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Bottleneck?

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A friend just recently bought a E8500 and is going to keep it stock, and a GTX 260 (The new 216 thread version). He is going to play the latest games at 1680x1050.

Will he need to OC or will the 3.16GHz suffice at that resolution?

I think he should be fine, but the problem is that he bought a ASUS P5Q SE PLUS. It can OC no doubt, but the NB heatsink is a little skimpy and there is no PWM cooling. Plus he didn't buy a new after market HSF, so he's stuck with the stock hs.

It should all be fine if he doesn't need to OC, and if he can raise the fsb at all w/out voltage adjustments it should also be fine.
 
with that video card and playable settings at 1680 the e8500 would not need to be overclocked. even with a gtx280 overclocking the e8500 at that res would only get you a frame or two in a game like Far Cry 2. other than that the e8500 is more than sufficient for a gtx260.
 
I thought all the core 216s and gtx280s were bottleneck some what unless you were at 3.4 or more? Is this not true?

I have a Q6600 and I just purchased a EVGA GTX 280 SSC. I was curious how far I really needed to OC in order to eliminate the bottleneck?
 
Ultimately no matter what hardware you have, something is always the bottleneck if you want to take the term literally.
For our purposes, a bottleneck is only considered to occur if performance is subpar.
At 1680 res with an E8400 or higher and a GTX260 or higher, there is no performance problem.
 
i fired up far cry 2 on an e6600 paired with a gx2 at 19/12 a few weeks ago before i pulled the rig apart. at stock speeds the e6600 kept the gx2 from rendering consistently above 30 frames with settings maxed minus aa at native res. once at 3ghz the game ram much faster, in general the card rendered better than 30 frames most of the time, but it was plagued a bit by some jerkiness. at 16x10 the game ran smooth as silk. long story short, the op's client should be very pleased with an e8400 and gtx260 at 16x10. as poor as the stock cooler performs, it should still allow some overclocking; perhaps to 3.2 ghz while generating about 60'c max loaded. i've overclocked e4300's to 3ghz with the stock cooler and about 1.35vcore successfully many times.
 
rennyf77 said:
i fired up far cry 2 on an e6600 paired with a gx2 at 19/12 a few weeks ago before i pulled the rig apart. at stock speeds the e6600 kept the gx2 from rendering consistently above 30 frames with settings maxed minus aa at native res. once at 3ghz the game ram much faster, in general the card rendered better than 30 frames most of the time, but it was plagued a bit by some jerkiness. at 16x10 the game ran smooth as silk. long story short, the op's client should be very pleased with an e8400 and gtx260 at 16x10. as poor as the stock cooler performs, it should still allow some overclocking; perhaps to 3.2 ghz while generating about 60'c max loaded. i've overclocked e4300's to 3ghz with the stock cooler and about 1.35vcore successfully many times.
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Far Cry 2 has some little stutters and jerkiness in DX10.
 
cannondale06 said:
Far Cry 2 has some little stutters and jerkiness in DX10.
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you can probably overcome that issue with enough graphic horsepower. 280 sli and x2 cf play perfectly at 25x16 with plenty of aa to boot. the 4850 in my htpc still has that jerkiness, though at 19x10. these days, i never even think to launch games in dx9. as much as i hate to admit it, ive fully converted to vista 64. bye, bye xp....the memories.
 
rennyf77 said:
you can probably overcome that issue with enough graphic horsepower. 280 sli and x2 cf play perfectly at 25x16 with plenty of aa to boot. the 4850 in my htpc still has that jerkiness, though at 19x10. these days, i never even think to launch games in dx9. as much as i hate to admit it, ive fully converted to vista 64. bye, bye xp....the memories.
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it has nothing to do with not getting enough framerates and in fact capping the framerates seems to help some people. also for Far Cry 2 DX9 Ultra gets worse framerates but is actually smoother than DX10 ultra.
 
It really depends on what game he's playing. i've seen games like X3 Terran Conflict, rely almost only on the CPU when a respectible GPU is present. A 4850 and a 280GTX perform the game at the same FPS with the same CPU. Other games are coded to rely on the GPU Mostly. (which is most games). He should be able to hit 3.4 to 3.6 Ghz on stock Voltage. he can also go over to crazypc.com and pick up a pair of mosfet heatsinks for under $20 shipped.
 
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