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Building an 8 core system

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note235

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What are the components I need for the cheapest 8 core system?
What mobo, ram and cpu?
 
Cheapest? I dunno about that, but read up on Skulltrail. That seems to be the most promising option for an octocore system.

What are you going to be doing with it?
 
Question:

Why the hell do you need a 8 core system? Quad-core is overkill for 95% of users. So Octocore is therefore overkill for 99.99% of people.
 
You can Pick up a pair of 45nm Quad Core Xeons for about $300 each and a Dual 771 Montherboard for $300-$400. Memory will costs will eat you alive though. Budget at least $1200+ for the Board, Processors and Mem.

You CAN Sli on this too.. So Figure another $550 for 2 8800GTs
 
I'm not going to play games.
Read up some at newegg and cheapest mobo is $250
Can any use normal ddr memory?

and reason?
massive rendering.
Maya
3Ds Max
and Terragen 2

also huge amount of HD footage composition
 
You may want to double check all of the compatability here, but here is an example system;




ASUS DSBV-DX Dual 771 Intel 5000V SSI CEB 1.1 Server Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131191
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$19.99 Instant
$239.99
$220.00

Intel Xeon E5410 Harpertown 2.33GHz LGA 771 80W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80574E5410A - Retail
Item #: N82E16819117149
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Extended Service Net Replacement Plan -- $39.992 Year Extended Service Net Replacement Plan -- $69.99 $592.00
($296.00 each)

Crucial 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 FB-DIMM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) ECC Fully Buffered Dual Channel Kit Server Memory Model CT2KIT25672AF667 - Retail
Item #: N82E16820148118
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$35.00 Instant
$231.99
$196.99
Subtotal: $1,008.99
 
note235 said:
I'm not going to play games.
Read up some at newegg and cheapest mobo is $250
Can any use normal ddr memory?

and reason?
massive rendering.
Maya
3Ds Max
and Terragen 2

also huge amount of HD footage composition
Click to expand...

Makes sense, i think you could kill 8Cores with that, ive done some fun things in Max and my quad is still struggling... Although 99% of the time its RAM runnign out.
 
don't need the quadro

so mobos cannot use normal ddr2 memory?

any link to roadmap?
 
note235 said:
any link to roadmap?
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Here is an article on what to expect; (Nehalem is also HyperThreading too)

The Nehalem-EX is the one to look out for, with 8 Cores, Hyperthreading, so 16 Threads. Add two of those and... Well. WOW...


http://www.x86watch.com/

"Intel Nehalem Gathers Speed: Report
Intel's Nehalem chip architecture due later this year is beginning to attract more attention. Especially in Asia where system builders and motherboard manufacturers are getting ready for the platform. The Chinese site HKEPC, citing motherboard makers, sees the high-end Bloomfield-Tylersburg technology arriving in Q4 of 2008, followed by Lynnfield (performance mainstream) in Q1 of 2009, and Havendale (mobile) in Q2. As previously reported, Bloomfield will have four cores and be capable of processing eight simultaneous threads. Lynnfield will also have four cores and process up to eight threads. Havendale will have two cores with graphics integrated on the die. Integrated memory controllers will support 3-channel DDR3 (Bloomfield) and 2-channel DDR3 (Lynnfield and Havendale). The TDP (Thermal Design Power, i.e., thermal envelope) is expected to be 130W for Bloomfield, 95W for Lynnfield, and 75W for Havendale, according to the site. The socket scheme will be LGA 1366 for Bloomfield and LGA 1160 for the latter two. Other Asia-based sites have also discussed the Octo-Core Nehalem-EX (Beckton), packing 8 CPU cores, 16 threads, and a 24MB shared cache. (01/03/08)"

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This is from "the horses mouth", Half way down the page;

http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20070328fact.htm
 
any board that doesnt use server memory?
and ex(beckton) seems to come out in 2H of 2009

an boards that can use desktop processors?
dual sockets?
 
note235 said:
any board that doesnt use server memory?
and ex(beckton) seems to come out in 2H of 2009

an boards that can use desktop processors?
dual sockets?
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No. Dual socket boards are all going to be server boards. They're all going to be S771, requiring server CPUs, and they're all going to require ECC RAM. There's no way around this, with the potential exception of things like Skulltrail, which is not yet available.
 
5000 and 5400 series boards require FB-Dimms, 5100 series boards require Registered/ECC DDR2.

SLI will not work except on Skulltrail, unless you have Quadros.
 
For your needs, Skulltrail might be what you're looking for. However, there are no concrete release dates at the this time. From what I've read so far, SkullTrail is being released sometime in Q1 2008 though it could be pushed back.

So if you really want an Octo-Core system, you're gonna have to spend a lot more money for a server setup.
 
99% of software out there doesn't take advantage of anything over two so why all the expense?
 
Glow said:
99% of software out there doesn't take advantage of anything over two so why all the expense?
Click to expand...

This is why he needs it:
note325 said:
and reason?
massive rendering.
Maya
3Ds Max
and Terragen 2

also huge amount of HD footage composition
Click to expand...

Oh and OP, have you thought about setting up a render farm? Would help out with your "massive rendering" needs.
 
Danny Bui said:
This is why he needs it:


Oh and OP, have you thought about setting up a render farm? Would help out with your "massive rendering" needs.
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Do they take advantage of multi cores if so how many?
 
ill checkout skulltrail and thanks guys

right now
if I build this is should have aroubnd 4-5 pcs at home
1 laptop
2 conroe's
and my brother might build a new quad core
and this octo
 
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