Best 30' panel?

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joeynuggetz

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I was thinking of a 24inch panel for gaming but now I'm thinking of a 30 incher. I was looking at the samsung based on the review from that Trusted review site. It got better reviews than the Dell. I just got an unexpected bump in my budget so I'm thinking SLI'ing 2 8800gtx's so I should be good. What say ye?
 
it got a better review on trustedreviews, but I prefer to trust behardware. (trustedreviews doesn't even bother to calibrate the displays, let alone any non subjective testing)
http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=36&mo1=177&p1=1761&ma2=88&ph=1
for some stats.

LP3065 = 3007wfp-hc exept for the 2 extra dvi inputs on the hp
Cinema 30'' older panel than the 2 above

Samsung vs the other 2 ..
http://www.behardware.com/articles/661-1/the-new-30-inch-monitors-dell-and-samsung.html
there still is the personal preference when looking at PVA or IPS screens, but the general public seems to be strongly pro IPS (including me) and for gaming the IPS monitors have less lag...

the search function will tell you more ^_~
 
Yeah, but I heard that if I go with the Dell that I'm not guaranteed that panel technology. I may end up with PVA...
 
i've preordered a 27.5 monitor myself after contemplating buying a 30"'er for about a year now.... u should consider buying one of those - really cheap and they seem to be really good judging from the consumer reviews available - I've ordered the hanns-G minitor btw - it really cheap in europe...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ryType=0&Pagesize=10&SelectedRating=-1&Page=2

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16824254026

http://reviews.compusa.com/2795/1354706/reviews.htm
 
I know they arent perfect - but no lcd panels on the market atm are... im personally w8ing for a perfect monitor to arrive in 3-4 years (low power consumption, perfect response time and colors) - until ten im setteling with an ok TN panel - no point in spending big money on an imperferfect product I think - then again i dont have any money - thats properly why i have that mindset
 
In 3-4 years there'll probably be some great monitors, but in 6-8 years there'll be even better ones and wow 9-12 years... so you might be ending up always buying the crappiest shit out there in the respective product cycle. have fun.
 
Benny said:
In 3-4 years there'll probably be some great monitors, but in 6-8 years there'll be even better ones and wow 9-12 years... so you might be ending up always buying the crappiest shit out there in the respective product cycle. have fun.
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I don't think thats true.... in 3-4-5 years there should b monitors on the market that are reproducing colors and response time as good as the human eye can perceive it - and then the only thing to improve is power consumption.... ofc 3d-monitors and other new monitor technologies might be whats hot by then - making regular monitors obsolete, but im talking regular displays
 
sure the "near" OLEDs/FEDs will produce a picture equal or better to a CRT. but that only the beginning we're not even close to the resolution the human eye can perceive at monitor viewing distance. There'll definitely be obvious improvements after the 3-4 years, the human eye is quite capable and shouldn't be mesured by the standards of todays monitors, and even if it isn't the display quality there's always the possibility of producing bigger displays at a lower price...
But that's not the point, it's not about future displays and I respect your money saving decision. It's about what we wish to live with until these monitors come to market.
A 28'' TN monitor simply isn't a reasonable alternative to a 30'' IPS display if your looking for a good monitor, and the question starting the thread wasn't about cheaper, but quality wise superior alternatives to the 30'' sammy.

back on topic:
joeynuggetz, consider adding a calibration device to your shopping list as all 30'' lag a proper internal image control.
 
joeynuggetz said:
I was thinking of a 24inch panel for gaming but now I'm thinking of a 30 incher. I was looking at the samsung based on the review from that Trusted review site.
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Don't rely on trustedreviews, their reviews are very superficial. It's better as a source of news for upcoming products.

Since you're gaming I'd ignore the Samsung due it having higher lag. Right now it's a straight choice between Apple, Dell & HP 30" displays. For me the Dell wins by virtue of being cheaper as picture quality is the same. The HP only adds extra DVI sockets - but they're only useful for extra PCs, no use trying to connect a games console as the resolutions aren't supported. Edit: Is the Apple 30" wide colour gamut? If it isn't then it may actually be better for gaming.

NEC & EIZO are bringing 30" displays to market, but expect both to have input lag due to LUTs & accurate colour processing

New 30" LG-Philips panels have been listed on sites like this:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news.htm#lg.philips_07
So maybe there will a refresh of Dell, Apple & HP soon. Couldn't guess when or if that will happen though

Final alternative if you want high quality is to investigate some of the medical displays by Barco, Planar & EIZO, but expect these to start at prices 7-8x higher the normal IT monitors.

SLI 8800GTX will be pretty nice & when you start struggling for frame rate the nvidia drivers will let you scale 1920x1200 (or other resolutions) to 2560x1600
 
IanM said:
Is the Apple 30" wide colour gamut? If it isn't then it may actually be better for gaming.
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No, the Apple 30" is using a previous generation of IPS Panel, being the equivalent of the Dell 3007wfp (Non-HC)

Those panels do not have the wide gamut stuff but suffer greater brightness difference accross the panel than newer ones (up to 50% on some)
http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools

I guess It depends for what you're gonna use it for.

-Tarc
 
joeynuggetz said:
I was thinking of a 24inch panel for gaming but now I'm thinking of a 30 incher. I was looking at the samsung based on the review from that Trusted review site. It got better reviews than the Dell. I just got an unexpected bump in my budget so I'm thinking SLI'ing 2 8800gtx's so I should be good. What say ye?
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I say make sure to contact your local nuclear power plant to send a direct line into your pc for power.
 
Ok so I just ordered the 30' Dell but I read an article in maximum pc that even tho this panel has a native resolution higher than hd, the monitor will downscale any hidef signals down to 1600x800 or something like that. Is this true?
 
joeynuggetz said:
Ok so I just ordered the 30' Dell but I read an article in maximum pc that even tho this panel has a native resolution higher than hd, the monitor will downscale any hidef signals down to 1600x800 or something like that. Is this true?
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The monitor, doesn't take any resolution other than 1280x800 and 2560x1600 so your videocard will do the scaling, and it won't downscale HD unless you tell it to.
The article i know only mentioned their rig to be to slow to play @ 2560x1600 so they changed the res to some odd 1600x900 so it will be scaled to fill the picture.. (16:9 the only full screen resolution on a 16:10 monitor, .. don't trust print media reviews... ¬_¬;...)
 
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