Best 8gb ram ?

Proteos said:
I got 2 packs of 4GB (2x2) g.skill 1066. I like them a lot :)

EDIT: I suggest you look up specs on your mobo and see if anyone has had any issues filling all 4 DIMMs. Some people can't drop 8 gigs because their motherboard is finicky when it comes to using all available slots.
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that's what i am planning on running as well, we have the g.skill 1066 1x2 right now and it works pretty good and it oc'd quite well
 
jdbrown_82 said:
ok so ive got it narrowed down to OCZ tech or Corsair. which do you guys think i should go with?

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145214

OR


OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227289

OR if they OCZ heat sinks dont fit.

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227298
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same question still. anyone want to take a stab at it ?
 
yeah thats what i was thinking. they said only one MIR though. i told the lady at Tigerdirect... i dont care ill pay it. i want 8gb and i want it overnighted.. :p
 
wildkatz84 said:
8 is to much
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yes, for most people 8gigs is overkill... and I had someone the other night telling me I wasted my money on my 8 gigs.

Then while working on a project the other night using Photoshop CS3, After Effects CS3 & Premiere Pro CS3 and Adobe Encoder rendering some files at the same time without any hiccups or lag (and using over 6 gigs of the 8) a smile came to my face. :cool:
 
I just posted this on the Maingear board as well. I know its long but please read it. i need help and im honestly confused now.



I just got the ram in the mail. i went ahead and opened it so i could try it out in my wifes prelude. want to make sure i didnt get any bad sticks.

i put them all in and the bios said 800mhz and 8gb of ram. ill get to the timing in a sec. it almosted loaded to windows then it froze. it will not make it past the windows vista loading bar.

i thought maybe one is bad so i took two out and then i tried it again and it loaded right up. i put one bar back in and loaded it fine. said i have 6gb. i tried putting the other back in and same problem. i switched things around and tried it a couple more times with the same stick. seems that all the sticks work just fine the problem is else where.

when it shows the loading bar sometimes its so dim i can barely see it. this makes me wondering if maybe the power supply in her pc isnt powerful enough. its a 720 watt i believe. ive never seen it do this before and i dont know what to do. for now i have the 4gb i gave her back in.

now about the timing. i noticed that and wondered if the 4gb is doing the same thing. it says that the 4gb is running at only 800mhz as well. they are all suppost to be 1066. how do i change that in the bios ? i found where i can change the tcl, trcd, trp, and tras... but then there is clock time or something like that. i can choose auto, 1, or 2.

then below that stuff is advanced timing with a lot more than just the tcl,trcd,trp, and tras..im confused now.

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I have 4 gb of those dominator sticks.

Have you upped the DRAM voltage to 2.1v? And are the timings set at 5-5-5-15.
They should be run at 2T. You may also want to run them at 667 initially instead of 800 to to see if you can boot all the way into vista.
 
im trying to figure out how to do that in the bios. right now.

my wifes pc has the ASUS p5n-e sli motherboard.

what is command per clock. in the manual it says:
sets the command timming
[auto] [1 clock] [2 clock]
 
i just set the memory to 5-5-5-15- 2.7t (volts)
but it still says 800mhz when it boots up...
 
i meant to put 2.17v. i put the bios back to default and put my wifes 4gb back in. still the 1066 4gb i gave her is running at 800mhz. i cant figure it out. i know how to change the timing and i done it but it didnt change the speed. it stays at 800 when i boot it up.

also i added the dominator fan. here is a pic of the ram when i first opened the box and the dom fan on my wifes pc.

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DimFilter said:
I have 4 gb of those dominator sticks.

Have you upped the DRAM voltage to 2.1v? And are the timings set at 5-5-5-15.
They should be run at 2T. You may also want to run them at 667 initially instead of 800 to to see if you can boot all the way into vista.
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how do i do any of that. i cant figure this out for nothing. the options dont say exactly what your saying. i cant get the timing changed but the mhz stays and im not sure about the voltage
 
No offense but this is exactly why people with disposable incomes, but know very little about a pc should buy a dell. For starters, you say you won't oc the processor, then why buy a $1000 cpu when you can get the same if not better performance out of a $350-$450 cpu? The whole point of an "extreme" processor is the fact that the multiplier is unlocked, so that you can over clock it and get "extreme" performance out of it.

As many have stated over clocking a cpu does not mean that you will degrade the life of the cpu, not when it was specifically designed and sold for that purpose.

You are experiencing 2 problems here, almost all motherboards for some reason when you buy 1066 ram or higher reset the speed to 800, mainly because that is what the ram originally was, 800, factory overclocked to 1066. That is the first problem, the motherboard is misreading the ram.

A simple google search typing in your motherboard spec and bios brings me to this decent informative page, where if you scroll down to the pictures, and see the bios pages, you will see the memory page, where you will need to unlink the ram and manually set the speed to 1066.

Also make sure the ram volts are set to the manufacturers rated voltage.

Your second problem, is that Vista is not recognizing the full 8 GB of ram, take out 2 of the sticks of the ram, boot into Vista, and get this update. Once it is installed reboot fully to Vista, then shutdown, and reinsert the other 2 sticks of ram, and you should be good to go.

I don't mean to sound harsh, I just get a bit jealous when I see people buy things that I can't, but then don't utilize them to even a tenth of their potential.

I was skeptical about overclocking as well, as I can not afford to replace components if I damage something, but after weeks of research and reading up, and testing out myself, I am quite happy with the results. The best thing to take into consideration, your Intel cpu comes with a warranty (I believe 3 years on yours in particular), and as long as you stay within the manufacturers specs for voltage, you are fine, even if it gets "fried", they will replace it at no charge. I believe the max VID is 1.350 if memory serves me.

Like others said you would be surprised at the overclock you can get at stock volts, with that cpu and board combo, just do some looking around, and the performance improvements will be quite noticeable.
 
My father died when i was only 3 years old and he left me some money so i bought the PC and a few other things. I never knew him, all i have is photos.

i WISH i had disposable income. the ram and the other stuff I'm buy now I'm paying for with the refund from the Samsung 305t monitor that went out. I bought the BenQ fp241vw instead, which I'm waiting on right now to be delivered any second.

so you see i cant afford to replace anything either. thats why i don't want to overclock because I'm afraid of damaging something and not being able to replace it.

i did do everything you suggested up there already except the vista update. i had already read the motherboard manual and searched online. i switch to unlinked and did 5-5-5-15-volts. yet it still said 800mhz and wouldn't boot to vista. for now i have her 4gb back in. when i get my coolant and Benq FP241vw today ill try it out in my PC where its actually going and see if it works.
 
If you scroll down to the pictures of the bios settings, the fourth and sixth ones show your memory settings. You have to not only unlink it but manually change the Mhz from 800 to 1066. The timings you set should be fine, check the volts though as well, that is the 18th picture (again the bios pictures not the mobo pictures).

Well it is ok to over clock it as long as you do not exceed the rated manufactures spec voltage. So play around with it, you would be surprised how much you can gain just on stock voltages. Increasing the FSB will not damage the cpu, increasing the volts past a certain point without adequate cooling will.

Try lowering your cpu multiplier to the lowest setting, then increase the FSB until you get your first blue screen, that will find your FSB on stock voltage limits. Then increase the multiplier until you get that BSOD again. That will be the limit on stock volts. With that 1066 memory, you should have quite a bit of headroom to oc your cpu, especially since you have an extreme cpu that has an unlocked multiplier.

Once you start playing with it, you will build your confidence, and want to start pushing it...I did. I did make sure however to stay within the spec voltage, so if anything did happen to the cpu, it would be replaced at no cost to me.

The update for Vista is most likely causing the OS not to see the full 8GB.

cheers


Also forgot to mention to make sure you have the latest bios updates as well, always important...
 
Mike Clements said:
The best idea is to check with the memory maker. They test more memory than MOBO makers do as memory QVLs from MOBO makers are typically very incomplete.
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Mr. Memory Maker,

:)

Let's say I want 8GB (total) of ram, running in all 4 slots ("4up").

Let's say I want to use a Q6600 processor, and overclock this processor.

Then, let's say I want to use an Asus P5Q series motherboard to it.

Does Corsair make some memory that will allow this? Do certain sticks of memory put less stress on the motherboard when running in 4up, because they are double or single sided?***

Thank you for your help, in advance. Also, if anyone reading this wants to chime in, then great.

I know filling all the banks can sometimes be hard to overclock with, and I would like to do it.

***edit: yes, this seems to be correct.

edit again:

Here's an example for you. Let's say I buy two sets of this ram (for a total of 8GB) because it is listed on the Asus P5Q-Pro's QVL as working in 4up at DDR2-800.

Because the Q6600 has a 9x multiplier, I could overclock to DDR2-800 (400fsb, right) for a 3.6ghz result, and the ram would still be in spec. So.... there shouldn't be a problem running 4up while overclocking like this. (according to the QVL at least...) As far as the memory goes I guess... but I guess it's the memory controller I should worry about. Hmm.

The reason I ask this stuff, is because I'm still on a P4 system, and I have never filled all the banks of a dual-channel motherboard before, and then overclocked it.
 
thanks a lot for the help. i ran into a few problems while changing my liquid coolant,tubing, etc. so im trying to resolve that now.
 
TOOL1075 said:
Mr. Memory Maker,

:)

Let's say I want 8GB (total) of ram, running in all 4 slots ("4up").

Let's say I want to use a Q6600 processor, and overclock this processor.

Then, let's say I want to use an Asus P5Q series motherboard to it.

Does Corsair make some memory that will allow this? Do certain sticks of memory put less stress on the motherboard when running in 4up, because they are double or single sided?***

Thank you for your help, in advance. Also, if anyone reading this wants to chime in, then great.

I know filling all the banks can sometimes be hard to overclock with, and I would like to do it.

***edit: yes, this seems to be correct.

edit again:
Because the Q6600 has a 9x multiplier, I could overclock to DDR2-800 (400fsb, right) for a 3.6ghz result, and the ram would still be in spec. So.... there shouldn't be a problem running 4up while overclocking like this. (according to the QVL at least...) As far as the memory goes I guess... but I guess it's the memory controller I should worry about. Hmm.

The reason I ask this stuff, is because I'm still on a P4 system, and I have never filled all the banks of a dual-channel motherboard before, and then overclocked it.
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From what I have seen so far, the P45 boards should easily run 4 up at DDR-800. So, yes you should be able to take a Q6600 to 3.6 without issue assuming the CPU is up to it.

But, I would also add that you should only do this if you actually "need" 8gb of RAM. Otherwise, it's not worth the potential issues and OCing limitations.
 
thanks everyone for the help. ive got my pc up and running now. i put the 8gb and it worked like a charm. its running at 800mhz but im going to leave it for the time being.

wow does it make it smooth! i dont know what the hell some of you where talking about not needing or wanting 8gb. so far ive played UT3 and Grid and it runs super fast at 1920x1200 res with all settings on max. photoshop is also almost twice as fast. this is great !!
 
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