- Apr 6, 2015
Anyone have these and agree?
Text from the youtube post:op isnt much use for those that cant watch video.
Care to elaborate?
I had Klipsch Promedia and they can't hold a candle to my Energy RC1+sub setup. I expect the JBL 530 are much much better too. I'll have to try and demo them sometime.Best speaker ever would have Scanspeak drivers. Those are the best sounding speakers to my ears. But as far as computer 2.1 audio goes, I really like my Klipsch Promedia set.
Studio 530 | Professional-quality 125-watt Bookshelf Speakershe said $600 a pair, i can't find them anywhere below $950 and that's from Japan on ebay
I think he was referring to the small waveguide around the woofer itself. Or most likely he doesn't understand how horns work.Not sure why he calls that area around the woofer a horn. It's not symmetrical at all (the bottom in particular) and not even remotely big enough to do anything at woofer frequencies. That depth would barely even classify as a waveguide for a tweeter.
I sold my MTS-01, two years ago before moving. Sold a lot of stuff rather than haul it across the country. I'm actually foolish enough to be strongly considering a pair of Ultras. Just waiting to see some reviews of the new Elac Uni-fi B5 before making a decision.I kinda want to hear SVS Ultra speakers, given that I love my SVS MTS-01s. But I kinda don't in that I don't want to then feel like I need to have them and spend a ton more money
Pretty much.. I actually stumbled along his videos when I was researching monitors/speakers for my desk, thought I found a gold mine of reviews. Unfortunately he does no real measurements other than volume levels, everything else is completely subjective. Now that's not really inherently BAD, but you find very quickly watching his videos that whatever item his video covers, is now the next best thing, like he's either convincing himself of his purchase or trying to sell you something (not that that's the case, it's just the vibe I get).So in other words he's never heard a really good set of speakers properly setup so as he works his way up the price performance curve of speakers that suit his tastes each one is going to be the "best speaker ever"? Should you really trust someone reviewing speakers with no room treatments? Just listening to his bloviating reviews makes it clear he's not really familiar with good audio and has no idea about what makes a good speaker or not. I wonder what would happen if he heard really good high end speakers set up properly...
BTW, What's up with the rack full of glasses and sunglasses that we can see in the JBL video?
QFT. Not sure why people are so in to this guy. He sounds like a guy who doesn't have a whole lot of experience to go on and just fanboys over whatever the shiniest toy is he comes across. I'm not hating on the products, I'm sure the JBL speakers are good (JBL is always my go-to in a commercial setting if I don't have something else in mind since they make everything and they are all at least decent) and I am a huge SVS fanboy myself but man. This guy needs some perspective. He needs to go to a mastering studio and hear some REAL high end gear in a good room, so he gets an idea of just how good sound can be, and gets some perspective.So in other words he's never heard a really good set of speakers properly setup so as he works his way up the price performance curve of speakers that suit his tastes each one is going to be the "best speaker ever"? Should you really trust someone reviewing speakers with no room treatments? Just listening to his bloviating reviews makes it clear he's not really familiar with good audio and has no idea about what makes a good speaker or not. I wonder what would happen if he heard really good high end speakers set up properly...
Well, as Sycraft points out untreated rooms can have a variety of problems. No one reading his reviews can tell what problems his room has. He might find a pair of speakers that have minimal negative interaction in his room, but don't perform all that well in general. Yet, he'd conclude they're awesome and better than all the others. If he took measurement from his MLP or also listened to the speakers outside there'd be more value there.I think it's absurd to claim one can't legitimately review speakers unless one does so from an acoustically treated room.
I'd wager more people have treated rooms than there are people doing video reviews online and soliciting review samples.How many people listen to their music, movies, etc. in acoustically treated rooms?
And they're free to do so, I have no opinion of them or their work as I have no idea who they are. I'm not really sure what research of theirs has to do with my opinion of people enjoying flat vs boosted response? If you don't mind pointing it out to me, from a quick googling I came across a blog, and a post about blind testing, but I'm not sure what that has to do with what you quoted. My point isn't about blind tests or anything like that, it's specifically about colored audio. I know people that mess with EQ settings to make the bass thump, I'm not a fan, but to each his own. That's what I'm talking about, what you prefer when it comes to what YOU listen to. I can take my monitors and adjust EQ without anyone else knowing, they won't know which setting is or isn't colored, but they will likely prefer one over the other either way. Which one they will prefer is their opinion, and it might not align with mine, but I'm no more correct than they are. That said, from what I understand, it's better to lop off misbehaving frequencies rather than boost when DSP correcting your monitors, so regardless I feel it's better to start out with something flat and adjust from there. It's exactly like TVs, plenty of people see contrast jacked up on a set and think it looks great, that it looks more "clear" than the one next to it. It doesn't make the color more accurate by any means, and can have the opposite effect, but that doesn't change the fact that they personally enjoy the altered picture more than the unaltered picture.Floyd Toole & Sean Olive absolutely disagree. Their research in this area is pretty convincing.
Welcome to [H]ardform... Where everyone with a keyboard and an Internet connection is an expert.And they're free to do so, I have no opinion of them or their work as I have no idea who they are. I'm not really sure what research of theirs has to do with my opinion of people enjoying flat vs boosted response?
Have you actually heard them? I haven't so I won't make any pronouncements about them.Bowers and Wilkins Nautilus is the Mclaren F1 of speakers. Produced over 20 years now from memory, still a reference speaker...
Bow to your Nautilus overlord!
Then there is the B&W 800D revision 2 which supposedly edges the nautilus out, which perhaps needs a diamond tweeter upgrade.
Then the designer of the nautilus went and made his own speaker which is reputed to be superior (by a fraction at this level..)
You should check out Chris Harris on Youtube, his videos are numerous and review/commentary is golden. It is purely subjective reviews. His style is that of a Top Gear in a one man show.Would you attempt to start a review channel reviewing sporty / performance cars for performance without a having a Racelogic VBOX or similar data logging device that you could use to record objective data with? I sure wouldn't.