Building a home vSphere lab - licensing?

Discussion in 'Virtualized Computing' started by TeeJayHoward, Jun 10, 2019.

  1. TeeJayHoward

    TeeJayHoward Limpness Supreme

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    Been out of the VMware game for too long. I think the last version I used was 6.0. Work was pushing towards RHEV, so I killed my lab and started learning that. Now I'm pretty well acquainted with it, but I miss my VMware setup @ home.

    So... Let's talk about doing it legally.
    • If I go with a VMUG license, can I still use DRS/DRM/vMotion/HA/FT?
    • Do you need a vSAN license AND an ESXi host license for each physical vSAN server?
    • Can a vSAN host also be a VM host? Is it best practice to separate them?
    • I see that 6CPU licenses are included, but it talks about 3x 2-CPU servers. If I have 6x single-CPU servers, is that allowed?
    • Never got a chance to play with NSX. How's it different from distributed switches? How's it licensed?
     
  2. IdiotInCharge

    IdiotInCharge [H]ardForum Junkie

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    How many systems are you talking about?

    [I've run a total of one, so licensing for home / learning use was free...]
     
  3. TeeJayHoward

    TeeJayHoward Limpness Supreme

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    I've got probably a dozen low-utilization VMs, and 8 identical physical servers to run them on. Not all 8 need to be licensed (or even powered on) as my workload's so small.

    Each server is
    Xeon E3
    32GB RAM
    Dual 1GbE onboard NIC
    Dual 40Gb Infiniband (or dual 10GbE) PCIe NIC (Mellanox Connect-X2)
    256GB SSD
    2TB HDD
    16GB SataDOM
    16GB USB
    My network infrastructure consists of
    A pair of 24-port GbE switches
    An UNMANAGED Infiniband switch (So the vCSA or one of the hosts will need to be running an IB management service)​
     
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    IdiotInCharge [H]ardForum Junkie

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    RIght- well, I wish I could help more. I'll be following along.
     
  5. cjcox

    cjcox [H]ard|Gawd

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    ESXi is "free"... have never known VSphere (VCenter) to be free.
     
  6. Spartacus09

    Spartacus09 Gawd

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    1) yes vmug gets you the equivalent of a 6cpu enterprise plus license, Which includes all of those features you listed
    2) yes you need a licensed Esxi host to apply the vsan license to
    3) I think you’re confused on how vsan works, the intention is for three or more esxi hosts to share their local data store, to use as VMware datastore storage, You then use that storage and those hosts as a cluster, its not a nas thats shared out, The storage is only used by the hosts that are contributing.~ I will say this vSAN is a pain in the ass if you’re not using made for hardware. the hardware compatibility list is a lot smaller and not worth it IMO, if you care about the data on the vsan datastore.
    4) It’s for six CPUs you can have that split however you want whether it’s 1×6, 2x3, 4x1+1x2, the limitation is physical CPUs not hosts.
    5) never used nsx sorry

    As a sidenote the way vmug works is you get a license for 13 months, after which your licenses expire, or you get new ones with your renewal ( I never did multi year vmug so I’m not sure if they last longer for that or if you still have to renew them annually )

    That being said I ended up switching over to linux and dockerizing a lot of my stuff, got tired of paying for VMware.
     
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  7. TeeJayHoward

    TeeJayHoward Limpness Supreme

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    Aah, I see. I had assumed that it worked like a traditional SAN where any host capable of iSCSI could take a chunk out of a shared pool of disks. Oops!

    (Thanks for the rest of your answers, too!)
     
  8. gimp

    gimp [H]ardForum Junkie

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    NSX is a whole different beast altogether.
    I got to attend a presentation a few weeks back.

    It allows massive micro-segmentation even within VLANs.
    In essence, it's a per-port firewall.
    You can group VMs via tags and apply rules to the tags, for example.

    There's quite a bit more than it provides as well, like VXLAN.
    It is licensed separately, but I believe VMUG provides the licensing.

    https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-V...UID-390CC876-9F7F-4A06-820E-D67876F53452.html
    https://blogs.vmware.com/vsphere/2013/04/vxlan-series-different-components-part-1.html

    fwiw, I just paid $459 for 3-year VMUG last month. They give a price break for the longer terms, and then I found an additional 10% off code somewhere.
     
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