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Bluetooth vs. 802.11b

sigma

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Hello,

Just wanted to ask how to connect my bluetooth cellphone (T610) to my laptop. My laptop has an internal 802.11b card. I wanted to know if it would be able to read my cellphone as a dial up modem. If not, must I buy a bluetooth adapter.
 
Originally posted by PYROTAK
you need a bluetooth adapter.

Not necessarily. My wifi card has bluetooth in it. You might have to go into the hardware settings and enable it.
 
Originally posted by d03boy
Not necessarily. My wifi card has bluetooth in it. You might have to go into the hardware settings and enable it.

Which wifi card is that?
 
The shitty Dell one... I think its a 1400 Broadcom or something. Doesn't seem to work worth a damn
 
Nice cell choice! i like my t610 :) and i like my tmo service.
In any case, if your laptop dident come with bluetooth, you need an adaptor.
 
so even though both 802.11b and bluetooth use 2.4Ghz, one card may not neccesarily support the other technology?
 
Originally posted by sigma
so even though both 802.11b and bluetooth use 2.4Ghz, one card may not neccesarily support the other technology?

correct, they are two completly different technologys.

I think d03boy is mistaken when he says he has one device that does both.
 
Thats why I asked which card he has. I'm not aware of a card that does both.
 
you need a bluetooth card because the integrated wifi won't do bluetooth too.

Also, you need to have support for data if you wanna dial up with your cell phone. Usually it's like 10 bucks a month extra for a data plan.
 
Originally posted by d03boy
The shitty Dell one... I think its a 1400 Broadcom or something. Doesn't seem to work worth a damn

I think you're mistakenly thinking that the internal bluetooth card is part of the 1400 card...

As to the question - I bet you have infrared on that laptop - the T616 has infrared - it's slow but it works.
 
Originally posted by Leright
you need a bluetooth card because the integrated wifi won't do bluetooth too.

Also, you need to have support for data if you wanna dial up with your cell phone. Usually it's like 10 bucks a month extra for a data plan.

It may get a little confusing at times, on my Tablet PC (Tc1100 from HP) Bluetooth gets turned on when i turn on wireless, and turns off when i turn off my wireless, this is because while i have 2 seperate devices (Intel(R) PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter and Bluetooth by HP) They both go though the same atenneas which are connected to the mini-pci card.

As for data plans: (This is all with T-Mobile, i do not know how it works with others)
I can dial into any ISP, then it just acts like a phone line and uses my min.
With TMO however, you get free limited GPRS, port 80, POP3 SMTP and IMAP ports. its also a bit slow, around 10 KB, but its FREE. Also it works whenever im in a tmo service area. So basicly, if i have my cellphone, my TabletPC, and my USB GPS adaptor (Earthmate from Delorme) i can find any place in the US, get the address and get a moving map display to there, and never get lost!

Tech ROCKS!
 
I really don't know much a bout the topic, but when i go into my WiFi device settings, there is an option to enable or disable bluetooth. I have an Dell INSPIRON 8600 with the 1400 wifi card. It's not PCMCIA, so I'm not sure where else the bluetooth device would be located unless its attached to the card. I'm confusing myself. I'll look up some more info.
 
My Card: Dell TrueMobile 1400 Dual Band WLAN Mini-PCI Card

In the Properties > Advanced settings, it has a "Bluetooth Collaboration" option, which was enabled, but I just disabled it to see if it is the culprit of my shitty wifi connections.

More info coming up
 
Welp, all I came up with is that Bluetooth operates on the 2.4Ghz frequency and its a protocol.. I imagine a wifi card could use the protocol just as a bluetooth adapter if it were programmed to. If someone knows any different, let me know.
 
Originally posted by d03boy
My Card: Dell TrueMobile 1400 Dual Band WLAN Mini-PCI Card

In the Properties > Advanced settings, it has a "Bluetooth Collaboration" option, which was enabled, but I just disabled it to see if it is the culprit of my shitty wifi connections.

More info coming up

I have a 1400 as well - and it sure doesn't have bluetooth. I'm guessing that bluetooth collaboration option is something to prevent interference if you have a bluetooth card. Man I wish it had bluetooth.
 
My stupid 1400 sucks, I can be 20 feet away, looking at the AP and it won't work. It does this for multiple AP's, so its not just the AP. Do you have any probs like that?
 
Originally posted by d03boy
My stupid 1400 sucks, I can be 20 feet away, looking at the AP and it won't work. It does this for multiple AP's, so its not just the AP. Do you have any probs like that?

Nope - works quite well most of the time. I still think I'll probably end up selling it and getting an Orinco Gold.
 
Go to DLINK's website they have a little Bluetooth adapter that plugs straight into your USB port. I've even seen them on the shelves at Best Buy. :D

FYI.
Bluetooth = 400k throughput w/o overhead
802.11b = 11m throughput w/o overhead
 
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