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Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro Protable Thoughts

gerbiaNem

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I went to guitar center this morning to check out some headphones since I had just ordered a pair of A900s. The sales rep said that the Beyers were "The best headphones I've ever heard.", I couldn't pass up on a statement like that. So I tried out the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro on both my Ipod and an amp. Note that I am not an audiophile, but listen to a lot of music and know when something sounds off.

I first tried them on the instore amp to guage their potential. Note that they probably were not broken in prior since the sales rep took them out of a box.

They were very comfortable to my head and fit well with a proper adjustment. The isolated sound fairly well. With music playing, a sales rep asked me to move about 1ft from me and I couldn't hear anything at all. With no music, voices close by seemed very distant. The audio cd used with the amp was some weird ambient music with a bit of bass. The headphones sounded amazing. I closed my eyes and imagined I was in a large auditorium with no problems. The bass was pronounced but never got loud to a point of distracting from the other sounds. Overall, a great experience.

Now on my 3G 20GB Ipod, an entirely different story. I tried Hawthorn Heghts and Mae to test punk music, Tool and Metallica for rock, Tranzworld and NYC Underground 3 for trance and dance (I hear trance and dance are a strongpoint for these). All of the music was at 192kbps bitrate.

The first thing I noticed about the Beyers on the Ipod was that they didn't go loud enough. I easily put the volume up to max on the Ipod and the sound felt just comfortable. My old Sony cheapo MDR-Q22s(not bad sound quality, but missing bass) could go ridiculously too high if I wanted on the other hand.

For the punk music, the Beyers seemed somewhat muffled. I could however tell the smallest details in the treble. The bass also interfered with the vocals on some faster songs. The punk just didn't have sound like what punk music should sound like. It was too bass heavy and distant.

For the rock music, the same distant sound applied. Listening to Lateralus, the bass wasn't as much of a problem as with the punk music, but once again still a problem. The detail was again great. Listening to Master of Puppets was lacking. It felt as though the band was behind a doorway. The bass was pleasantly deep, but the overall sound quality, midrange and High were lackluster.

The trance and dance were the most enjoyable to listen to. Tranzworld has a lot of ambience and bass, the Beyers boomed in my head like I had placed a subwoofer a few feet away from each ear. The little techno high frequency noises were amazing to hear. The detail was again very present in the NYCUP3. On the Mel C song, I could actually hear a tiny bit of static in the background (probably due to a bad recording on my part), that I couldn't dream of hearing with my cheap sonies. To test the bass, I set the Ipod equalizer to bass booster. Under this setting, there was no distortion like there was with the cheapo sonies, and the bass blasted away like I had turned up the bass knob on a set of speakers. The only problem was not a problem with the sound quality, it was with the sound volume. The darn things just couldn't go high enough. They just stayed soft and low. If I had an intention of using them in an airplane, I'm not sure the sound isolation would do well enough to drown out the jets.

In conclusion, it appears that the DT770 Pros are NOT for portable players. I have no idea if my review represents a well broken in set or an amped set, but my unamped Ipod exprience left me with a negative impression. On the amp, they could go considerably higher, but only listening to that one ambient CD didn't let me test other genres. Note: Not an audiophile, just casual music listener.
 
I am sorry to hear that you were disappointed with them. I just bought the Beyerdynamic DT-440s because someone who is an audiophile recommened them to me (not an audiophile) for watching DVDs and playing games. For music, I will get the klipsch 2.1 promedias, which will also be used for 2.0 DVDs and some games.
 
You need external amplification for those headphones if you are to use them with portable audio players. What you need is a CMoy Amp. You can build them yourself if you know a bit of electronics or you can buy them. There's some people on these forums that sell them or you can get them off Ebay.
 
These cans aren't balanced, but the are a ton of fun. Definately need amplification. If I take them on the road, I power them with an SR-71.
 
How are the DT440s for gaming? No one seems to be ableto give me a definite answer on what to look at...
 
About the DT770's. My first though is, what model did you get? The older models are 250ohm, and I think there is an even older model that is like 600ohm. The newest and IMO the best sounding model is the 80ohm, and it is also the one that is easiest to power. With the right amp, these things are insane. Right now i'm powering them with a beast of an old 70's reciever and the only problem I have is that it tickles my ears :)

I went to these from a Sony MDR-7506. If you're looking for something that is easier to power but retains much of the bass of the DT770's, i'd suggest looking into the sony's. You can get the MDR-7506 for about $100 or the MDR-V6 for about $50. The MDR-V6 is the same except that the plug isn't gold plated, heh. Overall the Beyer's are a little "softer" than the Sony's, but they are both good cans.
 
serbiaNem said:
...Overall, a great experience.

Now on my 3G 20GB Ipod, an entirely different story...

You are correct, with some juice behind them the 770s are brilliant 'phones, easily one of the best (if the darkness doesn't bother you), but portables just don't develop enough power to drive them without help.
 
serbiaNem, would you mind giving us another mini review of the a900s when you get them I'm sure a lot of us would to hear what you think.
 
deathBOB said:
How are the DT440s for gaming? No one seems to be ableto give me a definite answer on what to look at...

I'll let you know as soon as I get my computer and I try them out with some games.
 
These were the 80ohm pro version. So having an amp even with a low impedence seems like a must.

And you can be sure that I'll post my thoughts on the A900s. I'll be going to Ireland for 5 days on Saturday. I'll have a lot of listening time on an airplane and airport, and give my thoughts on how well they isolate jet engines. I'll see how they progress thorugh the break-in period too.
 
serbiaNem said:
These were the 80ohm pro version. So having an amp even with a low impedence seems like a must.

And you can be sure that I'll post my thoughts on the A900s. I'll be going to Ireland for 5 days on Saturday. I'll have a lot of listening time on an airplane and airport, and give my thoughts on how well they isolate jet engines. I'll see how they progress thorugh the break-in period too.

Good time to come to Ireland, it's coming into summer, so it only rains 80% of the time.

I think most 'phones that work well with portables are around about 32ohms or less, I could have dreamed that though.

Of course, the ohm figure doesn't tell the whole story, one 80ohm product may work better than another depending on various other characteristics.
 
I just found something out, what I mistook for a crackling imperfection in the Mel C song was actually the sound of a slight echo coming from her lips. Wow, I just tried some HD-280s and the sound was not nearly as detailed. Once again, If you have an amp, that would probably sort out the other issues.
 
serbiaNem said:
I just found something out, what I mistook for a crackling imperfection in the Mel C song was actually the sound of a slight echo coming from her lips. Wow, I just tried some HD-280s and the sound was not nearly as detailed. Once again, If you have an amp, that would probably sort out the other issues.

Heh, I had a thread a while back called "The curse of the source upgrade", higher end equipment is a double edged sword, you get more detail, but you also pick up more flaws, there's ALOT of crappy CD masters out there with recording defects that regular kit just doesn't show.

It's a Pandoras box.
 
stunna said:
i hear the 770 lack in mid range

Only when unamped, or from low quality sources. The midrange is certainly not as good as other top-end cans, but it's there and it is fairly detailed.
 
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