Best card for $200?

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Most 7600GT's are around $150-160, and most 7900GTs are $250+.

What inbetween or what's good from Ati for $200.

Thanks for any help.
 
Anything x1800 is good in between the 7600gt and the 7900gt. x1800gto or x1800xl are usually in that price gap. If you look around a bit you can find x1800xt's for under $200 as well. Or you could roll the dice and try a re-certified 7900gt for just slighty over $200.
 
Wow, you are joking right? x850xt is old technology. The x1800 will outperform it and will outlast it. OEM or not, a very good deal
 
NewMonster said:
x1800xt may be 200 dollar but thats OEM not retail

best bang is x850xtPE retail factory sealed... orginal box...brand new!!!! everything included!!! plus a free game!!! from gecube only 189.99!!!

u can play every current games on max settings gurenteed!!!! in fact im getting one real so0n!!! maybe next saturday!

Yes, yes, yes, we know... :rolleyes:

But he asked what ATI card is in between a 7600GT and a 7900GT for $200, and the X850XT PE is equivalent to a 7600GT. Hence, it does not answer the OP's question...

X850XT PE is a good card, however. I have one as a matter of fact.
 
PWMK2 said:
Yes, yes, yes, we know... :rolleyes:

But he asked what ATI card is in between a 7600GT and a 7900GT for $200, and the X850XT PE is equivalent to a 7600GT. Hence, it does not answer the OP's question...

X850XT PE is a good card, however. I have one as a matter of fact.

yeah he said what car dof ATi are in between 7600gt and 7900gt.... the answer is x850xtPE! and near 200 dollar

x850xtPE equivlent to a 7600gt u say??? yeahh right "sarcastic" x850xtPE eats 7600gt alive! x850xtPE is more equivalent to a 7800gt/x1800gto

Wow, you are joking right? x850xt is old technology. The x1800 will outperform it and will outlast it. OEM or not, a very good deal

x850xtPE is old technology? do u mean x1300 beats x850xtPE as well? my butt!!! old technology or new does not matter if the card is shhhiiit!

and ofcourse the x1800xt swallowed x850xtPE. but still i think x850xtPE is the best bang for 200 dollar budget and plus its retail and with counter strike. if the OP can get x1800xt retail... itll be great!
 
NewMonster said:
yeah he said what car dof ATi are in between 7600gt and 7900gt.... the answer is x850xtPE! and near 200 dollar

x850xtPE equivlent to a 7600gt u say??? yeahh right "sarcastic" x850xtPE eats 7600gt alive! x850xtPE is more equivalent to a 7800gt/x1800gto



x850xtPE is old technology? do u mean x1300 beats x850xtPE as well? my butt!!! old technology or new does not matter if the card is shhhiiit!

and ofcourse the x1800xt swallowed x850xtPE. but still i think x850xtPE is the best bang for 200 dollar budget and plus its retail and with counter strike. if the OP can get x1800xt retail... itll be great!

Dude what are you smoking? Give me some!!! :confused:

XT is equivalent to 7600GT or the 1800GTO minus HDR... But no way does it compete with 7800gt or 1800xt around $200...
 
Marvelous said:
Dude what are you smoking? Give me some!!! :confused:

XT is equivalent to 7600GT or the 1800GTO minus HDR... But no way does it compete with 7800gt or 1800xt around $200...

this gonna be my last post... jus wanted to reply to u b4 leaving... yup theres no way x1800xt competes with x850xtPE.

the x1800xt is not around $200 well it is 199 OEM non retail and the retail one usually cost 250 and the x850xtPE is a true 200 budget card
 
LOL. why don't you just buy an X850XT and overclock that. It's just like a 20mhz core overclock and a 40 or so mhz memory overclock. and you can find an X850XT for cheaper, way cheaper. how about this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102505

sapphire X850XT Retail for 155 + a 30 dollar mail in rebate.

i don't know what the hell you people are smoking, but w/e. If you want a good card with potential, go HIS X1800GTO non ice.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161004

200 with 10 dollar MIR. 12 pipe card, but everyone who's gave a review has said it can flash to 16 pipes. That's a pretty good turnout. It's a chance, but you get Sm3 along with everything else. It's not a bad card, competeing with the 7600GT.

I'd recommend anyone who wants a budget graphics card (like 100-150ish) X800 series cards. you've got more money than that, don't go X800//x850 series. it won't last you
 
oh my god the X1800xt dropped...I feel so stupid. WHY?!?!?!? I already bought an X850XT.

Oh well!
 
lloose said:
x850xt is still a nice card
No, don't get me wrong. I love maxing out BF2 and CS:S. The card even stays at a nice 39C when I put the jet engine on 100%...it's just that I didn't want to upgrade for a while, so an X1800XT would've been a better choice.

The 100 dollar price tag is worth it though. DAMN it's loud. =[
 
I just got a x1900gt and I love it.. nice and quiet too. Its just hot. I will slap on a zalaman in a few weeks.
 
@lloose, what made you chose the x19gt over an x18xt or 79gt? Also, what happened to your dual 7600gts?

MH
 
There are a lot of factors..

First off, I always purchase locally. I know it is more expensive, but I love having the piece of mind that comes from buying locally. If its broke, I just take it back.. no dealing with sloppy rma's, no restocking fee, no newegg customer service line hold times.. Its well worth it to spend an extra $40 and get that "warranty".

Why not 7900gt?
- 1st off, price. The best local deal I could find was at bestbuy for $330.. I didn't want to spend that much. 2nd off, nvidia's drivers drive me nuts. the 9x series are almost completely useless for amd boards.. so I either had to deal with some artifacting with the 9x drivers or go with the older 8x drivers and run slower w/ no artifacts. On top of all that, a LOT of the 7900gt's were bad off the production line. I didn't want to have to search for a WORKING card. The final blow was the 512 buffer that the x1800 and x1900 series offered. It makes running at higher res much easier. The 7900gt doesn't have this feature. Because of these features, the x1900 series is a lot more "future proof" and a lot of people will agree that it will play future games a lot better than its 7900gt rival.

Why not the x1800xt
- Really, the x1900gt and x1800xt are really close. It came down to stock. My local shops only had the x1900 series. I did my research and I found that the x1900 does better on the games that I play often (bf2, oblivion, wow etc). AAF + HDR = x1900 ftw.

Why did I get rid of my sli 7600gt's?
- Like I said earlier, I had driver issues. The cards were great and they were actually the first Nvidia cards that I got working the way I wanted them to. The biggest reason why I got them was that I have a sli board and I figured I might as well use it. The 7600gt's got a few more fps in my games, but not enough for me to care (about 10ish in each game). I love sli, but will wait for them to come out with some better drivers before I invest more into the green side. Ati has always been a rocksolid graphics solution for me and have never let me down (even though my sli setup was "faster").
 
zeroARMY said:
What inbetween or what's good from Ati for $200.
Well, it's not ATi anymore...it's AMD! lol well i would go for the x1800 i think you can find an open box one for $200 if u can bare with that. if not go with a 7600GT you'll be happy.
 
That makes sense. I guess Im gonna find out about the SLI drive issues soon :eek:

OP: If i was forced to choose between an x850xtpe and a 7600gt, i would go 7600gt for sure. Im not sure why anyone would suggest a $190 x850xtpe. Like someone else said, get the x850xt for $105 over the x850xtpe for $190. Also, the x1800xt will spank both, and the only thing that you need out of the retail box is the power cord, which can be bought on the forums for $5. (I just bought 2, 1 for $4 and 1 for $5, I could even sell you one if you need) I would recommend you look around the FS/T forums as well.

MH
 
NewMonster said:
this gonna be my last post... jus wanted to reply to u b4 leaving... yup theres no way x1800xt competes with x850xtPE.

the x1800xt is not around $200 well it is 199 OEM non retail and the retail one usually cost 250 and the x850xtPE is a true 200 budget card

There's no difference between OEM or retail... Only thing is you get retail box...
 
NewMonster said:
yeah he said what car dof ATi are in between 7600gt and 7900gt.... the answer is x850xtPE! and near 200 dollar

x850xtPE equivlent to a 7600gt u say??? yeahh right "sarcastic" x850xtPE eats 7600gt alive! x850xtPE is more equivalent to a 7800gt/x1800gto



x850xtPE is old technology? do u mean x1300 beats x850xtPE as well? my butt!!! old technology or new does not matter if the card is shhhiiit!

and ofcourse the x1800xt swallowed x850xtPE. but still i think x850xtPE is the best bang for 200 dollar budget and plus its retail and with counter strike. if the OP can get x1800xt retail... itll be great!

I can accurately surmise based on your wanton butchery of the English language and the voice and attitude expressed by your posts that your suggestions will be disregarded without a second thought.
 
StealthyFish said:
I'd recommend anyone who wants a budget graphics card (like 100-150ish) X800 series cards. you've got more money than that, don't go X800//x850 series. it won't last you

I bet you it will last as much as your 7600gt...
 
I would disagree, i think a 7600gt will perform better/longer than an x8 series card. I mean, its kind of common sense, right? The card came out later, has more features, faster clocks, a more efficient architecture. The 7600gt beats an x8 series card stock, and will oc better than any x8 series card.

MH
 
NewMonster, I don't get what you have against OEM. It is a brand new card, it just doesn't come in a retail box. I don't see why you wouldn't spend 10 more bucks on a card that will blow the X850XT PE out of the water in everything. Plus the X850XT PE does not have Pixel Shader 3.0, which makes things look much better. Now that the X1800XT is $200, for the money you cannot get a new card that can beat it.
 
Guys, X800XT does not equal 7600GT but X850XT does. I really don't want to bring up 3dMark here, but the ORB more or less confirms this as well, as does many actual in-game benchmarks (not counting games like Doom 3 which favor nvidia cards).

But the X1800XT will blow both the 7600GT and X850XT out of the water and you can get it for only $200. It's really the only wise choice here given the OP's budget.
 
Horsepower-wise the x850 holds its own against the 7600gt. Surely though, neither is going to fare well against the x1800's
 
GonzoP said:
Horsepower-wise the x850 holds its own against the 7600gt. Surely though, neither is going to fare well against the x1800's

There's something wrong with the benchmark on that page you listed. There's no way the 7600GT would only get 3055 in 3dMark05. Most of the benchies I've seen put it at around double that, closer to 6100. Especially since it has the 3dMark06 score at 5760?! :confused:
 
PWMK2 said:
There's something wrong with the benchmark on that page you listed. There's no way the 7600GT would only get 3055 in 3dMark05. Most of the benchies I've seen put it at around double that, closer to 6100. Especially since it has the 3dMark06 score at 5760?! :confused:


No in that benchmark 3dmark 2005 has 5760... And 2006 has 3055

Right now the 850xt I have now is benchmarking 6184 @ default on a pentium D @ 3666

when overcookeed 6845 @590/610...

3dmark 2005 is more realistic than 2006... http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2148539
 
What he said

Even if you get a massive OC on a 7600gt the x850's can stretch their legs quite a bit as well. Other than the DX9c features its a virtual push overall
 
I had a pair of galaxy 7300gt ddr3 retail with the current market price at bout 180USD after conversion and it score around 20.5k in 3dmark03. Can it consider one of the best offering below 200USD? ;)
 
Marvelous said:
No in that benchmark 3dmark 2005 has 5760... And 2006 has 3055

Wow, yeah, you're right... guess my eyes got a little retarded there, sorry about that.
 
If youre patient and a little lucky you could eBay for a 7900GT around $200. Thats my next plan. Gotten my last couple cards that way with no problem - EXCEPT for PNY cards that is. ;)

EDIT: Okay after shipping its actually more like $225ish average. But patience! ...and obsessive checking...
 
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