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PhantmShado

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Kyle has given official word, 1.5 hours until performance of this proc is known. Should it do well, I want to be ready to order,
1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing? etc
Gonna be a bit shared so: Gaming, web browsing, encoding (hd video included hopefully), maya, photoshop, some number crunching if I finally can probably
2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?
2500 including tax and shipping
3) Which country do you live in? If the U.S, please tell us the state and city if possible.
Seattle, WA
4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. The word "Everything" is not a valid answer. Please list out all the parts you'll need.
CPU (FX 8150 in this build), heatsink, mobo, ram, case (I'd really like the silverstone ft02b so that's prob set), psu, ssd, optical drive(want cdrw, dvdrw, bluray reading, bluray writing really don't need)
5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? Please be especially specific about the power supply. List make and model.
monitor, mouse, keyboard, sound setup, hd 6970, storage raid on areca ( ARC-1210)
6) Will you be overclocking?
Yes
7) What is the max resolution of your monitor? What size is it?
2560x1600, 30"
8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?
ASAP or not at all
9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? USB 3.0? SATA 6Gb/s? eSATA? Onboard video? etc.
optical spdif, sata 6gb/s for ssd, usb 3.0 as it would be ridiculous not to get at this point. Can't think of anything else.
10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license? If yes, what OS? Is it 32bit or 64bit?
No. I'm thinking a win7 64 bit ultimate.

Anyway, would love to know what the top picks are to get a newegg cart ready in case it impresses. Thanks.
 
PhantmShado said:
Anyway, would love to know what the top picks are to get a newegg cart ready in case it impresses. Thanks.
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It doesn't impress at all from the reviews I'm seeing. Still want that build list? An Intel one this time?
 
Prelim build:

$505 - Core i7 2600K + Corsair HX1050 1050W Modular PSU
$285 - Asus P8Z68-V Pro Intel Z68 ATX Motherboard + Corsair Vengeance CML16GX3M4A1600C9B 4 x 4GB DDR3 1600 RAM
$198 - Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SSD
$65 - Hitachi Desktar 7K1000.D HDS721010DLE630 1TB SATA 6.0Gb/s Hard Drive
$60 - Samsung Blu-ray DVD Reader & DVD Burner
$230 - Silverstone FT02B ATX Case
$60 - Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid Cooling System
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Total: $1403 plus tax and shipping.
 
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Thanks very much, gonna make some adjustments here:

$505 - Core i7 2600K + Corsair HX1050 1050W Modular PSU
$285 - Asus P8Z68-V Pro Intel Z68 ATX Motherboard + Corsair Vengeance CML16GX3M4A1600C9B 4 x 4GB DDR3 1600 RAM
$388 - Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SSD
$60 - Samsung Blu-ray DVD Reader & DVD Burner
$230 - Silverstone FT02B ATX Case
$60 - Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid Cooling System
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Total: $1528 plus tax and shipping.

I upped the storage capacity of the solid state as it was in budget and newegg reports the write speeds as a lot faster (also, I would seriously like more fast access space while in budget). I kept the same model while doing this as I bow to your knowledge in that area, please tell me if something goes wrong if you increase capacity on these. I removed the hard drive as the raid I am transferring has 4.5 usable TB.

At this point I still have plenty left over for a windows. One question. That psu even with a combo deal seems kind of high. If you assure me of its quality over the cheaper options, I will follow your lead, but it seems there are gold rated ones that should power my system by reputable brands, ex: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256066

Would that one not be a good pick?
 
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PhantmShado said:
I kept the same model while doing this as I bow to your knowledge in that area, please tell me if something goes wrong if you increase capacity on these.
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Nothing wrong with increasing capacity.
PhantmShado said:
At this point I still have plenty left over for a windows.
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Do note that unless you're planning on using a lot of the features found in Windows Ultimate, Windows 7 Home Premium will be enough.

PhantmShado said:
One question. That psu even with a combo deal seems kind of high. If you assure me of its quality over the cheaper options, I will follow your lead, but it seems there are gold rated ones that should power my system by reputable brands, ex: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256066

Would that one not be a good pick?
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That Silverstone is a good PSU and will be more than enough for your needs but it is a tad overpriced once you factor in shipping. That Silverstone is $166 shipped. The Corsair 1050HX is $196 shipped with the combo deal. Only a small difference of $30 considering your high budget. For $30 more, you are indeed getting a good quality PSU. As for the Silver VS Gold rating, for all intents and purposes, it really doesn't matter outside of a few situations.

Though, even if you want a $166 shipped Gold modular 750W PSU, I'd recommend this Seasonic instead due to its longer warranty:
$166 - Seasonic X750 Gold 750W Modular PSU

Though this PSU is a really good deal:
$138 - NZXT HALE90-750-M 750W Modular PSU
 
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Thanks very much, gonna make the psu adjustment here:

$314 - Core i7 2600K
$138 - NZXT HALE90-750-M 750W Modular PSU
$285 - Asus P8Z68-V Pro Intel Z68 ATX Motherboard + Corsair Vengeance CML16GX3M4A1600C9B 4 x 4GB DDR3 1600 RAM
$388 - Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SSD
$60 - Samsung Blu-ray DVD Reader & DVD Burner
$230 - Silverstone FT02B ATX Case
$60 - Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid Cooling System
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Total: $1475 plus tax and shipping.

New question. I see that my video card is a pci-e 16x and my raid card is pci-e x 8x. While I'm sure that the video card will run in a 8x slot, do I lose performance by doing so? I ask as with the recommended mobo I could not run both of these parts at these speeds. Wondering if it affects performance at all?
 
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If you put something else in the other upper x16 slot, then both of the top slots will run at x8. However, it won't make any difference to your video card performance, so I wouldn't worry about it. You could also put the RAID card in the bottom black slot, but then it would run at x4 instead of x8, which might limit its performance.
 
Here's my 2 cents

I'd recommend you upgrade to the Antec 920 or the Corsair H80 for overclocking. The Antec 920 is basically the same as the H70 (which is what I use) and does a better job at keeping the cpu cool the the 620 (Corsair H50). The H80 outperforms both. Even if you don't want to overclock as high, you can run the two stock fans at a slower speed (less noise)
Antec 920 - 106.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835209054
Corsair H80 - 93.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181016

Get the Corsair PSU, it's a much better quality power supply and that's one area of a build you don't want to skimp out on. Heck i'd go with the stock cooler before I'd downgrade the PSU.

If the HX1050 is too much for the budget, the HX850 is a nice quality unit and only a few bucks more then the NZXT one. I just couldn't run a power supply who's name is "Super Flower Golden Green" and rebadged as NZXT in a white paint scheme with a 2600k and High End SSD, that just screams problem to me.
169.99 - Corsiar HX850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011
 
PhantmShado said:
Thanks very much, gonna make the psu adjustment here:

$314 - Core i7 2600K
$138 - NZXT HALE90-750-M 750W Modular PSU
$285 - Asus P8Z68-V Pro Intel Z68 ATX Motherboard + Corsair Vengeance CML16GX3M4A1600C9B 4 x 4GB DDR3 1600 RAM
$388 - Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SSD
$60 - Samsung Blu-ray DVD Reader & DVD Burner
$230 - Silverstone FT02B ATX Case
$60 - Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid Cooling System
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Total: $1475 plus tax and shipping.

New question. I see that my video card is a pci-e 16x and my raid card is pci-e x 8x. While I'm sure that the video card will run in a 8x slot, do I lose performance by doing so? I ask as with the recommended mobo I could not run both of these parts at these speeds. Wondering if it affects performance at all?
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This is a pretty good build. But, I would do this,

Core i7 2600K from Amazon.com for $308

NZXT HALE90-850 for $161.87
The HALE90 models are very good line of PSU and it's 80 Plus Gold certified or get the Corsair HX850 for $163.53 That white colored NZXT PSU may not appeal to some people

Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SSD for $375

Get the other components from Neweg. You can also upgrade the water cooling and go with the Corsair H80 like what Spudsdude just mentioned. The Antec Kuhler H20 620 performs about the same level as the Corsair H50
 
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More adjustments:

$315 - Core i7 2600K
$162 - NZXT HALE90-850-M 850W Modular PSU
$285 - Asus P8Z68-V Pro Intel Z68 ATX Motherboard + Corsair Vengeance CML16GX3M4A1600C9B 4 x 4GB DDR3 1600 RAM
$388 - Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SSD
$60 - Samsung Blu-ray DVD Reader & DVD Burner
$230 - Silverstone FT02B ATX Case
$93 - Corsair Hydro Series H80
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Total: $1533 plus tax and shipping.

Everyone seemed to want me to bump up the PSUs power, so I went ahead and did that. I also switched the cooler to H80 at your recommendations. 2600k appears to be same 315 on amazon as on newegg, so I'll sort that out once shipping/tax comes in to play. The link for the cheaper SSD did not work.

Still wondering if there's another mobo I should look at that can run both full speed or if this is be all of mobos.
 
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Ok, I'll take Forceman's word and your implied word that x8 instead of x16 won't affect my video card performance. Really appreciate the advice. If no further responses by the time I get home this evening I'll order the components in my last posted list.

Thanks.
 
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