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Best PPD for gaming GPU?

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I'm assuming nvidia still has an advantage for ppd for GPUs. What models should I consider that are very good for folding and also very good gaming cards for 1920x1200.
 
jimh425 said:
I'm assuming nvidia still has an advantage for ppd for GPUs. What models should I consider that are very good for folding and also very good gaming cards for 1920x1200.
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What's your budget?

A 680GTX can handle everything quite well and will turn in 20k ppd....
 
a 670 should be plenty for 1920x1200. At that res memory isn't much of an issue unless your doing hella modding like in Skyrim or playing Max Payne. I think you can snag some 670's for around $350, maybe lower with good deals.
 
What are the biggest consideration for folding: shaders, GPU frequency, Amount of RAM, RAM speed, or other?

BTW, I'm moving from a 4870x3 which just puts out way too much heat to leave on all of the time, and not a good folder from what I understand.
 
Wow, time to upgrade. Those cards use a ton of power at idle, new cards use around 10W when you're not gaming. GTX 670 or 680 is the obvious upgrade if you want to keep the card for another 4 years. GTX 660 or 660 Ti would also be an upgrade from your 4870's for gaming. I'm not sure which of those two is faster for folding but they are both a tier lower than the top end GTX 670/680. Unless your budget is tight get the 670 for high performance with a bit better value than the 680 which is only 10% faster.
 
jimh425 said:
What are the biggest consideration for folding: shaders, GPU frequency, Amount of RAM, RAM speed, or other?
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Shader count is definitely a factor, but you can see that between generations of GPU this number seems to triple and quadruple... this does NOT however triple and quadruple PPD.

Shader clocks are important, but should increase the core clock a little too at the same time.

Don't worry about the amount of RAM or it's speed. That doesn't mean downclock it though.
 
Generally, more core and faster shader clocks make the best GPU folders.. If you buying with folding in mind, I'd wait a few weeks. It would appear the GPU folding points are getting a major overhaul with large points for Quick Return Bonus (QRB).
 
bowlinra said:
Generally, more core and faster shader clocks make the best GPU folders.. If you buying with folding in mind, I'd wait a few weeks. It would appear the GPU folding points are getting a major overhaul with large points for Quick Return Bonus (QRB).
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I can only speak for my 560Ti and X4 @ 3.75GHz. When I leave my PC on for weeks 24/7 (cuz I work out of state sometimes) I average 24-25k PPD. I also run it @ 900/1800/2200 like it says in my sig. Im on GF laptop today but if u want I can upload a pic if u dont believe me. I bet a 560ti is like 200 or less these days. Could be best bang for buck when it comes to folding but I havent tested everycard lul.
 
I'm going to disagree with all Kepler suggestions as this is the distributed computing section rather than gaming. You'd be better off with a 570 or 580. You can actually overclock and overvolt them to get them close to Kepler on gaming, but they smash Kepler, especially on p8057, because they can use core 2.22 and Kepler has to use 2.5.
 
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BWG! said:
I'm going to disagree with all Kepler suggestions as this is the distributed computing section rather than gaming. You'd be better off with a 570 or 580. You can actually overclock and overvolt them to get them close to Kepler on gaming, but they smash Kepler, especially on p8057, because they can use core 2.22 and Kepler has to use 2.5.
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Could you explain? For example, I have no idea what the references to Kepler are all about.

Thanks.
 
Keplar is the core name of the nVidia 6 series GPU's. The folding @ home PPD is better on Fermi (4 & 5 Series) core GPU right now because of some folding core optimization issues on Kelpler GPU's.

A 580 can consistently do 225k - 250k on project 8057 and usually 27-35k PPD on all other projects on core 2.22. Core 2.22 is up to 30% more PPD than core 2.5 on Fermi GPU's. Since Kepler cannot run on anything but core 2.5 it's at a 30% disadvantage.

I can actually show you some live numbers in the competition we run at the other forum called The Team Competition. If you go to the nVidia section, hover over a folder, jot down his team name and gpu model, and then click team and his team name in the top navigation bar on this site http://tc.folding.net/index.php?p=category

You can compare what people folding 24/7 are putting up.

Here is a 580: MakoKid http://tc.folding.net/index.php?p=team&team=Laundromatic
Here is a 680: OverK1LL http://tc.folding.net/index.php?p=team&team=Big+Bang+Theorists

Both have folded 24/7 since 8057 launched. Sure, some luck is involved, but not even close really.
 
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BWG! said:
You can actually overclock and overvolt them to get them close to Kepler on gaming, but they smash Kepler, especially on p8057, because they can use core 2.22 and Kepler has to use 2.5.
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While I agree that Fermi is better for PPD, no amount of overclocking can bring the gaming experience close to Kepler.
 
For the best compromise I'd go with Kepler. PPD is not as good as Fermi, but gaming is much better.
 
At 1920x1200 gaming, with todays games... a 570 or 580 will be fine.
 
David_Schroth said:
Not BF3.
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Because 49 fps isn't playable. :rolleyes:
 
For sometime gaming and all the time folding on the eve of the GPU QRB. Its going to be hard to beat a used GTX 580 ~$200 on ebay.
 
That's exactly what I was leaning on, the price, and what it does now. Kendrak is so right though. Who knows how QRB will shake out in the near future. He does make perfect sense, and I do believe Kepler will get the attention it needs from Pande.
 
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