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alik4041

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I was thinking of either spending low and buying this system:

AMD opty 165 CCB1E 0609
DFI SLI-DR Expert
OCZ EB DDR PC-4000 2x1024MB Platinum
X-FI Fatal1ty
any 7900gtx (wil sli when needed)
2X 74gb raptors
2X 750gb seagate
2X dvd burners

or waiting for conroe?

and what do you think the prices of conroe will be?
 
Well I read this article in CPU magazine by the maker of [H] and he was talking about how conroes are going to be so cheap in price, while having the kick ass performance. And will my amd s939 system be able to handl vista and will it be dx10 ready?
 
alik4041 said:
Well I read this article in CPU magazine by the maker of [H] and he was talking about how conroes are going to be so cheap in price, while having the kick ass performance. And will my amd s939 system be able to handl vista and will it be dx10 ready?
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It's really up to you. If money is an issue, waiting is a good option. A computer is generally considered to depreciate by $100 a month, so every month you wait is $100 dollars saved.
 
im in the same boat, in about to drop 2 grand on parts tonight and cant decide if I should wait or not. Im starting to think that there will always be better hardware out there. As long as the machine will kick major ass today I would go for it.
 
Do you know if the s939 system would be dx10 compatible tho? Because I know if I buy that system, it will last me at least 2-3 years. Especially if I sli it later on.

I'm currently running:

intel 2.4ghz Overclocked to 3.7
d875pbzlk
kingston ddr400 hyperX
x850 broken, sent for warranty. I have to flash the new one that I'm going to be getting to xt pe.
audigy ls
2x 36gb raptors both broken
120gb maxtor broken
lite-on dvd rom broken
optorite dvd burner broken
still got my floppy :p

My system is kind of falling apart.
 
alik4041 said:
Do you know if the s939 system would be dx10 compatible tho? Because I know if I buy that system, it will last me at least 2-3 years. Especially if I sli it later on.

I'm currently running:

intel 2.4ghz Overclocked to 3.7
d875pbzlk
kingston ddr400 hyperX
x850 broken, sent for warranty. I have to flash the new one that I'm going to be getting to xt pe.
audigy ls
2x 36gb raptors both broken
120gb maxtor broken
lite-on dvd rom broken
optorite dvd burner broken
still got my floppy :p

My system is kind of falling apart.
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probably no way to win in reguards to video card. You could get a cheaper card now and plan on replacing it.

Except for all the broken stuff, you old system seems to have nice enough specs. Have you considered just fixing it up with some newer replacement parts?
 
I'm limited by having only 2 sata connections on my mobo and the low quality of overclocking on it.
 
My parents told me they would give me around $600 to fix it up but I dont think that would be enuf. Honestly, if you guys have any idea of what I can do, plz post. It can't hurt.
 
alik4041 said:
My parents told me they would give me around $600 to fix it up but I dont think that would be enuf. Honestly, if you guys have any idea of what I can do, plz post. It can't hurt.
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For a major overhaul with a midrange budget, you really need to question some things here. Like, why the hell do you really need the following?

I. Two Raptors
II. Two 750GB
III. DFI Expert



Recommendations to above:

I. For basic home use, Raptors are overrated and overpriced unless you plan on a datacenter-esque drive RAID where the little difference in speed adds up.

II. Get yourself a couple/few 160 or 200GB HDD. Add on when you actually need to in the future (future = larger drives = cheaper prices).

III. What do you plan on doing with that DFI Expert that you can't do with the SLI Infinity, SLI-D, or SLI-DR? Curiosity....
 
alik4041 said:
Do you know if the s939 system would be dx10 compatible tho?
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The CPU (Opteron 165) paired with 2Gb of RAM will handle Vista nicely, so the S939 system istelf will be just fine, it's the PCI-e graphics card(s) you'll need to replace in order to run true DX10.
 
To be honest, if i were you, with just 600 bucks to spend, I'd go with a game consol. I'd probably pick up the new Nentendo when it comes out and some games, and just buy enough PC parts to give the computer basic functionality. If some money is left, maybe a discounted/used ps2 or Xbox-original.
 
Check out this memory, as well. I'm running it and it's some of the best memory I've had grace my system. Damn sight cheaper than the OCZ, too.

Don't worry - the difference in timings aren't going to matter. It's the PC3200 vs PC4000 that makes the difference here.

I went from 4x512MB PC3200 at 2.5-3-3-8 to my current 2x1GB PC4000 at 3-4-4-8 and have 18% more bandwidth (SiSoft Sandra).
 
Langford said:
To be honest, if i were you, with just 600 bucks to spend, I'd go with a game consol. I'd probably pick up the new Nentendo when it comes out and some games, and just buy enough PC parts to give the computer basic functionality. If some money is left, maybe a discounted/used ps2 or Xbox-original.
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That really depends on what else he uses his computer for.

If he already has a lot of money invested in games and apps plus uses it for internet, homework, etc, then a console would be useless as a replacement.
 
DejaWiz said:
That really depends on what else he uses his computer for.

If he already has a lot of money invested in games and apps plus uses it for internet, homework, etc, then a console would be useless as a replacement.
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From the description, it sounds like it just needs some drives and a vid card to function. If he doesn't get greedy with the resolution, it will probably run his current games just fine on a cheaper card.
 
Langford said:
To be honest, if i were you, with just 600 bucks to spend, I'd go with a game consol. I'd probably pick up the new Nentendo when it comes out and some games, and just buy enough PC parts to give the computer basic functionality. If some money is left, maybe a discounted/used ps2 or Xbox-original.
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Well 1st, no console could ever replace my pc. A pc is a pc and a console is a console. BTW the new PS3 looks freakin sweet! uhh, back to my point, umm yea. I will never replace my pc with a console.
Langford said:
From the description, it sounds like it just needs some drives and a vid card to function. If he doesn't get greedy with the resolution, it will probably run his current games just fine on a cheaper card.
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I have warranty on my card. Should be getting my x850pro back in a max of 8 days or less. Then when I get it back, I can flash it to an xt pe like i had with my previous x850pro.
DejaWiz said:
The CPU (Opteron 165) paired with 2Gb of RAM will handle Vista nicely, so the S939 system istelf will be just fine, it's the PCI-e graphics card(s) you'll need to replace in order to run true DX10.
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So I shouldn't buy a 7900gtx?
DejaWiz said:
For a major overhaul with a midrange budget, you really need to question some things here. Like, why the hell do you really need the following?

I. Two Raptors
II. Two 750GB
III. DFI Expert



Recommendations to above:

I. For basic home use, Raptors are overrated and overpriced unless you plan on a datacenter-esque drive RAID where the little difference in speed adds up.

II. Get yourself a couple/few 160 or 200GB HDD. Add on when you actually need to in the future (future = larger drives = cheaper prices).

III. What do you plan on doing with that DFI Expert that you can't do with the SLI Infinity, SLI-D, or SLI-DR? Curiosity....
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I. I want the king of the beasts of beasts. I don't settle for high capicity, normal speed. I would rather settle for low capacity high speed, with a high capacity normal speed drive as my storage drive. Infact, I have been thinking about scsi, 15k hdd. I know load time isn't as important for you guys at it is for me in games. But I do a lot of multitasking, moving around large files, etc. I would say I move at least 5gb of files a day from hdd to hdd, back and forth, etc. But I learned that even if you have the fastest cpu, the fastest gpu, ram, etc, but you have a normal hdd. Then your load times will still be low. Believe me, 10k doesn't seem like a big difference from 7200rpm but it really is. I haven't gone to 15k scsi yet because of the price, but I will be there. Only time will tell.

II. Again, IMHO large slow drives are for storage. I'm a speed demon, what can i say.

III. DFI expert for the fsb. Upto 400 fsb :p
 
i wud wait until conroe is released before making a huge investment in a new pc. i am running into the same issue with my pc, and i've decided to wait for dx10 and conroe cuz it stil plays every game i want it to well enuf and duz the occasional mundane skool asinment. neway, i wud wate for conroe and maybe dx10 to really get ur moneys worth. but thats just my 2 cents.
 
go for it now but ... 2 74 gb raptors are more expensive and are not as fast as one 150 gb raptor. 2 74 gb raptors=148 gb and a 150 gb raptor outperforms and is cheaper then two because...2 74 gb raptors=320$ and one 150 gb raptor=275 .. so there yeah go and i would just go with two 500 gb hd's to save some cash
 
I honestly don't think that a 150gb raptor can beat 2x74gb raptors in raid 0. I'm not even going to get in on that subject. I just need to choose components to get my pc back in working order. I have decided not to go for a new build, but I realy need a hdd and a dvd drive to power my old pc.
 
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