me called Unreal Tournament 3 and calling pc gamers pirates I will never support anything you ever do.
 
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You guys are making me bitter about Epic's attitude towards PC, heh.

This game might be a "try" and then when it's on sale for $10 it'll be a buy. :cool:
 
Well, I was interested in Bulletstorm, seems like it'll be a fun game. But CliffyB and his constant ragging on the PC community kinda makes me lose all will to give Epic my money. At first, the no demo on PC thing was a minor bummer, but I could have just gone and downloaded it on my 360. Now, after Cliffy's comments on twitter about PC gamers being "grumpy", it seems like he's just trying to piss people off.
 
Like I said the only reason I said F epic games & your no PC supporting asses is because for the past couple of months I have randomly asked cliffy why there is no Gears support on PC. He gave us Gears 1 & that was it. You always see him on Twitter answering Console users questions but NEVER a question about PC.

So I typed that & within 15-20 mins he responds wich just goes to show me that he could care less about the PC community & is all about the Consoles. Its pretty sad really. Most of the users said Why should we bring games to the PC so u can get them for free? im thinking in my head wait isnt the 360 a modded Console with a Massive Pirate base as well as the PC? I like the Gears Series myself I played 1-2 & enjoyed them & I even have Gears 1 on PC wich came with Extra levels the consoles didnt get. PC users need to unit and go to the Epic Facility & drop turds on the sidewalk

Will PC users support Bullet Storm Yes. Will I? NO. Someone Buy my a plane ticket to Epic games I will crap on their side walk & put 4LC4PON3 next to the turd in big letters :) ill takes pics of course.
 
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Like I said the only reason I said F epic games & your no PC supporting asses is because for the past couple of months I have randomly asked cliffy why there is no Gears support on PC. He gave us Gears 1 & that was it. You always see him on Twitter answering Console users questions but NEVER a question about PC.

So I typed that & within 15-20 mins he responds wich just goes to show me that he could care less about the PC community & is all about the Consoles. Its pretty sad really. Most of the users said Why should we bring games to the PC so u can get them for free? im thinking in my head wait isnt the 360 a modded Console with a Massive Pirate base as well as the PC? I like the Gears Series myself I played 1-2 & enjoyed them & I even have Gears 1 on PC wich came with Extra levels the consoles didnt get. PC users need to unit and go to the Epic Facility & drop turds on the sidewalk

Will PC users support Bullet Storm Yes. Will I? NO
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I also have Gears on PC, but it really pissed me off when I found they had no support for the other ones. There's no excuse why they shouldn't, last time I checked there were just as many console games on torrent sites as pc games. And what's all this news about modded consoles getting banned or something like that I heard earlier? Sounds like pirates to me. Just lazy developers is all, don't give them $ unless the game is on steam for $5.
 
No demo = no sale. Unless I can buy the game for less than $5 I won't buy any game that I can't play a demo/trial for first these days.
 
brennok said:
No demo = no sale. Unless I can buy the game for less than $5 I won't buy any game that I can't play a demo/trial for first these days.
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No joke, for a company that made their name off PC games they are pretty smug and arrogant these days!
 
spindoctor said:
So you've never seen videos or screenshots or previews or dev diaries or interviews for a game and decided to buy it? What else do you think marketing is?
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You're just plain wrong.

Marketing is typically defined as the advertising a company does for their software, whether they have to pay for it, or whether they have to get out and start waving a flag. The company has control over this. They spend money, or exert energy, in order to get THEIR message across.

I repeat: I've never bought a game... ever... because of a marketing strategy.

Rather, I get my information from independent sources, such as PC Gamer, Gamespot, 1UP, The Giant Bomb or IGN - to name just a few sources that report about games. These independents are not there to do what the developers tell them to - they're there to serve the interests of gamers. Period. If any independent reporting agency were to take part in the marketing campaign for a game, I would instantly remove them from my bookmarks bar - and I suspect that the vast majority of gamers would do likewise.

Why do you think there was such an uproar when Jeff Gerstmann was fired from Gamespot? Gamers were sickened that a marketing campaign had spilled over and contaminated what gamers have always held sacred - namely, the independent views of one person. The publisher of Kane & Lynch had spent so much money marketing their game at Gamespot that they felt the review should reflect this - essentially, they felt the review should become a part of the marketing campaign itself.

Nope. Doesn't work that way.

Nobody in their right mind is going to visit Gamespot, or IGN, or The Giant Bomb, or 1UP, or read PC Gamer Magazine, so that they can watch an advertisement and be influenced by it.

You've got it all wrong.

An independent website will of course post screenshots of a game - but that doesn't mean they're willing to take part in the marketing campaign. If the developer were to grant them an interview, then it would be the duty of that website to challenge the developer during the interview, not to allow them to control it. You seem to think that when screenshots are posted at a website, or when an interview is granted, that this is part of the marketing campaign - that's just plain silly. These reporting agencies are simply reporting on the game, nothing more.

Any gaming website, if they actually were to take part in the marketing campaign - as Gamespot clearly did with its review of Kane & Lynch - would lose serious credibility with gamers, which is clearly what happened to Gamespot as the result of removing its original review of Kane & Lynch.

Score of the debate so far.

WabeWalker: 1,000,000,000 - Everyone else: nothing.
 
Where do you think those independent news outlets get their information from? Screenshots, trailers, press releases, etc. are all released by developers and publishers to these outlets in order to receive exposure. In exchange, the news outlets publish stories about these games to attract visitors, generating page views and advertising revenue. That's how the industry works. You'd have to be quite naive to think that none of that is marketing. Gaming news sites may report on news in an objective manner, but it's still a way for developers and publishers to get the word out about their games. It's a form of marketing, just like any other.
 
WabeWalker said:
You're just plain wrong.

Marketing is typically defined as the advertising a company does for their software, whether they have to pay for it, or whether they have to get out and start waving a flag. The company has control over this. They spend money, or exert energy, in order to get THEIR message across.

I repeat: I've never bought a game... ever... because of a marketing strategy.

Rather, I get my information from independent sources, such as PC Gamer, Gamespot, 1UP, The Giant Bomb or IGN - to name just a few sources that report about games. These independents are not there to do what the developers tell them to - they're there to serve the interests of gamers. Period. If any independent reporting agency were to take part in the marketing campaign for a game, I would instantly remove them from my bookmarks bar - and I suspect that the vast majority of gamers would do likewise.

Why do you think there was such an uproar when Jeff Gerstmann was fired from Gamespot? Gamers were sickened that a marketing campaign had spilled over and contaminated what gamers have always held sacred - namely, the independent views of one person. The publisher of Kane & Lynch had spent so much money marketing their game at Gamespot that they felt the review should reflect this - essentially, they felt the review should become a part of the marketing campaign itself.

Nope. Doesn't work that way.

Nobody in their right mind is going to visit Gamespot, or IGN, or The Giant Bomb, or 1UP, or read PC Gamer Magazine, so that they can watch an advertisement and be influenced by it.

You've got it all wrong.

An independent website will of course post screenshots of a game - but that doesn't mean they're willing to take part in the marketing campaign. If the developer were to grant them an interview, then it would be the duty of that website to challenge the developer during the interview, not to allow them to control it. You seem to think that when screenshots are posted at a website, or when an interview is granted, that this is part of the marketing campaign - that's just plain silly. These reporting agencies are simply reporting on the game, nothing more.

Any gaming website, if they actually were to take part in the marketing campaign - as Gamespot clearly did with its review of Kane & Lynch - would lose serious credibility with gamers, which is clearly what happened to Gamespot as the result of removing its original review of Kane & Lynch.

Score of the debate so far.

WabeWalker: 1,000,000,000 - Everyone else: nothing.
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You can flatter yourself all you like, but you absolutely have bought a game because of the marketing before, whether you were aware of it or not.
 
Lack of a PC demo still annoys me. Painkiller had a demo...


Jellylesg said:
You can flatter yourself all you like, but you absolutely have bought a game because of the marketing before, whether you were aware of it or not.
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Don't feed the troll.
 
eh, ea is a bunch of dicks. I don't feel the same though about PCF. I'll still support the game.
 
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