Best QX6700 cooler

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nukleuz

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i just wanted to know what coolers you guys have tried with the qx6700 mildly overclocked to like 3ghz
I've been through the tuniq tower and the zalman and still the temps are in the upper 60's.Wodering if there really is a good enough cooler out there for the quads
From what i've read the TEC's dont work well on them overclocked
your thoughts?
 
If your not satisfied with those two your really gonna have to step up to water cooling. If your just cooling the CPU you can get some nice performance out of $150. Look at the prebuilt kits at www.petrastechshop.com
 
i want someone cooling with water to show some screen shots cuz i dont think the difference is gonna be that much anyway
 
nukleuz said:
i want someone cooling with water to show some screen shots cuz i dont think the difference is gonna be that much anyway
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If you believe that water cooling won't make "much of a difference" why do you think that a different air cooler will?
 
drizzt81 said:
If you believe that water cooling won't make "much of a difference" why do you think that a different air cooler will?
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why i said that is i've seen screenies of temps b/n air and water on conroes and the difference wasn't much and it's even so easy to fry your components with water when it leaks and sometimes even pros have leak problems
I'd rather get air cooling and save the hustle or water
 
Tuniq and Zalman are continually at the top of the Air Cooling boards for performance.

If you are not happy with them you really need to move to water....water will get you a bit cooler.

Also note that a 60C load is not bad, it is still plenty within the operating temps.
 
Perhaps you should get some better fans for your case. Move some more air around in your case to help. What is the ambient temp in your room? Can you pipe in cold air from somewhere?
 
A good watercooling setup (doesn't need to be expensive) will drop 10C from your temps easily.

Dtek Fusion waterblock
Swiftech MCR-220QP or Black Ice Pro II for radiator
Laing DDC aka DangerDen DDC aka Swiftech 350 for pump

That will cool your CPU very well and cost around 170$
 
Erasmus354 said:
A good watercooling setup (doesn't need to be expensive) will drop 10C from your temps easily.

Dtek Fusion waterblock
Swiftech MCR-220QP or Black Ice Pro II for radiator
Laing DDC aka DangerDen DDC aka Swiftech 350 for pump

That will cool your CPU very well and cost around 170$
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nothing is guarantee espeically come to watercool a QX6700, i have seem people experiencing bad temperature with watercooling also. btw, it will drop your temperature, but how much?
 
Hey, I dont know if this helps. I set up my QX6700 yesterday on watercooling. There is only one fan on my GTX360 radiator (it can fit 3), and the fan i have is a real crappy one that I found in one of my Pentium 3 computers. I'm still waiting for my 3 fans to come in...these new fans can do 160CFM....but yea what your looking it here is my QX6700 overclocked to 2.93 ghz on an inefficent watercooling radiator. I get temps at 42 degrees if its at rated 2.66 speed.

I dont know anything about temps or what a good temp is. But I'm extracting a 25gigabyte HD DVD (Batman Begins) when I took the screenshot below. And im downloading more at the same time. As you can see disk usage is at 100%, cpu is at 25%.

you can visit the video i just made last night after building my pc (took all weekend!) here. I'm going to redo it since i keep saying "umm".

extractingki3.jpg
 
vnr111 said:
Hey, I dont know if this helps. I set up my QX6700 yesterday on watercooling. There is only one fan on my GTX360 radiator (it can fit 3), and the fan i have is a real crappy one that I found in one of my Pentium 3 computers. I'm still waiting for my 3 fans to come in...these new fans can do 160CFM....but yea what your looking it here is my QX6700 overclocked to 2.93 ghz on an inefficent watercooling radiator. I get temps at 42 degrees if its at rated 2.66 speed.

I dont know anything about temps or what a good temp is. But I'm extracting a 25gigabyte HD DVD (Batman Begins) when I took the screenshot below. And im downloading more at the same time. As you can see disk usage is at 100%, cpu is at 25%.
looks good!
crank it up to 3.2ghz and see if the temps still good?
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I actually just took my computer apart. My evga 680i mobo was defective (first 2 DIMMs werent working), so I packed it back up to get it exchanged tomorrow at Fry's. I will let you know about the temps once I put it all back in.

My Delta EFB1212SHE fans should be coming in on thursday. I cant wait to mount these on the Black Ice GTX360 Gen II radiator. I got them from Sidewinder Computers here. These can blow out 160 CFM...most other "quiet" case fans average 40-60CFM. You can see a slight comparison chart at the bottom of this page here...

Its got a sweet look to it - 3 winged fan:
sidewindercomputers_1936_16747464


Although these fans sound like a jet engine on highest RPM, i got a fan controller to control it. Only going to turn it all the way up during gaming or to get maximum clock speeds.

Also regarding the testing 3.2 gigahertz speed, I will try once I get this mobo replaced, but I'm sure as you know the 680i runs really unstable on the quad core, with speeds over 3 gigahertz due to the FSB issue. But the fix should be coming out this week!
 
vnr111 said:
I dont know anything about temps or what a good temp is. But I'm extracting a 25gigabyte HD DVD (Batman Begins) when I took the screenshot below. And im downloading more at the same time. As you can see disk usage is at 100%, cpu is at 25%.
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CPU usage only 11% and your temperature in the 50s with 1.375v. imagine the cpu usage up to 100%, temperature prob in the 60s and 70s.
 
I use a swiftech H20 Ultra water cooled setup....currently CPU only. Im reasonably new to overclocking beyond basic bus speed increases and still learning along the way.

I have found the way you overclock makes a huge temp difference, not just the speed. ie raising multiplier increases temp by x but raising bus speed instead increases temp by y...despite the overall cpu speed being the same in both scenarios.

Note that all the temps below are as measured with Intel's TAT program, which appears to measure temps more accurately than most programs which read much lower. Ambient temp = 22 degrees Celsius (72 F).

Initially I used 10 x 305MHz at auto cpu and ram voltages. I got great cpu cache throughput but crap ram throughput as I had to run my ram at its proper 5-5-5-15 32T timings. I have Corsair Dominator PC-9136 RAM.

Memtest results were:
L1 cache: 50,059 MB/s
L2 cache: 21,354 MB/s
RAM : 2209 MB/s (absolute crap!)

I first increased the RAM throughput by almost 30% by changing it to 21T.

Temps were around 62 degrees celsius (150 F) idle and ran up to high 60's (~153 F)under load.


After a ton of memory testing (more to go too!) with memtest to try to get faster ram throughput, I have ended up with this for the time being:

10 x 292 Mhz. Ram is at 4-4-4-12 18T. Voltages are auto.

L1 cache: 47,943 MB/s
L2 cache: 20,451 MB/s
RAM : 3570 MB/s (better but Im sure it can go higher!)

So while cpu L1 and L2 cache throughput has dropped a few percent, RAM throughput has increased by over 60%! A fair tradeoff in my book.

And cpu temp has decreased too, which doesnt hurt.(Now to try for even better timings...)

Currently I have been running 4 instances of Prime95 for the last 90 minutes and all cpu's have been non stop running at 100%. CPU temps in TAT range from 56-61 degrees. (132 F to 141 F). Idle temps around 40-42 (104-107 F)
 
nukleuz said:
i want someone cooling with water to show some screen shots cuz i dont think the difference is gonna be that much anyway
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idle and load temps on a 6600 @ 1.5125v

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/ghost6303/my%20PC/1111.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/ghost6303/my PC/22222.jpg

nukleuz said:
I dont know anything about temps or what a good temp is. But I'm extracting a 25gigabyte HD DVD (Batman Begins) when I took the screenshot below. And im downloading more at the same time. As you can see disk usage is at 100%, cpu is at 25%.
looks good!
crank it up to 3.2ghz and see if the temps still good?
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use a program like orthos or prime95 (or i use one instance of Folding@Home per CPU core) to peg the cpu usage at 100% let this run for a little bit and take a temp reading. this will tell you your load temp.
when you close all the programs and the usage falls to around 0-5% take a reading, this is your idle temp. anything in between fluctuates too much to use as a benchmark
 
How do you get FOlding@home to run more than one instance. I can only get it to max out one core..?
 
just put in the replacement 680i....man its a pain with watercooling tubes in the way. I ran the multiplier at 13x...heres what i got at idle. i will post cpu loaded temps tomorrow once I manage to put some of those fans on the radiator.

13multiplierdo2.jpg
 
why does your cpu say Q6100?
mine has never done that even on vista but those are some nice temps you got going man
i envy you
 
haha thanks.

Yea im glad you had this threaed going, I would have just ignored my temps until the fans came in, now itll be interesting to see if they really make a difference or not.

What temps do you get if you run yours at 13X multiplier? I just tried mine at 14X, booted to windows, and in about a minute of browsing the internet it restarted.

And yea, I dont know why it says Q10000? I just downloaded CoreTemp yesterday too? hmm
 
vnr111 said:
haha thanks.

Yea im glad you had this threaed going, I would have just ignored my temps until the fans came in, now itll be interesting to see if they really make a difference or not.

What temps do you get if you run yours at 13X multiplier? I just tried mine at 14X, booted to windows, and in about a minute of browsing the internet it restarted.

And yea, I dont know why it says Q10000? I just downloaded CoreTemp yesterday too? hmm
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i dont intend going any higher than where i am right now 3ghz cuz my temps are nothing at all compared with yours.I idle at 65 i think so until i get a water setup like yours i dont think i'm trying anything
i think i'm gonna need you to list your specs you got for the water setup on www.newegg.com or similar for me please :)
 
nukleuz said:
i dont intend going any higher than where i am right now 3ghz cuz my temps are nothing at all compared with yours.I idle at 65 i think so until i get a water setup like yours i dont think i'm trying anything
i think i'm gonna need you to list your specs you got for the water setup on www.newegg.com or similar for me please :)
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65... Man... You trying to cook dinner on that thing? With loads that has to be dangerously high. Way to uncomfortable for me anyway.
 
These are all the parts I got. I got it from Sidewindercomputers.com. They are great! I spoke to a guy named Gary, he really knows his stuff when it comes to water cooling, and ships it out same day. Probably sent 30-40 emails or so back and forth to him. And the sites got excellent reviews on resellerratings.com.

x3 120mm Black fan guards
x3 Delta EFB1212LE
x1 Black Ice GTX 360 Generation II (triple radiator)
x1 Swiftech MCP655 pump
x1 Apogee GT Extreme CPU block
x1 MCW60-R GPU block
x1 MC14s & MC8800 graphics RAM heatsinks
x9 feet of Tygon 1/2 x 3/4" R3603
Some 3706 Clamps
Some H Herbie Clips
x1 MCRES Micro
 
vnr111 said:
These are all the parts I got. I got it from Sidewindercomputers.com. They are great! I spoke to a guy named Gary, he really knows his stuff when it comes to water cooling, and ships it out same day. Probably sent 30-40 emails or so back and forth to him. And the sites got excellent reviews on resellerratings.com.

x3 120mm Black fan guards
x3 Delta EFB1212LE
x1 Black Ice GTX 360 Generation II (triple radiator)
x1 Swiftech MCP655 pump
x1 Apogee GT Extreme CPU block
x1 MCW60-R GPU block
x1 MC14s & MC8800 graphics RAM heatsinks
x9 feet of Tygon 1/2 x 3/4" R3603
Some 3706 Clamps
Some H Herbie Clips
x1 MCRES Micro
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thanks
 
Hey nukleuz,

I think you'll get a kick out of this. I finally got the fans I keep talking about. Wow check it out!

So this is the QX6700 on idle load. Still 13X multiplier

idlecpumv2.jpg



And this is it after about 5 minutes of running Folding@Home each on all 4 cores.

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Wow!!! this has got to be the best quad core water cooling system on the planet!! im in love...i think
 
WoW is this a retail chip?
man i think you are the very first one with good good temps on the quad man
i hope the chip is retail though

can you show a pic of the rig and the inside or however you have it set up?

man i cant wait to get my hands on a water cooling hardware wheni get my paycheck!
 
Run Orthos or OCCT, F@H may peg your CPU usage at 100% but it doesn't heat a CPU to its fullest. I bet your temps will be higher with one of those other programs.
 
Here are some pics for you! Or here's a slide show of it all!

Part 1. The equipment!

the case - TJ07!


the processor, mobo, and RAM


the peripherals...hdd's x2 (4 total)


now, the most important...the cooling!!



Part 2. The insides after installation!


CPU cooling and memory!!


Cooling: GPU Block, Ram sinks, radiator, Fans, and tubes



Part 3. Turning it on and overclocking!


Now its all together! sexy case huh?


Fan controller & peripherals! Fan controller is essential cause these fans are not exactly silent


Now the turning it on and overclocking w/ temps! CPU multiplier is 13X


Part 4. click here for a little video i made.

Lemme know if you got any comments or tips how to OC this baby even more. I cant wait for the 680i FSB fix, I should be able to push this to 4ghz.
 
I seem to have a lot of time this week for tweaking (cant go to work, taking care of a very dependant grandparent while the other grandparent is in the hospital for a week)

I have a QX6700es with a Coolit Freezone modified with a 114cfm 120mm fan. This evening I did some very preliminary tests in my room with the window open (its -17c outside) because my room has poor ventilation, normally has ambient of 25c and contains about 28GHz of folding machines. Opened the window to take the ambient temp out of the equation (for now, one I'm at a stable level, I'll test it in normal ambient temps. Got the room down to 13c (near window) 17c (logitec keyboard near desk/comp)

I plan a dedicated thread to my trials and tribulations, stay tuned.
 
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