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BF2: Your weakness?

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IceWindus

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I finally realized something last night. After all the years i've been playing the Battlefield series in all ways, I realized while playing BF2 late at night trying to forget this damn cold im having *skipping work today, woo hoo!* I realized that truthfully and honestly, I cannot be a foot soliders of any kind, worth a shit.

Example: I can be sitting in a corner down the street with a fully loaded Special ops gun and see a guy coming straight me, and I can unload an entire clip into his head and kill him. And before I can victory dance, I get up and move and I find another guy right around the corner with a silenced pistol and I can unload half a clip and HIT HIM but he takes 3 shots and kills me dead.


Now....this doesn't seem so bad. HOWEVER, this happens to me EVERY FUCKING 5 minutues. I can be a support troop and lay down a barrage of gun fire in a flag area and Im aiming straight at them and getting hits but then I hear 2 gun fires and Im instantly dead.

I can be hiding behind a tree attempting to snipe people long distance but little do I realize that I find myself at the wrong end of a dune buggy about to run my ass over. Again, this happens ALL the time.

A classic. I running towards a base to take a flag and I can be CROUCHED DOWN, IN A CORNER, with my scope and gun locked and loaded ready for anything. And I see an enemy come around a corner and I lay a full auto on him but even with 3 shots directly into him, he managed to pop me within 1 second flat before I can counter attack!!!!!!


Last night was the coupe de grace of my weakness as a foot soldier. I was spawaning at Kula damn at OUR base on the other side of the map. I take the jet and I fly over and take a direct hit from a missle, I paracute down and I see a enemy camped on a flag. I take out my pistol and attempt to land right behind him. Just as a hit the ground, he turns around and loads a full clip into me before I can even fire a shot.......!!!!

It was then looking at my pitful score that I realized that I, IceWind simply need to be either flying or driving a vehicle of somekind to be usefull to my team because I finally realized, I suck ass at being a soldier
 
I like being on foot. Vehicals aren't my thing. Your rant was my main reason why I left BF2 since 1.03. Don't get me wrong, I would normally be in the top 3 on the board and sometimes I will go on a 7-9 man killing spree.. But 90% of the time, I would get the crap in the rant.

CS:S .... again.
 
Im the same way. CS, I was really good at. Q3, I was really good at. For some reason, I dont know if its a "realistic targeting model" or lag or what, but in ANY of the BF games, from BF42 to BFV to BF2, I just suck period, unless im in a vehicle. Ive always wondered why.
 
My weakness is I tend to die by bullshit alot. The accuracy of the guns in BF2 is like BB guns. Hmm a G3 has an accurate range of 800 yards... in BF2 this is reduced to about 50ft. My airsoft sniper rifle is more accurate. If I get the drop on someone and shoot first, even if they aren't looking at me at first I will die when they spin around in my direction unloading a clip in my general direction. Taking an aimed shot is worthless as the game totally favors spray and pray because of this.
 
Sometimes I have bad/good luck streaks. Either I die every 5 seconds and never know who is shooting at me, or I am on fire and I can take out entire squads by myself. Pretty much the only role I can't play is attack chopper pilot, I would say I am good with everything else.
 
Maybe BF2 is too accurate in that in real combat people die from stupid bullshit all the time too. :D

But I hate when you are crossing a street or alley way and you get nailed three times before you can even turn around. I don't even see most of the people that kill me. That and artillery, OH GOD do I hate artillery. But I also expereince hot and cold streaks. Last night I was murdering my enemies left and right.

I never play vehicles though. I'm just a foot soldier. Usually Anti Tank or Medic.
 
Replicant1911 said:
Maybe BF2 is too accurate in that in real combat people die from stupid bullshit all the time too. :D

But I hate when you are crossing a street or alley way and you get nailed three times before you can even turn around. I don't even see most of the people that kill me. That and artillery, OH GOD do I hate artillery. But I also expereince hot and cold streaks. Last night I was murdering my enemies left and right.
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I dont mind dying per se, but when i take my weapon, ANY weapon, and get the drop on someone, and either take aim and shoot, or pray and spray, and they dont die, but just turn around and in one shot im dead, it makes me cranky

especially annoying is when I fire the anti-tank rocket at oncoming buggies, the buggy is moving so fast it creates its own space time warp bubble and my rocket goes right through the window and the driver like those ghost dudes in the matrix, and then im promptly run over
 
Steel Chicken said:
I dont mind dying per se, but when i take my weapon, ANY weapon, and get the drop on someone, and either take aim and shoot, or pray and spray, and they dont die, but just turn around and in one shot im dead, it makes me cranky
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Know exactly how you feel, I can't stand when that happens. I usually end up pressing alt-F4 and doing something else for awhile. :D
 
Steel Chicken said:
especially annoying is when I fire the anti-tank rocket at oncoming buggies, the buggy is moving so fast it creates its own space time warp bubble and my rocket goes right through the window and the driver like those ghost dudes in the matrix, and then im promptly run over
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I hate that too but it does look really cool when you are the driver.
 
Replicant1911 said:
I hate that too but it does look really cool when you are the driver.
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yes, and the truth is, i think its funny too, even though it makes me mad
is it normal to laugh hilariously when your pissed of? BF2 has that magic that infuriates you at the same time you are cracking up
 
there is a lot of BS that happens in BF2...theres been so many times i shoot a missle at a APC or something and it seems to just pass right through and do no damage...and i hate getting shot when i'm on a ladder

other than that im good on foot w/a assault rifle
 
I hate it when I run into a bad guy, we both drop to the ground and start fireing, I hit him with 3-3round bursts of the M-16 and he gets 1 bullet off and it kills me. :mad:
 
M16. I simply can not kill anything with that gun. The AK47/AK101 I do really well with. I do pretty good with the M4 but suck with the G36C.

Oh I love catching AT rockets. If I am in a tank that will die with one more AT round and jump out when I see one shot at me. I always exit right in front of it and catch the rocket, save the tank, and the guy who got me ends up running away with my tank and caps half the map with it. Happens way too often.

Or, if I am a passenger in a chopper the pilot either bails or gets kills. I did a cool save one time though. Wake 2007, Loaded blackhawk, fighter jet attacked us, only the pilot died. So the blackhawk was heading right towards some land, no one else noticed. I jumped into the pilots seat pulled out just in time (got a few WTF from the passengers), and landed let the passengers out at the South Base, then I flew to the Beach and both flags got capped right after the other.
 
bf2 has a flawed accuracy system without a doubt. ranged combat is no very effective without vehicles. the idea is get in close and aim for the head. unfortuneatly Dice's gimped combat system has led to tactics like bunny hopping and dolphin diving, c4 chucking and noob tubing as the most effective and frustrating ways of being effective. if the guns just behaved realistically this would not be the case perhaps it's a realistic simulation of people in combat freaking out and missing shots by ten feet when you aim the reticle dead on. i dunno that's why I'm a tank ho sometimes.
 
After reading all these posts I realized something:

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I LOVE THIS GAME.

All the crazy, stoopid and ridiculous stuff that happens to me. Many times I'm on the receiving end of an improbable kill. Many times I'm on the giving end of an improbable kill. It's all good, baby. Not only this, but after months of being a ground-pounder, I broke down and bought a Cyborg EVO just to fly choppers and planes. It's like a new freakin' game again! Not only that, but now I've gotten into being a commander a little bit and it's once again a new experience. The awesomeness of BF2 can be summed up into one phrase: variety of gameplay. I could CARE LESS about all the strange, stoopid things that happen in BF2 because we're ALL under the same circumstances. Don't forget that. NO ONE is above/below anyone else as far as game itself goes. Only better skill, quicker reflexes, better knowledge and superior strategy will get you above the crop. I love it when $50 pays off for great entertainment.
 
Two things weaknesses/bugs :p:

Name bug color.

C4 bug. Right clicking only once switches C4 -> Detonator -> C4. Sometimes making me drop a c4 at my feet.

But i'm still addicted to this game.
 
Things I hate :

  • Shooting people over and over in the back, you hit them somehow 2 or 3 times out of the 10 bullets that should of hit them, then the guy realizing he is getting shot, turns around, lays prown and shoots you in 2 shots from a huge distance and you die. Other times, I will come around a corner and will see an enemy facing the other direction. I load his back up with any random machine gun and can hear the sound of bullets hitting him, yet he turns around and does the noob jump/spin/prone bug and kills me 1 shot.


  • I am in a jeep/humvee.. I see a troop so I jump into the gunner position, WAM, hit with artillery directly... I die, but the jeep is perfectly fine and the guy I was planning to shoot at gets into the jeep and drives away.

  • The C4 bug... I go to throw C4 onto a APC, get 3 on there, run away and right click then click, only to have the APC kill me because it didn't pull out the switch like it was supposed to. God, that pisses me off.

  • I've seen rocket trails go right through the middle of an APC sitting still, doing of course no damage. :rolleyes:

  • And most importantly, the supreme weakness of fall damage and vehicle damage definitly needs to be fixed. A tank/APC/jeep dropping down a 3 foot hill should not cause it to lose 20% of it's health. Same goes with a troop going down the same hill, some spawns you come out and slide down a hill only to lose a vital amount of health. Come the f*ck on.

On another note to BF2, the new expansion has come pretty cool shit. A gun that shoots a zip cord... c'mon how awesome is that?!
 
Wow, I'm a complete opposite to the OP. Cannot do a single thing right in a vehicle, unless it's one of those ultra-fast buggy things (yeah, don't ask me names, I'm just a casual player :D). I do some pretty mad stuff as medic or special ops, though.
 
I am boycotting the expansion as well,with BF2 I seem to have horrible luck.My deaths are higher than my kills :rolleyes: Bf2 is the only game where I've managed to throw out the cd a couple times and uninstalled it completely. I usually do well at most games like America's Army and CS.
 
I could crap in a bathtub more accurately than using some of the weapons in BF2. :rolleyes:
 
Steel Chicken said:
especially annoying is when I fire the anti-tank rocket at oncoming buggies, the buggy is moving so fast it creates its own space time warp bubble and my rocket goes right through the window and the driver like those ghost dudes in the matrix, and then im promptly run over
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well first just dont stand there and let them run you over, jump out of the way of buggys.. if its a hummer or Vodnik just go prone and laugh as they drive over you and turn around and pop them in the ass with a rocket
 
Wildace said:
well first just dont stand there and let them run you over, jump out of the way of buggys.. if its a hummer or Vodnik just go prone and laugh as they drive over you and turn around and pop them in the ass with a rocket
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Easier said then done.
 
I really dont have a weakness at BF2, unless you count wanting to Jihad Jeep time to time as a weakness. lol
 
Steel Chicken said:
especially annoying is when I fire the anti-tank rocket at oncoming buggies, the buggy is moving so fast it creates its own space time warp bubble and my rocket goes right through the window and the driver like those ghost dudes in the matrix, and then im promptly run over
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Yeah but think about the times it does work. There is something special about takin out a loaded buggy with its guns blazing, then poof, the charred frame is sliding towards you. ;) I also enjoy taking out drivers and seeing the hummer coast that last 10 feet. When it workes it is worth the 4 failed previous attempts..

I am a weak ground troop. I still have not settled on a weapon, I try to play support but you just cant pick people off at a distance anymore, like you could in DC. In DC it would take 30 rounds to drop a guy at long distances. My biggest complaint is the aiming grid. If I cant center my cross hairs on a guy at distance, then it doesnt matter what the accuracy is. I dont mind that the support MG is only usefull while prone, that is how it should be. My K/D ratio is <1 on the ground and 4:1 in armor( plus like 200 road Ks, how ya like that spec-ops man ;) )
 
Wildace said:
well first just dont stand there and let them run you over, jump out of the way of buggys.. if its a hummer or Vodnik just go prone and laugh as they drive over you and turn around and pop them in the ass with a rocket
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its one of those "youve got .5 seconds to do something" situations.

do you make a vain attempt to run away, moving perhaps 2 feet, and instead of impacting with the front of the buggy, you impact on one of the sides of the front? and die in either case?, OR do you take a shot with your already loaded rocket launcher, which is already pointed at the oncoming buggy and hope its space time bubble is not fully formed?
 
Steel Chicken said:
OR do you take a shot with your already loaded rocket launcher, which is already pointed at the oncoming buggy and hope its space time bubble is not fully formed?
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lol'd!

I don't get how an engineer can "cap" me from, like, a bazillion yards away, while I take precise shots with my spec-ops rifle. I NEVER WIN!
 
unless your sound is messed up you shouldnt even get close to being snuck up on by buggy or any vehicle, they are loud as hell and you can hear them coming half way across karkand

sound is such a key part on karkand. like if im at the north west flag as soon as i hear a vehicle in the distance thats getting louder i jump on the TOW launcher and once the engine noise reaches the right point i fire and then they come flying around the corner right into the rocket... and bye bye vodnik.


just make sure if your using headphones that arnt surround sound you are set up for 2 channel in your sound settings so you can actually hear stuff behind you.
 
My weakness:
I suck at flying helicopters or planes. So I just don't fly em. I thought about buying a joystick but I don't have any other game that could benifit from it. Therefore, I probably won't buy one and continue to suck at piloting flying vehicules.

My other weakness is that I cannot stop myself from getting the tank in Mashtuur. Since almost no one actually uses it to defend our side of the map, which is really important, I feel that I have to take it. There is nothing I hate more then someone taking the tank and driving right into the enemy flag to get as much kills as possible at the cost of loosing a flag or two. Then once the tank gets blown up, the other team gets it because we lost our flag to the BH...
 
My weakness - OVER KILL :D

Seriously, I just can't help it. Unless there's an intense battle going on I'll just HAVE to whip out the pistol and shoot a bunch of rounds into the head of the guy I just killed. I just love it because you KNOW they are looking up at you waiting for a medic and you're just standing there popping off bullets melodically....


...and then I get shot in the back and have to suffer the same.
 
spine said:
My weakness - OVER KILL :D

Seriously, I just can't help it. Unless there's an intense battle going on I'll just HAVE to whip out the pistol and shoot a bunch of rounds into the head of the guy I just killed. I just love it because you KNOW they are looking up at you waiting for a medic and you're just standing there popping off bullets melodically....


...and then I get shot in the back and have to suffer the same.
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Lmao. Honestly, I have never even thought of that. Hahah....the next lan should be fun...:D
 
theres a differnt method i use at aiming in BF2, and i think its perfectly fine if you get killed if someone lines up a shot behind you, in a battlefield the other teams not going to care if your not ready for them... learn how to control the recoils and you wont get prone/spray owned
 
Other than the obvious AA weakness :rolleyes:

My weakness is man-to-man gunfight. I get owned 60 .- 70% of the time. It feels like less, but that is the problem with real-time stats...there is no denying it.

I think my problem is that I just can't get used to aiming at the head. After years of semi-competitive shooting, military service, and paitball, it is darn hard to focus on headshots.

I am extremely offended that my two previous threads discussing problems with BF2 were locked. The problems are REAL and need to be discussed by grown-ups. More than 70% of respondants to a poll on the official EA Games forum think that BF2 is STILL not ready for release.

That said, I still love this game - but I play less and less and become frustrated more quickly because of the problems.
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The only thing Im good at it seems is pure infantry combat because I play America's Army alot. My weaknesses are tanks,apc,jets,helos,etc.
 
I really like this thread. I believe all or most of the problems were discussed and I'd like EA to read and take them into consideration when releasing future patches. Only issue is that I get this link to them, I really think they should take a look at it.
 
Do you really see these as problems? I think this is a list of people who lack skills in some areas, myself included. The game has a steep/wide learning curve, why should there be changes made because folks get owned by a buggy bumper or cant fly a helo? Games like this are great because the wide array of skills and tactics that are at work. I believe that was the point of this thread.
 
I don't have BF2 but BF:Vietnam and must say that the V1.2 patch killed my aim. I suck as infantry but with my logitech wingman attack I own with the heli.
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Im definitely worthless as a pilot. Only time ill take a flying vehicle is to deny the enemy grabbing them.

Gripes:

I hate the grenade launchers (n00b t00bs). I really hate the fact that when you die to one it makes like no noise, no explosion so a lot of times you dont know what the heck just happened. It should also be fatal to the user at close ranges, which it really isnt.

Armor - when im in a tank or apc, no one on your team ever covers you. as soon as I roll into an area with a tank, all the infantry on my team heads elsewhere, probably fearing the armor will get all the kills. as a result you get eaten up by AT rockets, grenades, and of course c4. Then the rest of your team cries when your tank/apc isnt around to fight the enemy armor.

Sniping - the rifles are hillariously inaccurate. I understand wanting to keep them balanced and not ruining the game for other ground pounders, but I feel that considering the power of Artillery, Sattelite Scans, UAV, the accuracy of common weapons (g36/l85 especially) and their helplessness against armor, the snipers are more than balanced. with how short a distance you can view even scoped the weapons (esp bolt actions) should be able to hit a stationary target 90% of the time not 50%

Vehicle loudness - they arent loud enough. I can usually hear them but if people are spotting I sometimes get surprised by a helicopter (!) or even a tank. I frequently catch people unawares driving around in the tank. It should be much much more obvious one is nearby.
 
Yes the Grenade launcher should be more fatal to the user at close range. Really they should slightly lower the damage, and tripple the blast radius (with rapidly decreasing damage over the radius). It may make it used more to attack people who have taken cover, but it wont be as effective at close rage due to higher suicide rate. It should also be a bit less accurate as well.

Sniper rifles, I still think the damage should be bumped up on them. Leave the accuracy where it is, but bump up the damge another 25%.

Outside of that I don't have many more changes I can think of.

Oh the trick for surviving in Armor: lots and lots of smoke. Keep moving and never actually get close to a flag unless there are tons of friendlies. I stay a good distance away and shell it and rake it with mg fire. Less C4 deaths.
 
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