best places for temp probs?

[strikeout]

i got a new fan controller/temp monitor w/4 probes. i wanna probe the NB,VGA,and CPU. I heard the best place is on the side of the heatspreader on the CPU. These probes are kinda long and flat i dunno if it will fit right, im assuming the flat side goes vertical right against the side. Also where do the probes for VGA and NB go? they dont have heat spreaders do they?

 

[noypi86]

you should be able to put the probe between the core and heatsink if you want the best results.

 

[thefordmccord]

you should be able to put the probe between the core and heatsink if you want the best results.

Uhm, don't do that. That is the worst advice I have ever heard. If you put a probe between the CPU and the heat sink, then the heat will not transfer from the CPU to the heat sink properly. You should try to do some reading before you go around here giving out advice that will destroy people's hardware.

BTW, strikeout , an external thermal probe is never going to be 100% accurate no matter where you put it.

 

[noypi86]

Uhm, don't do that. That is the worst advice I have ever heard. If you put a probe between the CPU and the heat sink, then the heat will not transfer from the CPU to the heat sink properly. You should try to do some reading before you go around here giving out advice that will destroy people's hardware.

BTW, strikeout , an external thermal probe is never going to be 100% accurate no matter where you put it.

go read Maximum PC, advice was straight out from one of their articles

kthnx

im not sure you know what a probe looks like, you only need the tip of the probe which is as thick has a hair, i may have a n00bie right under my nick but i am my A+ Cert for 4 years now and worked in a datacenter (The Planet, Dallas, TX) configuring and assembling computers all day long.

how about you? you need to go read first before striking down an advice, just goes to show you have no clue what your talking about.

if your CPU has a metal plate on it, then putting it in the sides might give you a a reading but it'll be off by a couple degrees, ifs its just the core showing i dont see where you can place it.

 

[Decker87]

go read Maximum PC, advice was straight out from one of their articles

kthnx

i may have a n00bie right under my nick but i am my A+ Cert for 4 years now and worked in a datacenter (The Planet, Dallas, TX) configuring and assembling computers all day long..

I'm not trying to insult you here, but just so you know, 'round these parts, maximum PC doesn't get a ton of respect, and an A+ Cert means about as much as "I can run a toaster". I'm not saying anything about your ability personally, but I have known other A+ Certs that were complete retards, so that's not a good guage.

if your CPU has a metal plate on it, then putting it in the sides might give you a a reading but it'll be off by a couple degrees, ifs its just the core showing i dont see where you can place it.

I'm not sure what you mean here. Every CPU has a metal core. Is this what you mean by 'plate'? Or maybe you are talking about a heatsink?

 

[J'Tok]

DO NOT put a probe between a heatsink and a CPU. Here's why...
1) The goal with a heatsink is to have as much surface area as possible touching the CPU heat spreader or core (this depends on the model you're using). Sticking a probe in will raise this WAY too much.
2) Even with a perfectly smooth looking heatsink, sometimes only as much as 1% of surface area is touching; due to imperfections in the surface. This is why we use thermal paste. Thermal paste can fill in these gaps, and increase the surface area contactact up to as much as 99%ish.
3) Too much thermal paste is a bad thing - too much CAN and WILL decrease cooling performance. You need just a thin layer. DO NOT put a heat probe in, then use thermal paste to fill in the "hair sized" gap. Hair Sized is BIG when it comes to this.

P.S. Potentially, with older model CPUs, that have exposed dies (no heatspreader), I have heard of people wedging the probe in as close as possible to the core, without actually going on top of it. I don't know if this will hurt, or provide better accuracy, or what. So I would read up before actually doing this, but it sounds like it should work.
P.P.S. Like was said above... A temp probe will never give a truly percise reading...

Best O Luck

 

[sarbz]

I'm not sure what you mean here. Every CPU has a metal core. Is this what you mean by 'plate'? Or maybe you are talking about a heatsink?

he's talking about an IHS. Integrated Heat Spreader. His A+ cert must not have covered that

I also reccommend NOT putting it between the heatsink & chip. You might get accurate readings, but they'll be higher because of the huge gap you'll be creating between the two.

Oh and noypi86....stick a probe between your opteron and your xp-90 and see if you can still achieve 3.25ghz stable

 

[noypi86]

I wouldnt mess with something perfect, but if i had to i would do it and i might get 3.3 and give it to you as a present.

Yes its the IHS, no my A+ didnt cover it, dont be an ass sarbz . It was just much simpler to say then to explain if someone else didnt know.

Decker87, its not a metal core its called a semiconductor. Also refer to sarbz answer.
A+ is a standard companies look for if you want a entry level tech job, i see alot of computer "guru" wannabe's around but cant back up their knowledge, if its so easy everyone here should have one. Don't diss the A+, it gets you employed even if its just a small cert, but i do understand some retards somehow got one as well

I guess you guys haven't seen them, two wire probes thinner than your artic silver when flat, easily bought at frys, i think my coolermaster fans had a probe very simmilar.

Your dealing with the IHS, something very thin will not affect temps.

but i was wrong on giving the idea of putting a probe on top of the bare core itself, it'll impress upon the bare core and damage your CPU, should be all good at the sides..

 

[Decker87]

Decker87, its not a metal core its called a semiconductor.

Isn't it both?

 

[thevelourfog]

Your dealing with the IHS, something very thin will not affect temps.

but i was wrong on giving the idea of putting a probe on top of the bare core itself, it'll impress upon the bare core and damage your CPU, should be all good at the sides..

Like J'Tok said, I wouldn't put anthing besides thermal paste between the heatsink and cpu. I personally polish my heatsinks to get them more even, since they are often uneven. Adding a probe inbetween could make things more uneven, since the thermal paste should be spread very thin and may shift if you put the heatsink on incorrectly.

Not may people crack open the metal cover to get at the core either.

 

[Megadeth_Guy01]

It WILL (contrary to popular belief ) increase your temps by having anything else besides thermal compound inbetween your CPU and heatsink.
If you really want your precious thermal probe stick it beside your core or IHS, whichever you have.

 

[sarbz]

I wouldnt mess with something perfect, but if i had to i would do it and i might get 3.3 and give it to you as a present.

Yes its the IHS, no my A+ didnt cover it, dont be an ass sarbz . It was just much simpler to say then to explain if someone else didnt know.

Decker87, its not a metal core its called a semiconductor. Also refer to sarbz answer.
A+ is a standard companies look for if you want a entry level tech job, i see alot of computer "guru" wannabe's around but cant back up their knowledge, if its so easy everyone here should have one. Don't diss the A+, it gets you employed even if its just a small cert, but i do understand some retards somehow got one as well

I guess you guys haven't seen them, two wire probes thinner than your artic silver when flat, easily bought at frys, i think my coolermaster fans had a probe very simmilar.

Your dealing with the IHS, something very thin will not affect temps.

but i was wrong on giving the idea of putting a probe on top of the bare core itself, it'll impress upon the bare core and damage your CPU, should be all good at the sides..

I am an ass , and proud of it. The people on this forum are considered [H]ardcore enthusiasts. Many of us lap our heatsinks in order to achieve optimal contact between the heatsink and core. Some of us even lap our IHS's. If a hair fell into the thermal compound we just applied while installing a heatsink, we would remove the hair because it just might take away some valuable surface area.

So you don't need to call it a "metal plate" just because you don't think we'll know what you mean if you say IHS.

Take that into context when posting next time. This isn't Grandmasgatewayforum.com

 

[heero884]

i got a new fan controller/temp monitor w/4 probes. i wanna probe the NB,VGA,and CPU. I heard the best place is on the side of the heatspreader on the CPU. These probes are kinda long and flat i dunno if it will fit right, im assuming the flat side goes vertical right against the side. Also where do the probes for VGA and NB go? they dont have heat spreaders do they?

DO NOT PUT THE PROBE BETWEEN THE CPU AND THE HEATSINK, assuming you do not break anything your cpu/vga/chipset will overheat http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=123549

A+ is a standard companies look for if you want a entry level tech job, i see alot of computer "guru" wannabe's around but cant back up their knowledge, if its so easy everyone here should have one. Don't diss the A+, it gets you employed even if its just a small cert, but i do understand some retards somehow got one as well

you have no clue how true that is

im not sure you know what a probe looks like, you only need the tip of the probe which is as thick has a hair, i may have a n00bie right under my nick but i am my A+ Cert for 4 years now and worked in a datacenter (The Planet, Dallas, TX) configuring and assembling computers all day long.

according to aip.org a strand of hair is about .075mm, the probe is a lot thicker then that

I guess you guys haven't seen them, two wire probes thinner than your artic silver when flat, easily bought at frys, i think my coolermaster fans had a probe very simmilar.

according to arcticsilver.com the thickness of arctic silver ceramique when it is applied is 0.00635mm your probe is a lot thicker then that

i dont have a+ certification but i can do research

i suggest putting your probe between the fins closest to the base of the heatsink for optimum results on your cpu/vga/chipet.

 

[strikeout]

i have this as my hsf, i guess ill just stick it up top of where it mounts or on the side,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835128009